Topping E50 II DAC is up on the Topping Store

[r-36m2]

Hello!
Let me ask if anyone has had this experience.
Will I be able to hear a difference in sound between the Topping E50 II and the E70 Velvet?
In other words, how is the E70 V better than the E50 II?
I'll be listening through the 3e-audio A5se or Topping PA5 II amplifier.
Thank you!

 

[Bleib]

Hello!
Let me ask if anyone has had this experience.
Will I be able to hear a difference in sound between the Topping E50 II and the E70 Velvet?
In other words, how is the E70 V better than the E50 II?
I'll be listening through the 3e-audio A5se or Topping PA5 II amplifier.
Thank you!

Shouldn't hear any difference. The limitations will be the recordings, your hearing, your room and your speakers
The only reason to get E50 II is for PEQ

 

[Pausi]

Shouldn't hear any difference. The limitations will be the recordings, your hearing, your room and your speakers
The only reason to get E50 II is for PEQ

Agree. I had the E70 V. Can’t hear any difference. Changed to E50 II because of high output voltage which is very nice if you plan to use a Purifi class D power amplifier module in the future.

 

[Bleib]

Agree. I had the E70 V. Can’t hear any difference. Changed to E50 II because of high output voltage which is very nice if you plan to use a Purifi class D power amplifier module in the future.

Yes, that too is a rather unique feature about it. I like the size as well.

 

[Pausi]

It’s the perfect black box DAC. Set it and forget it.

 

[Bleib]

It’s the perfect black box DAC. Set it and forget it.

Is there a 4 volt mode built in for compatibility with "older" units?

 

[Pausi]

Yes. Both 2 and 4 Vrms for unbalanced and balanced output.

 

[r-36m2]

Shouldn't hear any difference. The limitations will be the recordings, your hearing, your room and your speakers
The only reason to get E50 II is for PEQ

What?
The dream of hearing a delicate velvet sound was shattered by heartless engineers who listen only to numbers and graphs!
But what about the music? What about the air, the soundstage, the volume, the engagement, what about the feeling of colorful velvet pieces touching the tips of your ears?
After all, velvet sound costs twice as much! Surely it can't be that simple?

 

[BeeKay]

What?
The dream of hearing a delicate velvet sound was shattered by heartless engineers who listen only to numbers and graphs!
But what about the music? What about the air, the soundstage, the volume, the engagement, what about the feeling of colorful velvet pieces touching the tips of your ears?
After all, velvet sound costs twice as much! Surely it can't be that simple?

Pace, rhythm, holographic imaging, foot tapping. All in that small box!

Unless you don’t have a high resolving system.

- it’s PEQ what’s tempting

 

[hu.go]

- it’s PEQ what’s tempting

I think that having PEQ for implementation in digital domain is a great feature in a DAC device .
Never expected a product, in that price range, could include separated L/R 10 bands PEQ.

 

[Bleib]

Yes. Both 2 and 4 Vrms for unbalanced and balanced output.

So, how do you set it to 4v? It's certainly not clear from the manual

 

[Pausi]

It’s set default to U-L meaning low. You have to change it to U-H to get 11.3 Vrms output.
You can find all the output levels here in the spec-sheet: https://www.toppingaudio.com/product-item/e50-ii?tab=specs

 

[DavidEdwinAston]

Forgive this dumb question please. Should my Qutest go belly up, this product will easily replace it, at a fifth of the cost?

 

[Bleib]

It’s set default to U-L meaning low. You have to change it to U-H to get 11.3 Vrms output.
You can find all the output levels here in the spec-sheet: https://www.toppingaudio.com/product-item/e50-ii?tab=specs

But U-L means 5.2v right?

 

[Pausi]

As per the specifications:
Balanced out U/L: 5.3v
RCA/Singel ended U/L: 2.6v

 

[hu.go]

@amirm
Do you have a plan with a technical test and review of the Topping E50II with some measurements?
That's will be great and much appreciated!

 

[Krillin]

Hello!
Let me ask if anyone has had this experience.
Will I be able to hear a difference in sound between the Topping E50 II and the E70 Velvet?
In other words, how is the E70 V better than the E50 II?
I'll be listening through the 3e-audio A5se or Topping PA5 II amplifier.
Thank you!

I’ve owned the Gustard X26 Pro, Topping DX3 Pro, and Topping E50 II. Going by the measurements, they’re all transparent DACs and, in normal use, they sound essentially the same to me.

After extended listening and some careful A/B testing with the same headphone amp—plus cross-checking against Equalizer APO—I’m satisfied the E50 II’s PEQ is behaving as expected.

One feature I’d love to see in a future DAC is the ability to load convolution filters for headphone EQ directly onto the device. I’m just not sure how practical that is on typical DAC hardware yet (processing power/latency, etc.).

 

[hu.go]

After extended listening and some careful A/B testing with the same headphone amp—plus cross-checking against Equalizer APO—I’m satisfied the E50 II’s PEQ is behaving as expected.

Good news and good to know.
From a practical side your feedback is confirming that the PEQ feature is a positive enhancement of previous E50. This is the only reason about why I would like to switch and upgrade my E50 for the E50II... PEQ capabilities.

 

[Lambo1985]

Good news and good to know.
From a practical side your feedback is confirming that the PEQ feature is a positive enhancement of previous E50. This is the only reason about why I would like to switch and upgrade my E50 for the E50II... PEQ capabilities.

Same here. For me, the E50 was as close to perfect of a DAC as I needed. PEQ was the only thing really missing (EQ, set and forget, for speakers), and maybe Bluetooth as an extra input. Now, with those features, as well as USB-C for input and power, its like "Yeah. This is the one". - As long as there is no noticeble hit/penalty for engaging PEQ, this may be the perfect DAC for me.

 

[hu.go]

As long as there is no noticeble hit/penalty for engaging PEQ, this may be the perfect DAC for me.

The same for me while in my system I only use digital inputs. A digital device with PEQ capabilities at a low price is, for me, the way to go.
I just want to have more information about PEQ performance and to know if the Eq processing gave some penalty.