You persuaded meWhat's DoP?![]()
You persuaded meWhat's DoP?![]()
I can, but i didn't come up with it, many websites describe it and cover it with this image:
https://futureaudiophile.com/how-chi-fi-is-re-energizing-the-audiophile-hobby/
Not derogatory but i do shop thereBoth the E70 and E70 Velvet support DoP (DSD over PCM) over USB.
E70:
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E70 Velvet:
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I prefer Native anyway.
Martin
Also - can we stop using the term Chifi or Chi-Fi? It's is derogatory and has no place in these forums.
Not derogatory but i do shop there
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Are they all shamed by their origin? Or should they be proud? Or should they profile themself as reliable, affordable, high quality, etc?
Even though I have DAC SMSL and Topping myself, it is an art of compromise that I agreed to.People are just too sensitive nowadays. Everything can be considered as derogating. Depends on the context. In this case, Chi-Fi covers all vendors originating from China. Are they all shamed by their origin? Or should they be proud? Or should they profile themself as reliable, affordable, high quality, etc?
Tricky thing saying something "is" something. It's a totally subjective comparison. "This turntable sounds great". For the money, and compared to other turntables you've heard, maybe. "This food is spicy". Call that spicy? Not really. Maybe if you've not eaten much spicy food. "Chi-fi is offensive". No it's not. Not to me, anyway, and even when people are railing against Chinese audio equipment here they tend to use the full word. But if the owner of this site says it's offensive to him then out of politeness and respect for all he puts into this site it seems to me that not using the term here is the right thing to do.Grant Fidelity, one of the oldest and largest North American sellers of Chinese audio equipment, even uses the term - and Rachel, the owner, is Chinese.
Still, I’ve been told it was derogatory and I have stopped using it myself.
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Chi-Fi in the Time of Self-Righteous Indignation
Chi-fi has rather strangely become part of the communal lexicon and we think folks need to rethink that entire practice.www.ecoustics.com
Martin
this article is not authoritative, it does not address all issues.Grant Fidelity, one of the oldest and largest North American sellers of Chinese audio equipment, even uses the term - and Rachel, the owner, is Chinese.
Still, I’ve been told it was derogatory and I have stopped using it myself.
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Chi-Fi in the Time of Self-Righteous Indignation
Chi-fi has rather strangely become part of the communal lexicon and we think folks need to rethink that entire practice.www.ecoustics.com
Martin
Let's get back to the topic. The tests start.
I already know a lot
I don't know if I know everything
but i know a lot
I'll sum it up like this @aka_Z saved money and most of all time.
If there is a difference and there is a difference, max 0.3%
I will not bring anything new to the discussion than what is described in the summary below
My summary is that velvet returns as quickly as it arrived. If it was a difference of $30 and not $120 as it is in my country, maybe I would analyze the differences of 0.3% for sound longer. Now I'm wasting my life and time.![]()
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In addition, the Velvet does not have a filter menu for DSD as stated here and does not have the Jitter correction that the regular e70 got with firmware v1.04
I'm returning Velvet tomorrow or after the weekend
I'm reporting what I've observed, not stating anythingWhat makes you believe the E70V needed “… the Jitter correction that the regular e70 got with firmware v1.04.”? They do not both use the same jitter management…