Topping D10s USB DAC and Bridge Review

[Veri]

External power would provide cleaner power but what other way does extra power benefit the DAC? Would my D10s be holding back my Liquid Spark due to lack of power?

Oh no definitely not, external power can just help with USB power problems, as the person asking already had some issues.

 

[Yoyop]

Oh no definitely not, external power can just help with USB power problems, as the person asking already had some issues.

So should I re-order an E30 ? I used Samsung phone charger with it but is there any difference if I power it by Desktop USB ? (for Convenience)

 

[Veri]

So should I re-order an E30 ? I used Samsung phone charger with it but is there any difference if I power it by Desktop USB ? (for Convenience)

You'd have to try and see but under normal circumstances? No.

 

[Yoyop]

You'd have to try and see but under normal circumstances? No.

Ok sound quality will be the same, maybe the Samsung wall charger destroyed my previous E30 ? (5V 2A)
E30 clearly benefits is Power separated of Data, well i'll maybe give it another chance ...

Should I install Topping drivers or just plug and play with WASAPI in foobar ?

 

[Veri]

Ok sound quality will be the same, maybe the Samsung wall charger destroyed my previous E30 ? (5V 2A)
E30 clearly benefits is Power separated of Data, well i'll maybe give it another chance ...

Should I install Topping drivers or just plug and play with WASAPI in foobar ?

Amir usually tests with a simply samsung adapter too, so it should not be a problem. Should only avoid "fast charge" high ampere cell phone chargers, those are a bad idea. About drivers, plug and play is fine, installing drivers will give ASIO support if you need it. Not a must.

 

[vdem]

It's not a mistake. But simply did not modify certain code. The space is there always.
The firmware with this fixed is available per request. But I don't want to go into this anymore this time.

Hi! Is it possible to fix with D10s after installing last driver V5.0.0 ? It works perfectly with driver V4.8.6.. a few days ago I decided to install a new driver and have got inoperable D10s after rebooting my desktop. I have tried to revert previous driver but without success.

 

[JohnYang1997]

Hi! Is it possible to fix with D10s after installing last driver V5.0.0 ? It works perfectly with driver V4.8.6.. a few days ago I decided to install a new driver and have got inoperable D10s after rebooting my desktop. I have tried to revert previous driver but without success.

Maybe uninstall and reinstall the driver without the device plugin in?

 

[vdem]

Maybe uninstall and reinstall the driver without the device plugin in?

it is look like it helps but only for V4.8.6 driver.. Thanks for quick response!

 

[beefkabob]

I'm having an issue where both channels play the same sound. Using SPDIF out. I haven't tried analog. So there's no imaging whatsoever. Just all front and center. Windows controls left and right just fine. Then whenever I play anything, it's all both channels to both channels. There's no balance control, even.

 

[escalibur]

New v5.0.0 drivers are out

https://www.tpdz.net/newsinfo/474829.html

Unfortunately I couldn't find any change log.

 

[Matias]

Incredible measurements for the D10 refresh!

https://www.l7audiolab.com/f/measur...m_campaign=measurements-of-topping-d10nda-dac

 

[ceausuc]

Incredible measurements for the D10 refresh!

https://www.l7audiolab.com/f/measur...m_campaign=measurements-of-topping-d10nda-dac

4.2V for RCA output?!

 

[Matias]

4.2V for RCA output?!

Looks like a balanced output then. Interesting.

 

[jannek]

Adopted the balanced RCA Khadas uses maybe?

 

[AnalogSteph]

Adopted the balanced RCA Khadas uses maybe?

This is what I'd suspect. Either that or plain ol' TRS, nothing too expensive either way.

I wonder what sort of DAC chip they may be using... AKM would likely be out for the foreseeable future (I kind of doubt they'd want to wait at least half a year with their product release), and there's not that much else that will get to 125 dB(A). Either something ESS or a CS43198 then, I guess.

 

[jannek]

For balanced it would need a doubled ES9038Q2M I think... I would not suppose a complete change of DAC chip. On the other hand double ES9038Q2M would be like D50s... Which is 13 dB "worse" at SINAD

 

[Veri]

This is what I'd suspect. Either that or plain ol' TRS, nothing too expensive either way.

I wonder what sort of DAC chip they may be using... AKM would likely be out for the foreseeable future (I kind of doubt they'd want to wait at least half a year with their product release), and there's not that much else that will get to 125 dB(A).

I believe either 1x (differential) or 2x ESS9038Q2M, and looks like TRS balanced outputs.

 

[Sak]

Incredible measurements for the D10 refresh!

Impressive.
I had the first D10, now d10S, it will be interesting to look at the updated version. I wonder will they change the name ?

 

[liu]

I believe either 1x (differential) or 2x ESS9038Q2M, and looks like TRS balanced outputs.

should be 1x differential.
2 ess chip would significantly increase the cost.
ess mobile chip are highly performant. khadas tone pro 2 uses single chip and achieved similar performance:
https://www.khadas.com/tone2pro
-118db thd+n (not a weighted)

 

[Veri]

Impressive.
I had the first D10, now d10S, it will be interesting to look at the updated version. I wonder will they change the name ?

I believe it will, yes. Since it is a balanced D10 it will have some indication of that

Incredible measurements for the D10 refresh!

https://www.l7audiolab.com/f/measur...m_campaign=measurements-of-topping-d10nda-dac

Just noticed the digital coax output is better performing (less noise and jitter) than $399.00 Singxer SU-1....