Topping E30 II Lite DAC review and measurements

[antcollinet]

Could somebody explain the phrase "Jitter is unaudible"

If we look into SINAD noise - it is also -100 db and we can say unaudible, but nobody want DAC with -100

Is Jitter the same "inaudible" as noise or distortion or the Jitter has another nature?

I like the look of E30II Lite and don't want to buy SMSL SU1 , but I use only Toslink. Should I buy SMSL or not?

Jitter causes distortion.

Jitter is typicaly rejected by DACs to well below the level of audibility. This is true also of the E30II dac. You can buy it without worrying about audible issues from jitter.

but nobody want DAC with -100

Personally I don't care - I am happy with anything better than -90 - I know I have no chance of hearing that. Of course - if there is one with better SINAD with all the features I need and not costing any more - then I'll get the one with higher Sinad - but I don't need it.

 

[trevor_bartram]

Could somebody explain the phrase "Jitter is unaudible"

If we look into SINAD noise - it is also -100 db and we can say unaudible, but nobody want DAC with -100

Is Jitter the same "inaudible" as noise or distortion or the Jitter has another nature?

I like the look of E30II Lite and don't want to buy SMSL SU1 , but I use only Toslink. Should I buy SMSL or not?

I went from a Schiit Modi 3 to the E30 Lite because: adjustability, remote, display & reputation of the E30. The Schitt sounded fine however the E30 Lite's filters allow fine tuning of the sound. I purchased the E30 Lite on a Black Friday for $80, a bargain.

 

[modus2000]

I went from a Schiit Modi 3 to the E30 Lite because: adjustability, remote, display & reputation of the E30. The Schitt sounded fine however the E30 Lite's filters allow fine tuning of the sound. I purchased the E30 Lite on a Black Friday for $80, a bargain.

Do you hear difference in filters? Filters in interesting for me especialy those who emulate NOS DAC.
But E30 / II / Lite have imperfection in Jitter measurement for Toslink while SMSL SU1 looks perfect on Tosling

 

[trevor_bartram]

Do you hear difference in filters? Filters in interesting for me especialy those who emulate NOS DAC.
But E30 / II / Lite have imperfection in Jitter measurement for Toslink while SMSL SU1 looks perfect on Tosling

I slight difference between the fastest & slowest filters. I prefer the slowest. What do these levels of jitter sound like? I believe you'd have to compare these two units (with matching filters etc) to determine that.

 

[antcollinet]

What do these levels of jitter sound like?

Inaudible.

See:

What does jitter ACTUALLY sound like? (jitter test tracks)

The following website has some simulated jitter test tracks: What does jitter ACTUALLY sound like? There are seven versions of each sample. Three have periodic jitter, three have random jitter, and one is the original - untouched. In the samples we have 2µs (microseconds), 4µs, 8µs, 16µs...

www.audiosciencereview.com

 

[modus2000]

See:

Thank you! Finally I bought SMSL SU-1, now I'm testing it )))