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Topping DX5 II

Maybe they just set stock = 0 while setting up the page and the pre-order is not ready for some reason...
 
Maybe they just set stock = 0 while setting up the page and the pre-order is not ready for some reason...

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(furiously pressing F5 over the next 4 days...)

Two more fitting words
Not released

And here I thought they were being nice by releasing it early :oops:
 
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The Topping DX5 II is already listed on their website as “Sold Out” — no cause for concern: it simply hasn’t been officially released yet, not even in China. This apparent unavailability is nothing more than the natural prelude to its scheduled launch on June 10. But be ready to pre-order the moment it becomes available, as all signs suggest the first batch will sell out in the blink of an eye.
 
I don't see where it says that the PEQ works on all inputs. You would think they would advertise it clearly if it does.
If it doesn't, that would be very disappointing.
 
I don't see where it says that the PEQ works on all inputs.

In the promo images, first page of this thread. AFAIK, those were posted by Topping on their FB page, and unless *that* was the cause of the delay, I doubt that has changed.

The only thing that would be "disappointing" to me would be that PEQ is still limited to 24-bit/192kHz (which is what is indicated on the Shenzhenaudio site).
 
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Also, I'm surprised that it's not a USB-C connection on the back instead of USB-B...
Which is a very good decision, as the USB B connector is much more resilient and robust. A USB C connector is just a gimmick and an imposter at this point, because it's only USB 2.0 anyway.
Good old 4-wire USB ;)

The only thing that would be "disappointing" to me would be that PEQ is still limited to 24-bit/192kHz (which is what is indicated on the Shenzhenaudio site).
Which surprises me, because that already requires a lot of computing power. After that, the required computing power literally explodes.
A really great device, I'm really looking forward to it.
 
Some may bemoan the absence of this or that “refinement” — occasionally more ornamental than essential — but in this price range, the DX5 II clearly marks a turning point. The only real shortcoming is the lack of a balanced 4.4 mm output. I’m pre-ordering mine first thing Tuesday.

Oh, I'm not complaining, it's just strange to see, considering almost all of the newer models of these types of devices have had USB-C connectors.

I'm not even sure where the disdain for USB-C comes from. It's perfectly fine IME.
 
Oh, I'm not complaining, it's just strange to see, considering almost all of the newer models of these types of devices have had USB-C connectors.

I'm not even sure where the disdain for USB-C comes from. It's perfectly fine IME.
This has nothing to do with contempt, but rather with durability and experience.
Ask repair services for photo and video cameras or cell phones how often they need to replace defective USB-C sockets.
I've also had countless USB microphones with defective USB-C sockets on my workbench, including the popular Beyerdynamic FOX, all of which had contact problems. I've had exactly two microphones with defective USB-B sockets, both heavy microphones with drop damage from a height of over 1.5m, falling directly onto the connector with the cable plugged in. The connector and socket were intact, but the socket was torn off the circuit board, soldered in place, and worked.

Due to the small USB-C connector with 24 contacts, quality differences have a much greater impact than with the large USB-B connector with 4 contacts.
Added to this is the much smaller contact surface of the USB-C connector. There are 12 contacts in a width of less than 7mm, minus 3mm for insulation/contact spacing. That leaves 4mm for 12 contacts = 0.33mm contact width. Although there are two of each contact, they are only about 1.5mm long.
USB B connectors have a contact width of about 1.5mm and are several mm long.

I will be taking the DX5 II with me often and am very happy to have a robust USB B socket.
What would be the advantage of USB C connectors?
 
Some may bemoan the absence of this or that “refinement” — occasionally more ornamental than essential — but in this price range, the DX5 II clearly marks a turning point. The only real shortcoming is the lack of a balanced 4.4 mm output. I’m pre-ordering mine first thing Tuesday.
DX5 II does have 4.4 mm balanced/differential headphone output. Unless you meant 4.4 mm pre out on the back panel.
 

