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Topping B200 Monoblock Amplifier Review

Rate this amplifier:

  • 1. Poor (headless panther)

    Votes: 12 2.5%
  • 2. Not terrible (postman panther)

    Votes: 11 2.3%
  • 3. Fine (happy panther)

    Votes: 56 11.8%
  • 4. Great (golfing panther)

    Votes: 394 83.3%

  • Total voters
    473
My gut tells me the Apollon but am I missing something special here by not getting the B200's

Thanks

Peter
Your gut is right. It is a no brainer to me. You've listed all the topping warranty issues - and no, you won't hear the difference between 90+db and 120dB Sinad - not with speakers - and definitely not in real world listening. Even if you had young ears.
 
I have been an audiophile for 45 years and have been running balanced for 30 years... when I was spinning vinyl my cartridge was wired for balanced output into a balanced phone stage... I only own XLR analogue cables.

Same here but only 25 years as I believed the bolox about only necessary for 'long cable runs' and 'noisy environments'.

I have B200 after using Benchmark AHB2, Hypex N-Core to feed my Quad ESL's.

Lowest possible added distortion is my mantra, as was Peter Walkers (Quad audio) that's why he spent over 20 years perfecting the 63's over the 57's.
That was back in the 1950's, though the modern Quad ESL's are near identical to the current range (panels are still interchangeable - luckily)

Each of my amplifier upgrades have produced sonic benefit's, and I prefer class A/B to class D, though i accept class D has moved on in the last 15 years.
To me Class D were less convincing in the mid/highs.

The only answer to your question however is to try the B200 and listen for yourself. Buy from Hi-Fi go and you can always sell them on later if they don't improve your system. Or Amazon and use the 30 day return.

I also use Topping preamp (5 years old - no issues, apart from the tempramental remote control) and a Topping DAC.
Turntable is a Pro-Ject Xtension with a 12" 'The Wand' arm (from your country :) ) with a Cadenza Black hanging off it, fed into a four box Paradise phono stage.
 
Your gut is right. It is a no brainer to me. You've listed all the topping warranty issues - and no, you won't hear the difference between 90+db and 120dB Sinad - not with speakers - and definitely not in real world listening. Even if you had young ears.
Indeed and pulled the trigger on them (Apollon) today.

So now I wait for the build to complete and then start the anxious, nail biting wait/tracking.

Maybe 6 months ago I order some audio stuff from the the UK via UPS. It went to three airports in the UK, then LA then St. Louis then Memphis then Hawaii then Sydney OZ then a city in NZ then the closest city to me then a hand off to a local courier who then handed it off to the rural delivery service.

No doubt the trip from Slovenia will be as bad.

Peter
 
Same here but only 25 years as I believed the bolox about only necessary for 'long cable runs' and 'noisy environments'.

well for me it wasn't about long cable runs, it was:

1- I like the solid connection an XLR makes
2- At 4v you get a better signal to noise ratio than RCA
3- when vinyl was a main source (I am all ripped CD's/computer based now), running a cartridge as a balanced generator (it's best config) meant the downstream gear needed to be balanced.

Peter
 
Hi there,
First of all, I would like to sincerely thank Amir, as he has truly transformed my musical world. I’ve owned many different audio setups and listened to numerous amplifiers over the years. Among those that I loved and have kept to this day, I’d mention the immortal NAD 3020, the very pleasant Rega Mira 3, and the excellent Denon 1500AE. For over a year now, I’ve also owned the Topping LA90, which I purchased encouraged by Amir’s review. I use it in my office paired with KEF LS50s; I absolutely love its sound, but listening at work has its limits—I can’t really crank up the volume or fully concentrate on the music. What captivated me about it is the level of detail. It’s a remarkably clean-sounding amplifier that brings a lot of joy by allowing you to hear all the little nuances, even in dense musical arrangements.

My main home setup consists of a Cambridge Audio 851C and Monitor Audio Gold 300s. It sounded nice and clean, and I wasn't planning on any changes at all, until I stumbled upon another intriguing review by Amir describing the Topping B200.

I bought two units, added a Topping D90 III Sabre to the mix, and after more than a month of testing, I decided to thank Amir and share my impressions. I am incredibly impressed by how clean and detailed these small "bricks" sound. On albums I’ve known for over 30 years, I’ve been discovering details that previously either didn't cut through the musical background or simply didn't resonate clearly enough. Often, the better the equipment, the more albums from one's collection get discarded because poor production becomes too obvious. That is not the case here. Even weaker recordings sound enjoyable and engaging. The soundstage is vast, there’s plenty of detail, beautiful highs, and great bass. After a few trials, I settled on the high-gain setting. This configuration suits me better—it’s louder, the bass is more pronounced, and the dynamics are improved.

I owe you an update, as there have been some changes to my setup that have significantly overhauled my initial impressions.

Driven by curiosity, I connected a different pair of speakers to the power amps: the KEF R3. I know them well and highly value them for the quality and delicacy of their high frequencies. To my surprise, I discovered two things:
1. While the highs on the R3 are excellent and subtle, they lack the resonance of the ribbon tweeters in the Monitor Audio Gold 300 6G. On the MAs, the drum cymbals ring out beautifully, as if they were right there in the room. On the KEFs, that sensation disappears. Don’t get me wrong—it’s still excellent, but the liveliness of the presentation is lower.
2. Much to my astonishment, the KEF R3 provided more bass than the MA. This puzzled me, and after a bit of digging, I discovered that both bass reflex ports on my MAs were plugged. That’s how they were set up with my previous amplifier, and I had simply forgotten about it.

