Topping D10 Balanced Review (USB DAC)

[jtwrace]

@JohnYang1997 can you please make something like this or D90 that has the RPi built in?

 

[PeteL]

I guess. I'd think economies of scale would balance out a bit vs making multiple models. I suppose one could make one PCB and leave part of it unpopulated. I'd pay a bit extra for XLR jacks and single-ended added. I don't currently have system with balanced inputs but I'm planning to.

But isn't it exactly what the D30 pro gives you?

 

[buxtehude]

This will be a perfect little box to connect my Genelec 8330 GLM AES to Mac. (I bought audio interface instead )

@JohnYang1997 if I may ask, is there a noticeable latency for the digital out (coax)? Would I be able to edit video and watch movies with it? If not I’ll get rid of my large audio interface and just get this.

And thanks for including the XLR adapter I can’t believe it

 

[Labjr]

But isn't it exactly what the D30 pro gives you?

They're in the same league sonically. But the DP30 is 3x the price.

 

[JohnYang1997]

This will be a perfect little box to connect my Genelec 8330 GLM AES to Mac. (I bought audio interface instead )

@JohnYang1997 if I may ask, is there a noticeable latency for the digital out (coax)? Would I be able to edit video and watch movies with it? If not I’ll get rid of my large audio interface and just get this.

And thanks for including the XLR adapter I can’t believe it

You can set up buffer in XMOS driver control panel. You can push it under 5ms.

 

[milan616]

Big question: when can we get it on Amazon?

 

[PeteL]

They're in the same league sonically. But the DP30 is 3x the price.

OK but to be clear, they do offer what you want, you just think it's too expensive to get what you want, do you know other manufacturers that gives you those options for the price you are willing to pay?

 

[Atratusnex]

@JohnYang1997 will we get an E30 bal in the future?

 

[Grooved]

Cheap DAC + cheap monitor controller

Behringer Monitor1 40 €
https://www.thomann.de/ie/behringer_monitor1.htm

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Arte you sure it's 100% balanced inside the Behringer Monitor1 ? Because there are other product like that which are not... even with the XLR inputs and outputs.

 

[Labjr]

OK but to be clear, they do offer what you want, you just think it's too expensive to get what you want, do you know other manufacturers that gives you those options for the price you are willing to pay?

Not true. I was merely making a suggestion. There's miles between the D10 Pro and the model you're talking about. I could buy two more DACs.

 

[JohnYang1997]

Arte you sure it's 100% balanced inside ? Because there are other product like that which are not... even with the XLR inputs and outputs.

Yes it is.

 

[phoenixdogfan]

You can use normal cables.

I pair of cables terminated XlR at one end and TRS at the other would cost around $10-15 and are sold at pro audio shops everywhere.

 

[Zek]

Yes it is.

You mean D10d.
Question was for Behringer Monitor1.

 

[Labjr]

I pair of cables terminated XlR at one end and TRS at the other would cost around $10-15 and are sold at pro audio shops everywhere.

Anyone who's handy with a soldering iron can make a set of cables using the very best Neutrik plugs for cheap money.

 

[SEKLEM]

I didn't read the entire thread, but I've often wondered why the D10 models have SPDIF outputs. Why not have inputs?

 

[PeteL]

Not true. I was merely making a suggestion. There's miles between the D10 Pro and the model you're talking about. I could buy two more DACs.

Sure, didn’t want to give you a hard time, but as mentioned, in electronics, what is probably the highest cost drivers are enclosure, and connectors, your suggestion included tooling, and extra connectors, it’s fair to ask for always more, but You did get an answer, hey don’t do this because of the cost involved, and the cost, we the customer have to pay it. your suggestion also involved economy of scale, but with all respect you are wrong again because this enclosure is already tooled and molds are done and shared trough a few SKUs, that’s WHY they can offer it at this amazing price, what you are asking is an extra model, to fit between this one and the D30 in term of pricing, there really is no economy of scale, it’s an in between that would cut sales on both, D30 pro customers because they can get similar for cheaper, and cut on d10 balance becaus they’d like the extra connections

 

[Atratusnex]

I didn't read the entire thread, but I've often wondered why the D10 models have SPDIF outputs. Why not have inputs?

Product differentiation?

 

[JohnYang1997]

You mean D10d.
Question was for Behringer Monitor1.

Oh. I ...

 

[okMX]

Hi there,

if I wouldn't buy a monitor controller and I would just connect the device straight to my active speakers using XLR cables:
would it be a big problem if I would control the volume only in Windows 10 (from 0 to 100), additionally, would it be a big degradation in terms of audio quality?

 

[Atratusnex]

Hi there,

if I wouldn't buy a monitor controller and I would just connect the device straight to my active speakers using XLR cables:
would it be a big problem if I would control the volume only in Windows 10 (from 0 to 100), additionally, would it be a big degradation in terms of audio quality?

Digital audio volume control over windows will impair the quality somewhat (should be better if you use foobar/ wasapi and volume control over foobar). But it will be marginal and most likely inaudible.