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Topping DX5 II

Wait, if you use the on/off switch instead of letting the unit in standby then you lose all your settings?
The equalizer setting saved on the device itself will definitely disappear, but other settings may or may not disappear. This is random.
 
The equalizer setting saved on the device itself will definitely disappear, but other settings may or may not disappear. This is random.
So it's a bug, then. What a terrible design. The on/off switch was one of the reasons I bought it to replace my DX3 pro+. Not the main reason, of course, but still...
 
So it's a bug, then. What a terrible design. The on/off switch was one of the reasons I bought it to replace my DX3 pro+. Not the main reason, of course, but still...
I not had my DX5 II lose any settings due to a power off using the switch. It does lose the PEQ config sometimes, but it's unclear if this is due to the DX5 II losing the config, or Topping.Tune reporting it incorrectly (I have had 2 custom PEQ configs showing on the DX5 II display with Topping.Tune showing the 5 default configs at the same time).
 
Wait, if you use the on/off switch instead of letting the unit in standby then you lose all your settings?

I had mine turned off for two weeks because I was away on vacation, and nothing was lost when I turned it back on, so I don't think that's correct.

You need to fully reset (default settings) the unit before, and after upgrades.

It wasn't normal to do this before.

You don't have to fully reset your DX5 II before/after a FW update. That's silly.
 
The equalizer setting saved on the device itself will definitely disappear, but other settings may or may not disappear. This is random.

Not in my experience. Nothing has ever been deleted/disappeared in TT/my DX5 II outside of when the occasional FW update fully resets the device.
 
Not in my experience. Nothing has ever been deleted/disappeared in TT/my DX5 II outside of when the occasional FW update fully resets the device.
That's my experience as well. I must add that I use the DX5 II offline. It gets connected to a computer only when I update the firmware or edit the Peq profiles. All inputs are fed through the SPDIFF ports. The DX5 II is has been switched on/off by a master/slave switch in the power supply line that is steered by my streamer for the past 6 months. . When the Streamer goes standby everything else is killed except the streamer itself off course that has to remain online to act upon requests originating from the network. When the streamer becomes active the DX5 II, the RIAA pre-amp, the Minidsp PocketADC and the power amp automatically start up when they receive mains again. I have never experienced any any loss or change in settings or DSP profiles.
 
Thanks, I feel better. :)
That's fine.

As I mentioned, I don't use the Usb connection other than for maintenance.
It is possible that there is some parasitic influence from topping tune. In it's default setting Topping tune always remains dormant in the background. Perhaps it would be a sensible action to change the default setting in Topping Tune to actually shut down when you close its window.
 
Perhaps it would be a sensible action to change the default setting in Topping Tune to actually shut down when you close its window.

TT has that option:

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hmm mine started distorting after listening for 20-30 mins on my mac. i had to unplug and replug to get the fix, when I started googling the I saw so many had failures with the 4.4 balanced port. i'm starting to be scared that mine is fried :/. i'm on the 2504*** serials
 
hmm mine started distorting after listening for 20-30 mins on my mac. i had to unplug and replug to get the fix, when I started googling the I saw so many had failures with the 4.4 balanced port. i'm starting to be scared that mine is fried :/. i'm on the 2504*** serials

What FW are you on?

And how do you have things connected to your Mac?
 
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I found on the Topping website the actual version of the firmware is V2.14 and Topping Tune version 1.15

Can someone summarize the actual status of open issues?
 
I found on the Topping website the actual version of the firmware is V2.14 and Topping Tune version 1.15

Can someone summarize the actual status of open issues?

What specific issues are you inquiring about? I have not come across anything new since v2.14 (which was released over a month ago), and am not aware of any open issues. I vaguely recall someone mentioning one issue, but with no new FWs released, they wouldn't have addressed it yet.
 
What specific issues are you inquiring about? I have not come across anything new since v2.14 (which was released over a month ago), and am not aware of any open issues. I vaguely recall someone mentioning one issue, but with no new FWs released, they wouldn't have addressed it yet.
Thank you for your answer. I did not follow the whole thread because it's simply to long to read and I am currently thinking about to buy one and give it to a friend to his birthday.
 

(Sorry for the multiple posts, the edit button is no longer available for this post, otherwise it would have simply been edited)

I clearly misread. I realize now that you're recommending they change the option in TT to shut it down when closing the window. Apologies. That's what happens when I haven't had enough coffee to fully wake myself up :facepalm:
 
Thank you for your answer. I did not follow the whole thread because it's simply to long to read and I am currently thinking about to buy one and give it to a friend to his birthday.

In my experience with the device, all of the major issues that I ever came across have been addressed. If anything, I experienced something where the device wouldn't come out of standby mode, but it's honestly so rare (I haven't had it happen in a very long time, now -- I think a few months ago was the last time) that I have completely forgotten about it until just now. It's easily resolved by flipping the switch on the back of the unit off/on again, though, so it's more of an annoyance than anything. With no definite steps to reproduce outside of it happens after being in standby mode for X amount of time (X = an unknown amount of time), Topping hasn't addressed that yet, and I seem to be the only one who has reported this, so it probably isn't universal.

