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Topping E2x2 Audio Interface Review

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How would you compare the e2x2 to the DX5 in terms of DAC / Amp specs / power / resolution / neutrality. Are they pretty much the same? I can see the E2x2 actually beats the DX5 for headphone signal to noise ratio but i'm not sure about anything else. I'm looking for balanced outputs for studio monitors and a great headphone DAC amp and don't particularly need the mic/line inputs as I have an RME for my main studio but perhaps they could come in handy sometime. I'm more focused on getting the best sound I can. Is there a latency difference using USB?
 
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How would you compare the e2x2 to the DX5 in terms of DAC / Amp specs / power / resolution / neutrality. Are they pretty much the same? I can see the E2x2 actually beats the DX5 for headphone signal to noise ratio but i'm not sure about anything else. I'm looking for balanced outputs for studio monitors and a great headphone DAC amp and don't particularly need the mic/line inputs as I have an RME for my main studio but perhaps they could come in handy sometime. I'm more focused on getting the best sound I can. Is there a latency difference using USB?
I don’t have the DX5, but I recently purchased the E1x2 OTG (see my post below). Comparing it to my Khadas Tone Board ($69 DAC), I find the KTB delivers noticeably fuller, richer, and less harsh (esp for vocal) sound. Granted sound can be very subjective, unless i have done something wrong, the E1x2 (DAC wise identical to the E2x2) has been disappointing in terms of DAC output quality.
 
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I don’t have the DX5, but I recently purchased the E1x2 OTG (see my post below). Comparing it to my Khadas Tone Board ($69 DAC), I find the KTB delivers noticeably fuller, richer, and less harsh (esp for vocal) sound. Granted sound can be very subjective, unless i have done something wrong, the E1x2 (DAC wise identical to the E2x2) has been disappointing in terms of DAC output quality.
Thanks for your input. I seems that the E2x2 does measure pretty average on the DAC. I'm looking for something neutral and analytical for music production rather than colored or hi-fi. I got an as new customer return with warranty for £230 instead of £450 - I don't think I can go wrong with that.
 
Hi!

Big question for you guys! I'm a sound designer and my current setup is:

-Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 (2nd gen)
- Byedynamic DT770 pro (250Ω)
- a cheap portable headphone amplifier from ESYNic (costs around 30€).

Lately, I wanted to resell my current audio interface and I can't decide between a Topping E4x4 and an Audient id14 MKII. The topping option is appealing because of the excellent HP amp (I mainly work on headphones), but, do you think this will still be much better than the combo Audient id14 MKII + my current amplifier? I never had problems with my ESYNic, I can't hear any background noise and I can reach high levels of gain with it. Do you still think that the Topping E4x4 would be a much better option for me?
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As an owner of the Topping e4x4 and a user of a Presonus interface and a scarlett and saffire 56 from Focusrite. Buy the Topping if you have not already
 
I've bought Topping E2X2 OTG after reading forums and a few youtube reviews, so I decided to share my experience as well. I prefer no nonsense approach, do not like to overspend, just wanted the device which seems to be objectively transparent for headphones & speakers. Many people say these days DACs are quite similar or almost the same, I think the chipsets may be the same, but they are just a part of whole design which may affect the sound.

So here are my 2 cents for less pro-oriented consumers:
- tested this using Sennheiser HD600, HD560S, 490 PRO and Hifiman XS. I generally prefer hard hitting and revealing 560S.
- Topping stands out in low-mid frequency area, it sounds thicker and a bit clearer than DAC dongles, drums sound fuller (not bassier, but have more body), this part is really easy to hear
- generally I would say the tone is kind of thick-flat-smooth and I feel like it is compressed, but it may be just a perception due to flat eq
- most of other cheap DAC dongles I have, including praised Apple dongle, sound more open, they have more treble/air and harder/clearer bass, with some scoop in low mids (again, drums do not sound as thick as on Topping)
- my approach was: if the device is truly transparent, I will just EQ it to get whatever I want, but frankly speaking, after switching and trying devices many times using many songs (I find this part to be important), I just came to conclusion I prefer cheap DAC sound and filling low-mid gap seems to be easier than trying to make Topping more lively/open sounding
- my biggest problem is the lack of punch, I suspect it may be just a perception due to either boosted low mids or cuts in cheap dac dongles, assuming Topping is the perfect one, some of them just hit harder, which is useful in dense metal mixes imho. Even with boosted bass I feel like it is decaying longer, maybe it is just a perception, but that's what I feel

