amirm commented on "Topping DX3 Pro + Listening Tests" and "Conclusions" after the measurements. I think that is what you want to know.how well are Topping DX3 Pro+ and SENNHEISER HD 6XX HEADPHONES work together?
how can I miss Sennheiser HD650 lolamirm commented on "Topping DX3 Pro + Listening Tests" and "Conclusions" after the measurements. I think that is what you want to know.
This is a malfunction of the headphone amplifier chip. Should be no more than 5 mV.I don't know much, but I would like to know why constant voltage at the headphone output is a bad thing?
Direct current, of course.You mean DC voltage?
This is very long! I ordered mine on 11th November from Shenzhen audio store on AliExpress and they still haven't shipped it out. Instead they are asking for me to extend order processing time.I ordered mine on 10th October from Shenzhen Audio. Looks like it will still be yet a few more weeks before the DX3 Pro+ gets shipped. Those supply chain delays must be truly troublesome ...
In case it helps, I ordered mine from Audiophonics on 8th Oct, aware that they were awaiting stock. They emailed on 15th Oct to apologise that the stock arrival had been delayed to early Nov which I told them was fine. They sent it out on 3rd Nov and it arrived on 10th Nov. So that's just over a month including two international shipments and a hold in UK customs while I paid the tax and duty. I had no problem with that as I was upgrading - it might have been different if I had no DAC and no music.This is very long! I ordered mine on 11th November from Shenzhen audio store on AliExpress and they still haven't shipped it out. Instead they are asking for me to extend order processing time.
Those will be fine, I just sold a pair last week and tried it on the JDS Atom stack and it sounded good. They're rated to handle a lot of power, but they aren't that difficult to drive. I tested them with the SMSL SP200, Magni Heresy, and JDS Atom, and they got plenty loud in high gain mode on the Atom.Hi! Please, explain to me: with 1500 mW@32 Ohm, DX3 Pro+ still appears to be suffering from the clipping, - does that mean that for Fostex t50rp MK3 this device is strictly not recommended?
Today it's shipped out by DHL, but it's not tracking yet... Shall I wait for several days for it to track ?In case it helps, I ordered mine from Audiophonics on 8th Oct, aware that they were awaiting stock. They emailed on 15th Oct to apologise that the stock arrival had been delayed to early Nov which I told them was fine. They sent it out on 3rd Nov and it arrived on 10th Nov. So that's just over a month including two international shipments and a hold in UK customs while I paid the tax and duty. I had no problem with that as I was upgrading - it might have been different if I had no DAC and no music.
At some point it should become possible to buy from dealer stock but perhaps too many of us are jumping on the Pro+ for supply to keep up - I just checked Audiophonics' website and they are saying that they expect to have stock '09-16 December'. They were accurate about stock arrival last time and it seemed like others who were waiting for delivery from other sellers like Shenzhen and Apos got theirs around the same time as I did.
Amirm Hello! How does DX3 PRO + compare with RME adi-2 DAC in music tone? Which is more pure and which is more heavily stained.This is a review and detailed measurements of the Topping DX3 Pro+ DAC and headphone amplifier. It is a replacement for one of my most favorite combo products, the DX3 Pro. It was sent to me by the company and costs US $199.
The DX3 Pro+ maintains the gorgeous and high contrast orange LEDs which I am very fond of:
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The back panel is a bit unusual in a good way with sporting dual Coax inputs:
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There is a remote and support for Bluetooth. The external power supply is a 15 volt one which should help with power output of the headphone amplifier.
Topping DX3 Pro+ Measurements
Let's start with our DAC measurements and the dashboard:
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I expect great performance from Topping and the DX3 Pro+ naturally delivers. Distortion products are at -125 dB worst case which is well below threshold of audibility. THD+N sums to 0.000146 which matches company spec of 0.00015 rating of the company. Converting that to dB, we get our SINAD which comfortably lands in our top tier of all DACs tested:
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Zooming into its neighbors:
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Dynamic range is excellent:
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Multitone test shows again the low level of distortion no matter how many tones we throw at it:
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Intermodulation distortion shows that it matches its older brother and then beats it at highest output levels:
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The graph never tilts up indicating that it is noise limited, not distortion.
Jitter test shows a bit of interference below 1 kHz which fortunately is completely inaudible:
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Linearity is nailed showing excellent accuracy of levels:
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You can use a bunch of filters as usual:
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THD+N vs frequency naturally varies with the filter you use:
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Headphone amplifier measurement
Let's start with the signal-to-noise ratio of the headphone output:
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I hope for better performance at 50 mv output, although it is significantly above average:
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The most important test here is the power output:
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There is enough power and the distortion does not clip/rise.
Switching to a 32 ohm load, we still have good power:
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Testing under many load impedances tells us that amplifiers do not like very low impedances:
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This is a good test for a microprocessor-controlled protection circuit that starts with the lowest impedance. This has always been a pain point of the old version of DX3 Pro, and Topping actively monitors it here.
Best DX3 Pro+ hearing test
I did all the tests under high gain, where DX3 Pro+ can easily achieve the best fidelity in Sennheiser HD650 and Drop Ether CX. It drives them with authority, creating a dynamic response with a lot of detail and superb tones. Anyone who thinks these extremely low noise and distortion audio products sound "clinical" should go to the clinic to check it out!
To grin, I still wear my Dan Clark Stealth headphones. Here, the power is less than when using the aforementioned headphones, but it is still very useful. But please note that when I turned the volume up to 0 dB for testing, the amplifier went into protection. I tried again, but couldn't replicate it. In any case, it was pretty good before reaching that limit.
in conclusion
Before this review, I was frustrated with testing poorly performing products one after another. The result was so bad, I started to doubt my Audio Precision analyzer! Fortunately, I have DX3 Pro+ for testing. As you can see, it not only performs well, but also proves the correctness of the audio analyzer! This combined device provides you with everything you need for a compact and attractive device at a favorable price. As far as low-impedance headphones are concerned, it does not have unlimited functions, so you need countless other options from Topping. However, in addition to that niche use, DX3 Pro+ can do the job and do it very well.
I am happy to recommend Topping DX3Pro+ to you.
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Distortion products are at -125 dB worst case which is well below threshold of audibility.
The distortion level now is state of the art with levels at -130 dB (15 dB better that best case human hearing).
Killingbeans, each manufacturer will have different tuning preferences when the indicators are met. What I want to know is this difference.
No, they won't. If two DACs sound different, then one or both of them is not accurately converting the signal--which is true of many very expensive DACs, unfortunately. Two DACs that measure well above the threshold of hearing in every important test will sound the same.Killingbeans, each manufacturer will have different tuning preferences when the indicators are met. What I want to know is this difference.
The dac may be doing the converting but there is a lot more happening in the signal path that can change sound signature e.g. output stage etc.No, they won't. If two DACs sound different, then one or both of them is not accurately converting the signal--which is true of many very expensive DACs, unfortunately. Two DACs that measure well above the threshold of hearing in every important test will sound the same.
Read through this..... https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...-thresholds-of-amp-and-dac-measurements.5734/Why is it that two dacs from different manufacturers using the same chip can sound so different, same chip so identical conversion.