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Topping E30 II Lite DAC review and measurements

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    Votes: 2 2.5%
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    Votes: 4 5.0%
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    Votes: 21 26.3%
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Rja4000

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in the end sinad/thd vs frequency is a much more interesting test than a simple sinad at 1khz and shows the whole limit of this "so limited" measurement ... a pity that it is similarly considered just because it can give "a number" :(

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Multitone also gives you that (and is more easily readable, IMO).

The SINAD number is, as @amirm repeated several times, an indicator of good engineering, and, therefore, a good predictor of good overall performance.
As is the case here.
 

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Multitone also gives you that (and is more easily readable, IMO).:confused:

The SINAD number is, as @amirm repeated several times, an indicator of good engineering, and, therefore, a good predictor of good overall performance.
As is the case here.
I know well for multitones .. thank you pkanes !
I just point out that the approach at just 1khz is extremely limited, or in the end practically irrelevant..the proof...etc

there is nothing of such a rigorous approach, an observation on just a plot...

ps I just wanted to know if you could do this type of sweep with the different filters in this specific case..besides amirm does it too... ;-)
just surprising not to stay in db...usual observation on "asr" and therefore better understand here...
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Fantastic work and great DAC (at this price is really a stunning equipment). Thanx-X man for this your effort, you replicate Amir's graphs at the best.
 

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Two more questions. What output IC does topping e30 II lite use ? Is it a lm4562 or Opa1612 ?

Can you show a picture of the supplied remote ? Is it the same as for e30 II , or is it cheaper and smaller ?
 
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I've added the details for each single measurement at the end of the second post
thank you for your rigor ;-)
(ps I maintain that the thd/thd-n/sinad vs frequency sweep is much more more interesting than a simple 1khz.. na.. ;-) who can now as it is expected by many to be a real "trompe l'oeil"... as many situations of this kind can be a huge bias...)
 

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Here is a review and measurements of the recent


Filters comparison

NB: Black plot is F6
It would have been "better" to set the green vertical line at fs/2 i.e. 22,05 kHz.

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If this isn’t proof that DACs are a solved problem at all price levels, then I don’t know what is. Maybe a dongle with this level of performance would convince naysayers that it’s not necessary to spend big buck on DACs.
 

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If this isn’t proof that DACs are a solved problem at all price levels, then I don’t know what is. Maybe a dongle with this level of performance would convince naysayers that it’s not necessary to spend big buck on DACs.
Like this?
 

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Like this?
Not exactly. I was thinking about something more like the Apple and Google dongles for $9.00. If dongles in that price class reached this level of performance, then the naysayers would have to shut up.
 
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Not exactly. I was thinking about something more like the Apple and Google dongles for $9.00. If dongles in that price class reached this level of performance, then the naysayers would have to shut up.
I mean already for $90 it shows that DAC's don't need to be expensive to be good.
 
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