Apple dac sounded quite close to Topping, with more punch in bass, but with a bit low-mid cut. Lacks volume
CX-PRO which is Graveaudio DA06 ? sounds very punchy, with quite clear bass, slightly boosted treble, good with Hifiman XS, with some Sennheisers can be a little bit harsh
Jcally JM6 Pro is slightly rounder/warmer, with still more dynamic but a bit boomy bass, sometimes it sounds good with Sennheisers
Venture Electronics ODO - dry/clean sounding, almost like reduced gain, also not too much volume, smooth treble (or not as sharp as the others), actually very similar to Topping in mid-treble, but lacks bass. In many songs I found it quite good to separate instruments, better separation than Topping, but I did not like the sound anyway, with Hifiman XS it is nice, as XS is slightly dark. Has more low mids than Apple Dac.
....and some others, but I didn't like them that much so I didn't test them as much and unfortunately I don't remember anymore what was the conclusion. Oh I recall ...that realtek was kind of cold/scooped/less punchy.

I had Focusrite Scarlett looong time ago so I cannot compare directly, but I think it was closer to these dongles rather than Topping.
Actually I've seen some yt comparison between Topping and Focusrite, and Topping sounded more open, this is what I liked, so I am quite confused, either that YT Focusrite model was different sounding than mine, or there are some Topping revisions.

So I kind of see why some people may not like it.
 

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A couple of questions:

1. Connecting E2x2 OTG to MacOS, does the volume control on Mac works?
2. Specifically I am thinking about using the S/PDIF output that comes with E2x2 OTG to connect to a digital active speaker. Will the Mac Volume control apply on S/PDIF output. Or the volume control on E2x2 OTG applies to S/PDIF? Or the volume control on the Control app applies on S/PDIF?

Background: I have bought a new pair of Neumann Speakers with S/PDIF input. I'd like use it. My thought is the following pure digital signal path:

Apple Music (Hi Rez) -> MacOS USB-C -> E2x2 OTG S/PDIF output -> Neumann S/PDIF input

In this path, I am not sure where to do the volume control. Any other suggested solutions?

My current setup is:

Apple Music -> MacOS USB-A -> Topping E50 (volume control is here) and analog line output -> Neumann analog input.

Thanks!
 
Sorry. I missed one background info. I need Mic input to use Neumann MA1 Room Correction. I figured since E2x2 OTG has SPDIF I could use it. Otherwise I probably will go for E2x2 for less and other brands such as Focusrite or Motu.

Once Room Correction is done. I could use a USB-SPDIF adapter. I would like to know how volume is controlled in that case. Maybe I could just use Mac System volume control for some brand?
 
Once Room Correction is done. I could use a USB-SPDIF adapter. I would like to know how volume is controlled in that case. Maybe I could just use Mac System volume control for some brand?
There are DDCs which support UAC2 hardware volume control, in which case you can use Mac system volume control even with SPDIF out.

One example is the SMSL PO100 Pro, see here:
It absolutely does. I had to double check, but all my measurements so far (still use the PO100 PRO today as S/PDIF tone generator) have been done with UAC2 enabled... ;)

There's also a chance that the cheaper, refreshed PO100 2024 supports UAC2 volume as well.

Con: SMSL customer support have stated that it doesn't.

Pro: My original PO100 supported UAC2 flawlessly out of the box, and SMSL support can be pretty clumsy at times, so I'm still hopeful :D

Also, FYI, the Native Instruments Komplete Audio 6 MK2 has been successfully used for MA1 calibration via SPDIF out:
So after a day of fruitless struggle with Voicemeter Banana trying to combine two interfaces into one, I purchased Native Instruments KA6MK2 and a simplest network switch(as the speakers don't work with internet router). The process went smooth once I spent extra 200$...
The whole thing works over SPDIF.
 
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Thanks for the information. It appears SMSL PO100 Pro is ideal. It has the clear UAC1/UAC2 switch. PO100 has no where mentioned the switch.

Now that we have taken care of the S/PDIF and related volume control, For MA1 room calibration, I assume I can use most common Audio Interface such as E2x2, Focusrite 2x2/Solo, Motu M2/M4, etc. I will look into further.
 
For MA1 room calibration, I assume I can use most common Audio Interface such as E2x2, Focusrite 2x2/Solo, Motu M2/M4, etc. I will look into further.
Yes, but also cheap 30€ solutions (with Phantompower) will work.
Like the Miditech Audiolink or the small "the t.bone MicPlug USB" Interface.