I also haven't done a lot of messing around to see if there's anything of note with v2.14, so there might be an issue or two there that I haven't encountered simply because I haven't used/tested whatever setting may be causing a problem.

There's always going to be an issue (that's just the way things are), but I would argue that the device has been pretty stable for me since the last FW update. Others may disagree, though.

The only other thing to mention is if the friend plans to use this device on a Mac or Linux (though Linux users have plenty of access to things that will negate this issue), there is a data streaming pop caused by the XMOS USB chip waking up/going to sleep, but that is not something that is specific to this device (or Topping for that matter). It's a non-issue on Windows because the driver allows you to set the data streaming to be always on (which I believe it's set to that by default, now). It's a non-issue if the the TOSLINK, digital coax or Bluetooth inputs if the device is used as a preamp in a HT or small stereo system. This is only if you use the USB input on the device with MacOS, and largely only noticeable if it's used in a nearfield context (and even then, it's very subtle).

The workaround on MacOS is to either use a USB DDC in between the Mac and the DX5 II (I have used a Topping D10s, but a SMSL PO100 or PO100 Pro works) or run an app called Keep Mac Audio Alive (you can search the review thread for that) running in the background -- the app is very resource-light, so it's not going to bog anything down. The caveat with using the app is you have to remember to manually put the Mac to sleep otherwise the DX5 II won't go into standby mode since it is being fed a constant stream of data. This is not a concern if a USB DDC is used.

That's really about it, though.
 
The thread is a bit long for a hunt and I am finding conflicting claims.
I own two of these units, both latest firmware.

Is it possible to do a global backup of all settings inculding my 3 headphone curves, if so how, what format for export to import it into the second unit.

Same question if it's not global, the basic setup is not hard, takes a few minutes, If I can only back up my 3 headphone curves to put on the other unit, can I backup all three at one, or is it one at a time and what format do I used to export the curve(s) to imprt them into the second.

I like many have lost my settings in firmware updates a few times and am tired of rebuliding curves,
Thanks in advance experts.
 
In my experience with the device, all of the major issues that I ever came across have been addressed. If anything, I experienced something where the device wouldn't come out of standby mode, but it's honestly so rare (I haven't had it happen in a very long time, now -- I think a few months ago was the last time) that I have completely forgotten about it until just now. It's easily resolved by flipping the switch on the back of the unit off/on again, though, so it's more of an annoyance than anything. With no definite steps to reproduce outside of it happens after being in standby mode for X amount of time (X = an unknown amount of time), Topping hasn't addressed that yet, and I seem to be the only one who has reported this, so it probably isn't universal.

I also haven't done a lot of messing around to see if there's anything of note with v2.14, so there might be an issue or two there that I haven't encountered simply because I haven't used/tested whatever setting may be causing a problem.

There's always going to be an issue (that's just the way things are), but I would argue that the device has been pretty stable for me since the last FW update. Others may disagree, though.

The only other thing to mention is if the friend plans to use this device on a Mac or Linux (though Linux users have plenty of access to things that will negate this issue), there is a data streaming pop caused by the XMOS USB chip waking up/going to sleep, but that is not something that is specific to this device (or Topping for that matter). It's a non-issue on Windows because the driver allows you to set the data streaming to be always on (which I believe it's set to that by default, now). It's a non-issue if the the TOSLINK, digital coax or Bluetooth inputs if the device is used as a preamp in a HT or small stereo system. This is only if you use the USB input on the device with MacOS, and largely only noticeable if it's used in a nearfield context (and even then, it's very subtle).

The workaround on MacOS is to either use a USB DDC in between the Mac and the DX5 II (I have used a Topping D10s, but a SMSL PO100 or PO100 Pro works) or run an app called Keep Mac Audio Alive (you can search the review thread for that) running in the background -- the app is very resource-light, so it's not going to bog anything down. The caveat with using the app is you have to remember to manually put the Mac to sleep otherwise the DX5 II won't go into standby mode since it is being fed a constant stream of data. This is not a concern if a USB DDC is used.

That's really about it, though.
It will be used on a Windows computer/laptop.
 
The thread is a bit long for a hunt and I am finding conflicting claims.
I own two of these units, both latest firmware.

Is it possible to do a global backup of all settings inculding my 3 headphone curves, if so how, what format for export to import it into the second unit.

Same question if it's not global, the basic setup is not hard, takes a few minutes, If I can only back up my 3 headphone curves to put on the other unit, can I backup all three at one, or is it one at a time and what format do I used to export the curve(s) to imprt them into the second.

I like many have lost my settings in firmware updates a few times and am tired of rebuliding curves,
Thanks in advance experts.

The best way would probably be to have them saved on your computer so that you can re-import if the FW happens to reset the device settings. I think if you also have them in the Local Config section in Topping Tune, you can connect each of your units to your computer via USB, and transfer/copy to the User Config section.

Every so often the FW will force a reset, it's not every FW update. IME it's only been when there's a larger jump in the released FW version numbers (i.e. it went from v1.93 to v2.07). There's probably a technical reason for this, but I haven't the foggiest idea what. AFAIK, the Local Config section in TT doesn't get wiped if the FW happens to reset the device settings.

I think the file used format for PEQ filter files in Topping Tune is .txt, but the target curves/source FR is .csv
 
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