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DX5 II does have 4.4 mm balanced/differential headphone output. Unless you meant 4.4 mm pre out on the back panel.
You are absolutely right, and I readily acknowledge my mistake. Thank you for pointing that out — it only strengthens the impression of a device that borders on perfection.
 
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You are absolutely right, and I readily acknowledge my mistake: the DX5 II does indeed offer a 4.4 mm balanced headphone output. Thank you for pointing that out — it only strengthens the impression of a device that borders on perfection.
Absolutely understandable, hard to tell the difference between 3.5 mm and 4.4mm in pictures. Someone had posted a link earlier in the thread to a Chinese website that had a copy of the english manual with some measurements and non-marketing photos of it.
 
Come on, it's the written on the marketing images in the Shenzhen Audio link...

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Just seen it here (sorry if this was known already):
Welp, there goes my money.

The display is what kills it though. Back in the day when WinAmp as the software of choice for me to play my "acquired" music files. I used to just play a song and just stare at the spectrum analyzer visualization. Such simpler times.
 
Come on, to be fair it wasn't a listed feature on any of the photos on the original post of the thread or Topping's Facebook or twitter accounts.

With truly the utmost respect: to be fair, the 4.4mm jack is visible in all of the photos, so I'm not sure listing it as a feature in the OG promo images would have been necessary?
This has nothing to do with contempt, but rather with durability and experience.
Ask repair services for photo and video cameras or cell phones how often they need to replace defective USB-C sockets.
I've also had countless USB microphones with defective USB-C sockets on my workbench, including the popular Beyerdynamic FOX, all of which had contact problems. I've had exactly two microphones with defective USB-B sockets, both heavy microphones with drop damage from a height of over 1.5m, falling directly onto the connector with the cable plugged in. The connector and socket were intact, but the socket was torn off the circuit board, soldered in place, and worked.

Due to the small USB-C connector with 24 contacts, quality differences have a much greater impact than with the large USB-B connector with 4 contacts.
Added to this is the much smaller contact surface of the USB-C connector. There are 12 contacts in a width of less than 7mm, minus 3mm for insulation/contact spacing. That leaves 4mm for 12 contacts = 0.33mm contact width. Although there are two of each contact, they are only about 1.5mm long.
USB B connectors have a contact width of about 1.5mm and are several mm long.

I will be taking the DX5 II with me often and am very happy to have a robust USB B socket.
What would be the advantage of USB C connectors?

I'm sorry that you've had bad experiences with USB-C. The only time it's been a "problem" was with PS4 controllers, but that is not the fault of USB-C, it is the fault of whoever designed the controller's USB-C input location -- laying the controller down flat on a table with a charge cable connected had it pointing in a downward slope, and with it coming into contact with the table surface (or any surface you laid it on), caused it to bend over time. This lead to the cable's connection becoming unreliable/loose, but the jack on the controller itself was perfectly fine, and never failed. A new cable connected just fine with no loose connection. Outside of that, not a single problem or connector/socket failure.

I think the main advantage of USB-C is that it is orientation-independent. According to Google, USB-C cables also tend to have much higher data transfer rates, can transfer audio and video directly, and have higher power delivery, but I believe that that has more to do with the USB protocol than the connector.

Again, I have to stress that I am in no way upset about this, I was merely expecting there to be a different USB connection type (the D50 III uses USB-C). It struck me as odd, given the ubiquity of USB-C these days. As long as it works, I truly don't care.

I also need to make a correction - I said that the PEQ feature is limited to 24-bit/192kHz. I was wrong. All documentation for any of their devices that support PEQ supports 32-bit, but does limit it to 192kHz. I'm not sure what USB protocol Topping is using with this device, but if I were to guess, it is USB 2.0, and the reason why the PEQ feature has such limitations. A higher protocol, I'm guessing, might allow for going as high as 32-bit/384 or 768kHz?
 
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