The cheapest one I've used with the MA1 is the Steinberg IXO12
But also all the other's should do fine
 
Yes, but also cheap 30€ solutions (with Phantompower) will work.
Like the Miditech Audiolink or the small "the t.bone MicPlug USB" Interface.

The cheapest one I've used with the MA1 is the Steinberg IXO12
But also all the other's should do fine
Great info. Thanks!
 
Thanks for the information. It appears SMSL PO100 Pro is ideal. It has the clear UAC1/UAC2 switch. PO100 has no where mentioned the switch.

Now that we have taken care of the S/PDIF and related volume control, For MA1 room calibration, I assume I can use most common Audio Interface such as E2x2, Focusrite 2x2/Solo, Motu M2/M4, etc. I will look into further.
It appears PO100 ships with UAC2 default. That should be fine with recent macOS. Now the main difference to me between PO100 and PO100 Pro is 24bit vs 32bit. Any thought on how the macOS volume control works and whether the bit width affects the resolution in theory and in practice?
 
Any thought on how the macOS volume control works
When used with USB DACs, macOS does not do any volume control signal processing itself.

Instead, it sends UAC2 commands to your DAC and lets it handle all the attenuation.

If the DAC lacks UAC2 volume support, macOS volume control is simply disabled.

Therefore, volume control transparency completely depends on the specific DAC.

Fwiw, updating the firmware of my 1st gen PO100 removed UAC2 volume support.

With both the original firmware and the updated firmware, my PO100 supported up to 32/384 input for some reason.
 
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When used with USB DACs, macOS does not do any volume control signal processing itself.

Instead, it sends UAC2 commands to your DAC and lets it handle all the attenuation.

If the DAC lacks UAC2 volume support, macOS volume control is simply disabled.

Therefore, volume control transparency completely depends on the specific DAC.

Fwiw, updating the firmware of my 1st gen PO100 removed UAC2 volume support.

With both the original firmware and the updated firmware, my PO100 supported up to 32/384 input for some reason.
I see. So to use macOS volume control, needs to run at UAC1. Potentially PO100 could run at 32 bit as well given the firmware update. I assume PO100 Pro could run at 32 bit as well at UAC1. If that is the case with 32 bit, no concern for macOS volume control as far as resolution goes, assuming 24 bit has slight concern?
 
I think I am off track of Topping E2x2 discussion. Sorry about it. I'll find the right thread to discuss.
 
So to use macOS volume control, needs to run at UAC1.
No. UAC1 will 100% disable macOS volume control.

UAC2 may also disable macOS volume control, if that feature is not implemented in firmware (e.g. PO100 post FW update).

Potentially PO100 could run at 32 bit as well given the firmware update.
PO100 gen 1 supported 32bit with the stock firmware:
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And still did after the firmware update:
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So it's not "potentially", but guaranteed.

I assume PO100 Pro could run at 32 bit as well at UAC1.
UAC1 is 24bit max.
 
No. UAC1 will 100% disable macOS volume control.

UAC2 may also disable macOS volume control, if that feature is not implemented in firmware (e.g. PO100 post FW update).
So in case of PO100, its default is UAC2, does macOS volume control work, just to be clear? Also PO100 Pro set to UAC2, does macOS work?
PO100 gen 1 supported 32bit with the stock firmware:
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And still did after the firmware update:
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So it's not "potentially", but guaranteed.


UAC1 is 24bit max.
 
So in case of PO100, its default is UAC2, does macOS volume control work, just to be clear?
When I bought one in 2022, default out-of-the-box firmware: Yes
After updating the firmware: No.

The PO100 then sold out and was not available all of 2023 and most of 2024.

Now, SMSL have refreshed the PO100 and it's available yet again as "PO100 2024".

I do not own this version and do not know how it behaves WRT UAC2 volume control and sample rate/bit depth support.

Also PO100 Pro set to UAC2, does macOS work?
With the PO100 Pro set to UAC2, you can control volume via macOS.
 
I am still intrigued by E2x2 OTG and its S/PDIF output as I am learning Audio Interfaces. Using Topping Professional Control Center, I can add S/PDIF as Output. My music play as a Mixer. Will I be able to adjust the Mixer fader and Output fader to adjust volume to S/PDIF output essentially as a digital volume? There maybe issues with Apple Music due to DRM? I am trying to understand how S/PDIF works and what are potential use cases. Thanks!
 
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