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Topping E70 Stereo DAC Review

Rate this DAC:

  • 1. Poor (headless panther)

    Votes: 8 2.2%
  • 2. Not terrible (postman panther)

    Votes: 7 2.0%
  • 3. Fine (happy panther)

    Votes: 43 12.0%
  • 4. Great (golfing panther)

    Votes: 299 83.8%

  • Total voters
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funnychap

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The E70 is totally transparent to the source. If the Denafrips is totally transparent to the source, the signal exiting will be identical to the E70 (any differences well beyond the threshold of human hearing).

Give it your best shot and come back with alot of graphs and data to support any perceived differences you think you've discovered.
lol, I don't care about measurements, my ears tell me what sounds good.
 

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That's why I said it's ugly. Possibly, the only difference and the price, of course :)
You really need to tone down the negativity. Reread what I've already posted as improvements in the new Denafrips Ares II 12th anniversary.
 

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But none of you answered the most important question above: "Does it work better from a distance or from an acute angle?" I don't care much about remote weight but it's quite annoying targeting device to be able to change the source.
No, it doesn't. Which was quite a disappointment. It's basically the same el-cheapo remote in a more heavy and clunky case.
 

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it's infra-red isn't it?

i don't know what miracles of transmission you expect from that sort of frequency, but you are likely going to be as disappointed with anything of that genre
 

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it's infra-red isn't it?

i don't know what miracles of transmission you expect from that sort of frequency, but you are likely going to be as disappointed with anything of that genre
Well, over the years I had many, many remote controls that have substantial better performance than the Topping ones. All "in that genre" (i.e. IR). Just of better quality.
 

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Well, over the years I had many, many remote controls that have substantial better performance than the Topping ones. All "in that genre" (i.e. IR). Just of better quality.
seems i have had nothing but shit ones previously then, as the topping is the best example i have used

if you want some major disappointment, you can come and try the nad d3020 remote... and i use the word "try" in the sense that it will be an attempt to have the nad respond to your implied wishes at a distance beyond a metre so, even if you have the aim of a sniper
 

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No, it doesn't. Which was quite a disappointment. It's basically the same el-cheapo remote in a more heavy and clunky case.

Clunkier than your plastic TV remote which is 6 times bigger? What are you expecting in a $25 remote? You can tell all they did from the layout was transport the same guts to a metal case. It's always a case by case result for users, but for me, it's a great and inexpensive upgrade and works well.
 

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Clunkier than your plastic TV remote which is 6 times bigger? What are you expecting in a $25 remote? You can tell all they did from the layout was transport the same guts to a metal case. It's always a case by case result for users, but for me, it's a great and inexpensive upgrade and works well.
Whoa! It sounds like you're the designer of this thing! ;-) It's not the size that makes it clunky. It's the fact that this RC is just a brick. With about the same weight too. Even for $25 it could have looked like what we consider a remote control in 2023.
Anyway, it does what it should do. Not better than the included RC. Not worse either.
 

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It's a nicer remote IMO and not a bank breaker. I am completely satisfied with mine. Metal beats plastic everyday in my domain for a product like this.

IMO these should be included with Topping's higher end offerings.
 

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maybe a project to eviscerate the topping provided one and transplant its entrails in a bespoke machined case ?

we all know that will make it work better, just like buying a denafrips will make your music sound better :)
 

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Maybe problem is in IR receiver sensitivity on the E70. Would be nice if someone has universal remote, which works great with, for example TV, and test with Topping.

Btw, Nvidia Shield has a great controller. It uses BT, works from any angle, another room, including restroom :D Backlight is turning on when you pick it up and has a great feature used to find it if it's lost somewhere. Shield can make it beeping :)
 

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Hi,
How does it count?
Which filter is safe and does not cut the bandwidth for all DSD?
Is number 3 enough?
 

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works from any angle, another room, including restroom :D
Don't forget to wipe. I have a universal IR remote. It is not an outstanding unit like Logitech, but it has a much greater range and operating angle. Works noticeably better than Topping. Topping must be aimed at the device. Maybe a poor quality diode, low power and angle
 

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I had some time yesterday and decided to take apart the remote and see if anything can be done. There is a small hole under the battery cover, use a screwdriver to find a small clip to release the two pieces of the remote from each other. Once you see a gap use a (valid :D) credit card to gently go around and separate the remote.

As expected, nothing much to find inside. Simplest and cheapest as possible. However, by default the diode is quite inside, only the tip is visible and able to transmit. I made a hole a bit wider with a small Swiss knife, pushed the diode forward (pins are long enough), assembled everything back and now it's working better. Previously I had to get closer to be able to change the input. Now from the same distance, it's changing without problem. I still have to point remote towards the DAC, though.
 

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My most excellent SS listening station. I am impressed with how the look ended up. HE6se V2 is perfect whether using 5V or 4V. A90 never needs high gain. If the A90 goes kaput, A70 Pro will take its' place.

The Eagles Hotel California MoFi DSD and Dire Straits Brothers in Arms MoFi DSD are nothing short of jaw dropping. Really nice mastering.

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[…]

I wouldn't buy anything that doesn't render Tidal.

Personality, no one’s yet put together a convincing argument as to why, and neither can I hear it when comparing it to streaming bitperfect PCM from my own library
 
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