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Topping DX5II teardown

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@kevin gilmore has the circuit diagram posted here. Here's the full pcb board.


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First, the digital part


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You can see the bluetooth module on the top left.
On the middle right is the MS8422N, which is a chip to do routing, replacing LC89058W on earlier topping devices.
The signal then routes to the XMOS for final digital processing (EQ).

On the middle left is the ES9018 DAC. generating analog audio signal and then sending to the synwit processor below.
The Synwit chip will use onboard 12 bit ADC to convert that back to digital signal, and perform the FFT computation.
The FFT bin amplitude will be displayed on the screen as spectrum.

Right side is the I/V module and on the top is the output buffer for RCA using OPA1612.

The power supply is spread across the entire PCB. but below is the main one.

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Here're the step down converters that generate +/-15V from the switching power supply. There're also mosfets/bjts that control the on/off of the power rails on the top.
the lower right is the headphone protection circuit, by detecting the sum of 4 (2 ch x 2 phase) outputs, so if any transistor fries, it should be able to prevent your headphone from being destroyed.

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Here you see two I/V boards. Op Amps seem to be OPA1656.
I/V boards are dual sided and the front side can be seen as an improved op amp based on this patent.
once the circuit is simplified to equivalent circuit according to the patent,
what remains is a textbook I/V, identical to op1, r1, r2 and C1 in this article
The back side of the board is just the current source to support the differential pairs on the front side.

Below the I/V boards are the DAC chips and passive output stages.
Topping D50 III has the same board. but DX5 II has twice the I/V.
Each board computes the difference of L+/L-/R+/R- and Ref/2 per DAC.
D50III may omit the Ref/2 or just sum the L/R.

The middle part is particularly interesting. There're multiple transistor pairs. The output of those transistors goes to the I/V board's diff pair input.
So it's the reference voltage for the DAC chip. Based on the transistor counts I am pretty sure it's this patent.
D50 III has the same circuit, by the way. It's safe to assume both devices are designed at the similar time frame (2023).

On the right portion there's +/- 5.8V power rails (half of that shown in the photo), which power the op amps.

In kevin's diagram you can find the transistor pair model.

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Finally the tiny PCB here is the HP Amp's input and VAS. BJTs are power source, similar to the I/V. The transistor pairs are the input stage (differential pairs).
The input signal is from the bottom motherboard's resistor group, which has the I/V output and HP amp feedback signal, with gain control / mute switches.
The Op Amp (looks like OPA1612) is the VAS. It finally goes to the heat sink on the right (not in the photo) for output.

The output stage is nothing special but a classic class B amplifier. Thanks to the global feedback and tons of compensation it doesn't show any signs of crossover distortion.
The efficiency of the amplifier is also how Topping can cram so much power inside this small box.
 
Amazing, thanks!
 
(I don’t know what an I/V is though)
I/V converter, or current voltage converter, sometimes called Transimpedance Amplifier.
ES9039 has current output. So we need those converters to convert current into voltage.
The linked article has more information.
 
On the middle left is the ES9018 DAC. generating analog audio signal and then sending to the synwit processor below.
The Synwit chip will use onboard 12 bit ADC to convert that back to digital signal, and perform the FFT computation.
:oops:
What only one wouldn't do when one doesn't have a proper DSP at hand...
 
What only one wouldn't do when one doesn't have a proper DSP at hand...
topping is not experienced in DSP/software development so whenever possible they would avoid doing the hard work and turning to hardware solutions instead.
There're many factors to consider when doing via DSP in house here, such as DSD to PCM conversion, PCM downsampling and so on. You may also need more powerful ARM chip here. adding a DAC here may turn out to be cheaper
 
I/V converter, or current voltage converter, sometimes called Transimpedance Amplifier.
ES9039 has current output. So we need those converters to convert current into voltage.
The linked article has more information.
Thank you :)
 
Very interesting and well documented. Thanks!

Sad to see that Topping has adopted the despicable practice to erase the markings on the op amp cases.
 
Very interesting and well documented. Thanks!

Sad to see that Topping has adopted the despicable practice to erase the markings on the op amp cases.
They are pretty stupid in doing that, as this won't stop experienced engineers such as their competitors to know the component model.
Most of the time I can easily tell the chip by just looking at online teardown photos, without even having physical access to the device.
On the other hand, it makes repairing faulty components very difficult for the users. They should stop doing that.
Or, they should consider publish these information after a period of time (such as 2-3 years after product launch) when there's no further values in protecting these as trade secrets .
 
Oh, so it might just be for alignment, but the overall soldering quality still looks kinda sloppy, especially those twisted boards :facepalm:
yes. in terms of build quality of the pcb you feel sloppiness here and there. flux never got cleaned. boards are cut with rough edges, and installed with twisted angle.
component markings are sanded off. headphone jack is not even aligned precisely to the front panel and you have to push them in order to assemble back.
You don't find "hifi-quality" components on the board. On I/V board photo the lower two op amps seem like different models or from different batches.
Personally I don't really care given this low price... It works and measures great, and that's good enough for ASR.
 
Actually I was looking to and there are many bad solder joints quite obviously, that has an impact. And the sanding. That says a lot regardless if the sent by topping sample tested well. The also reports of hot cases (40C plus in summer where I live). The implication is that its luck of the draw getting a solidly working long lasting sample. Its a shame because given the excellent result which which we can see are quite common accessible budget parts with the exception of the ESSx2 they have capable engineers > really just need to sort the manufacturing QC, care and approach. I think I would pay more for a crafted reliable product.
 
Follow up: I realise they are completely far apart price categories but look after above go look at the insides of Gustard R26.....
 
I especially like those Comic-Sans labels ;)

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Only a possibility: A Windows XP computer is part of the production chain? Many such (or older) machines are offline, so no real security problem, and almost "immortal", or they run legacy software which is hard / expensive to replace. So they run until they break down irrepairably.
 
mine stopped working after less then 2 months. waiting to see if i can get another one but i bought it from china so you never know.
may i ask you how you opened it? i unscrewed 10 screws but it didn't open
 
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