Topping DX5 Review (DAC & HP Amp)

[HDavidson]

Model Topping DX5. Where did you see it is written that it is FW different? Lite or MQA. I haven't seen this anywhere.
This type of detail must be communicated clearly ! And especially when it comes to one model in two versions with minor differences.
I'm sure if I hadn't reported this issue here, many would have done the same.

 

[4udio]

Model Topping DX5. Where did you see it is written that it is FW different? Lite or MQA. I haven't seen this anywhere.
This type of detail must be communicated clearly ! And especially when it comes to one model in two versions with minor differences.
I'm sure if I hadn't reported this issue here, many would have done the same.

This approach is just wrong. If firmware is compatible with two different devices that needs to be stated clearly, otherwise, firmware should not be installed on device that is not listed as compatible. I mean, it is common reasoning.

 

[HDavidson]

Disagree categorically.
You can twist this question as you like. In my opinion, just the difference in FW for one device reference should be clearly advertised. That's not the case. That is, to avoid mistakes.
I have not tried to install FW from ED5 or DX7. Which would be strange.

 

[Trell]

Disagree categorically.
You can twist this question as you like. In my opinion, just the difference in FW for one device reference should be clearly advertised. That's not the case. That is, to avoid mistakes.
I have not tried to install FW from ED5 or DX7. Which would be strange.

Topping has bewildering number of similar devices with similar names, so it’s easy to get confused.

In any case, it’s good that the firmware updater checks that the firmware is compatible with the device before flashing and thus potentially bricking it.

 

[HDavidson]

The miniprogram showed FW 1.08 and updated it to 1.38. The final message is "update succeeded".

 

[4udio]

Disagree categorically.
You can twist this question as you like. In my opinion, just the difference in FW for one device reference should be clearly advertised. That's not the case. That is, to avoid mistakes.
I have not tried to install FW from ED5 or DX7. Which would be strange.

If person has diabetes and wants to drink Coca Cola, should it buy regular or Coca Cola Zero (sugar free) ? There is no note on bottle that regular one is for healthy people only ,but everyone knows that it should be avoided. If there is sugar in it then it is for healthy person only. Same is for product you buy: if product is listed in firmware release note then you should install it, otherwise, don't install it.

 

[HDavidson]

Do not make concept substitutions. It is demagoguery.
Where exactly did you see the FW marking - DX5 MQA or DX5 LITE? The only thing we see on the site is - Topping DX5.
Point.

 

[4udio]

My point was that if my model was not listed explicitly (full name with rev number) I would not install it. I would write to Topping support asking for clarification.

 

[Trell]

If person has diabetes and wants to drink Coca Cola, should it buy regular or Coca Cola Zero (sugar free) ? There is no note on bottle that regular one is for healthy people only ,but everyone knows that it should be avoided. If there is sugar in it then it is for healthy person only. Same is for product you buy: if product is listed in firmware release note then you should install it, otherwise, don't install it.

The firmware updater could check if the firmware is valid for the device.

Or to use your analogy: Ask your valet to buy a Coke for you that you can drink, even if you’ve diabetes.

 

[4udio]

The firmware updater could check if the firmware is valid for the device.

Or to use your analogy: Ask your valet to buy a Coke for you that you can drink, even if you’ve diabetes.

Exactly. If you decide to trust your valet you accept that you might die if he makes mistake. When you make a choice to delegate your decision making to someone else you've intentionally accepted the risk. In this case, Topping's buggy software created an issue for you but simple email to Topping support could have spared you a trouble.
So responsibility is surely on their side but on yours also.

 

[Metronomy]

ÈArrived today, I connected everything but I don't feel anything from the jack 6.5 me from the xr/4.4

Am I doing something wrong?

Connected via usb and Apple lightning camera kit

 

[Metronomy]

ÈArrived today, I connected everything but I don't feel anything from the jack 6.5 me from the xr/4.4

Am I doing something wrong?

Connected via usb and Apple lightning camera kit

Ah how stupid I had the phone volume low.

But does it have a gain adjustment?

 

[staticV3]

But does it have a gain adjustment?

See the product page

 

[Metronomy]

See the product page
View attachment 275683

I can't access the menu for the gain, but do I do it with the remote control?

 

[staticV3]

I can't access the menu for the gain, but do I do it with the remote control?

The gain menu is only accessible via the remote:

 

[kemmler3D]

Well it looks like I'm one of the sad or stupid few like @HDavidson , I didn't read this entire thread, but did notice that there were issues resolved via FW update for the DX5.

Got my DX5 Lite yesterday and immediately went to update FW.

The Topping page where you download the FW doesn't differentiate between MQA or Lite. It doesn't even mention that there are two versions. No model numbers aside from "DX5" are mentioned.

The FW update utility recognizes the DX5 Lite as a "DX5" and doesn't throw any warnings. The firmware update proceeds successfully... but the unit is bricked. It shows "incorrect FW ver" on the screen and that's it. I am able to enter DFU mode but that's all, I think.

As someone who used to write user manuals as part of my job in the audio business... this is not good documentation / UX, honestly. If there are two ALMOST IDENTICAL versions of the product, (distinguishable only by a sticker on the chassis!) then I shouldn't be able to disable one of the SKUs by correctly following the instructions for the wrong SKU.

Really hoping Topping is able to provide the old 1.08 FW so I can revert this to working order!!

 

[Metronomy]

I have a fight too and I don't see a big deal to wait a few weeks to do the update modified by Topping.

 

[HDavidson]

They sent the original FW 1.08, which I reinstalled on 1.38. It worked 100%. DX5 LITE is back to life.

 

[kemmler3D]

Same, I emailed Topping, within less than 24h they had sent the 1.08 file, everything is back to normal after a quick update. Thanks Topping!

 

[Rockfella]

I wonder if this is a good upgrade from FiiO K5 Pro (suing RCA) to this one with XLR.