Do you know of one that measures well? I tend to distrust those "cheap adapters". I'm not aware of one of those measured here for less than the cost of the D10 Balanced.
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not to mention what kind of pc doesnt have a usb output or at least an internal header. even an arduino you would program in rx/tx pins I guess
do you know one that measures bad? its all digital. hard to mess this up.
There are some measured here that seem to have a comparable level of performance, but they are not cheaper than the D10 Balanced, in fact most are more expensive. This is why I asked you for something "really cheap". To me, 140 for a good USB to Coax/Toslink it's ok, and you get a balanced DAC for free.
There are Gustard and a Holo Audio for a bit more, 170. Only this SMSL seems to be a bit cheaper, although it's not recommended. You were referring to this kind of price? Around 100?
There really wasn't anything readily available and cheaper than D10s.
I don't know of any motherboard that has SPDIF coaxial output. This would have been obviously my first choice.
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I have a good power amp, but it's Spdif only. For the price I'm getting a ridiculously good dac and a good measuring digital out.
Also lots of Asus or Creative products out there doing this.
or a HDMI to spdif
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It's the same protocol. but you also find mainboards with coaxial spdif
if your dac has no toslink in?! you can use an adapter...
Maybe if money is not to mush of an consideration the D10B is also not a a bad DDC
But for me it is very waist full thinking. 90% of engineering development and component cost is in the analog part of the DAC and your not using it at all.
I would instantly buy the D10B if it would have coax or toslink inputs.
But with USB i can only comet it to one USB source.
I want to be able to connect all my Digital sources to one DAC.
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That would be a really nice device indeed.
I was using RCA output also so I got my money's worth.
I would be interested in B550 board with coax out if you know one. Not interested in toslink to coax converter.
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oh yeah there are 0 with coaxial outputs, i would have to be some kinda f daughter board. What I mean was the usb, thats for power and data on this unit isnt it?
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You could use something like this, assuming thr motherboard has an S/PDIF header, as most do: https://www.amazon.com/SPDIF-Optical-Plate-Bracket-Gigabyte/dp/B07FJMD7BF
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Finally got the cables in today to connect my recently acquiered D10b but i can notice some things that i dont know if they are issues or not.
First of all even tho it should be twice the voltage output than my SE dac (fx audio dac x6) I didnt really get any more volume as the other dac got for the same amp volume knob position, does this mean that this DAC has much lower gain than the x6?
Also I can hear a click through the headphones every time the audio source goes on or off, something than the x6 didnt do either, is this the normal way of working of this device?
First of all even tho it should be twice the voltage output than my SE dac (fx audio dac x6) I didnt really get any more volume as the other dac got for the same amp volume knob position, does this mean that this DAC has much lower gain than the x6?
Also I can hear a click through the headphones every time the audio source goes on or off, something than the x6 didnt do either, is this the normal way of working of this device?
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If I had seen your post sooner I would have suggested using something like this https://www.aliexpress.com/item/328....store_pc_groupList.8148356.29.11dd6df1TqKFL0
As someone with a turntable phono setup besides my usb dacs, and active speakers alongside headphone amps (after selling the passives and integrated amp), I find it really useful
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Also, for all except those who want nothing short of starquad cables, these are great for little https://www.amazon.com.au/Hosa-HSX-...49eb6&pd_rd_wg=dFtTZ&pd_rd_i=B004NCY4CQ&psc=1
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The display flat cable can be removed and D10 works fine.
The 10B would be a tad over 6 dB higher than the X6, detectable but, not dramatically so. What are you connecting the DAC output to?
The preamp is important.
Most have the balanced inputs buffered and converted to a single ended like all the other inputs so levels are the similar.
Block diagram for my amp. You can see the balanced are buffered and converted to unbalanced and then handled the same as the rest of the unbalanced.
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oh well, i went through all 36 sites just to find the pcb picture i was searching for on the last pageThe display flat cable can be removed and D10 works fine.
not really happy to see that opamps are not changeable anymore (i tried a few and the OP1656 sounded best on the old D10 (probably because it can handle high impedance better than others with 10k impedance studio monitors)
also im unsure if its a good thing just one electrolyte capacitor is used compared to the old D10 which had 5 or 6 (i changed them to Nichicon Muse KZ`s and it had an nice effect, tho a added bypass capacitor on the OPamp (also Nichicon Muse KZ) has a far more audible effect)
The stock D10 sounded clear but it sounds way better with the mods, specially the OP2134 has some kind of "boring" feel to it
kinda crap to see the LM4562 because i didnt like it while testing it on the D10, it was better than the stock OP2134 (tho it sounded too bright for my taste), the OP1612 was a littler more clearer (clear highs but not as bright) and the OP1656 just beated them all (tho like i said probably because of better high impedance specs)
did anyone compare the old stock D10 with the D10 Balanced sound-wise? (tho its a stupid question because, atleast, i like the LM4652 more than the OP2134 too...) but probably there is more to it since for example lower jitter make me expect a change in the usb input circuitry too
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