I immediately reconnected the MAs to the Topping B200. Oh my God! What a difference. So much bass—almost too much. Since the MAs have two ports each, I settled on keeping the bottom one plugged while leaving the top one open.

And now for the most important part: after restoring the bass to my MAs, I switched the amplifiers back to Low Gain mode. The difference is massive. The accuracy and detail are staggering, but above all, the decay and resonance of the instruments—cymbals, acoustic guitar—it’s a completely different level of quality.

That’s why I’m correcting what I wrote earlier. I was listening on High Gain because I felt I was lacking bass. Now that the bass reflex ports are unplugged and the low end has returned, I sincerely recommend listening on Low Gain instead. For me, it’s like having a completely new amplifier. I didn’t spend a penny, yet I’m getting that "new gear" joy all over again! :)
 
I owe you an update, as there have been some changes to my setup that have significantly overhauled my initial impressions.

Driven by curiosity, I connected a different pair of speakers to the power amps: the KEF R3. I know them well and highly value them for the quality and delicacy of their high frequencies. To my surprise, I discovered two things:
1. While the highs on the R3 are excellent and subtle, they lack the resonance of the ribbon tweeters in the Monitor Audio Gold 300 6G. On the MAs, the drum cymbals ring out beautifully, as if they were right there in the room. On the KEFs, that sensation disappears. Don’t get me wrong—it’s still excellent, but the liveliness of the presentation is lower.
2. Much to my astonishment, the KEF R3 provided more bass than the MA. This puzzled me, and after a bit of digging, I discovered that both bass reflex ports on my MAs were plugged. That’s how they were set up with my previous amplifier, and I had simply forgotten about it.

I immediately reconnected the MAs to the Topping B200. Oh my God! What a difference. So much bass—almost too much. Since the MAs have two ports each, I settled on keeping the bottom one plugged while leaving the top one open.

And now for the most important part: after restoring the bass to my MAs, I switched the amplifiers back to Low Gain mode. The difference is massive. The accuracy and detail are staggering, but above all, the decay and resonance of the instruments—cymbals, acoustic guitar—it’s a completely different level of quality.

That’s why I’m correcting what I wrote earlier. I was listening on High Gain because I felt I was lacking bass. Now that the bass reflex ports are unplugged and the low end has returned, I sincerely recommend listening on Low Gain instead. For me, it’s like having a completely new amplifier. I didn’t spend a penny, yet I’m getting that "new gear" joy all over again! :)
Gain does not impact bass as long as input levels are adjusted by the same (but opposite) amount as the gain change.
 
Hello all:) . Excellent review. So much info here. I was wondering if someone could help me? I am seriously considering buying 2 of the B200's, but i am so confused . On Amazon it shows 3 diff listings for the B200's and even diff prices. When i asked Rufus(AI Bot) in amazon which ones were for use in North America 120 Voltage it could not give me a exact 100% answer and all the info in the description dont seem to give me a straight answer either. Does the power brick work automatically on 120 V and 240V? . Of course the last thing I wanna do is buy the 240V and have to deal with the hassle of sending them back to Amazon. Please any help would be very much welcomed. Thank you so much all.
 
Hello all:) . Excellent review. So much info here. I was wondering if someone could help me? I am seriously considering buying 2 of the B200's, but i am so confused . On Amazon it shows 3 diff listings for the B200's and even diff prices. When i asked Rufus(AI Bot) in amazon which ones were for use in North America 120 Voltage it could not give me a exact 100% answer and all the info in the description dont seem to give me a straight answer either. Does the power brick work automatically on 120 V and 240V? . Of course the last thing I wanna do is buy the 240V and have to deal with the hassle of sending them back to Amazon. Please any help would be very much welcomed. Thank you so much all.

The power brick is rated 100 to 240 V input, it's just the plug head that is specific to your region.

Try HI-FI go if you wish for a better price, though returns are less easy.
 
The power brick is rated 100 to 240 V input, it's just the plug head that is specific to your region.

Try HI-FI go if you wish for a better price, though returns are less easy.
Thank you so much for responding. Ok so i would have to check if the actual plug head is for NA .
 
unless you're in dire straits...wait for a sale is my advice or should I say my $0.02.
 
@misterdog I saw earlier in the thread that you got a B200 pair to compare with AHB2. How do you think they compare? I am on the fence between getting a B200 pair vs a Purifi EVAL6. Thanks!
 
@misterdog I saw earlier in the thread that you got a B200 pair to compare with AHB2. How do you think they compare? I am on the fence between getting a B200 pair vs a Purifi EVAL6. Thanks!
Would you be using the ABH2 bridged? What speakers and how far do you sit from them? The Benchmark has a long and successful track record and is built like a tank, that's the non technical, sorta, side of things. :)
 
Would you be using the ABH2 bridged? What speakers and how far do you sit from them? The Benchmark has a long and successful track record and is built like a tank, that's the non technical, sorta, side of things. :)
I'm not considering the AHB2 - it's a bit out of my budget. I'm gonna drive the F228be and listening from 15-20ft away with sub. Currently using a Wiim Amp Ultra and wonder what I'm missing, so planning on getting either B200 or EVAL6.
 
I'm not considering the AHB2 - it's a bit out of my budget. I'm gonna drive the F228be and listening from 15-20ft away with sub. Currently using a Wiim Amp Ultra and wonder what I'm missing, so planning on getting either B200 or EVAL6.
I'd go with the Purifi, personally, if you listen at or above moderate levels. If you're not having any issues with the WiiM I doubt you're gonna hear a difference with the other two. The ABH2 (IK you're not considering just thought I'd mention it)will have a distortion advantage above 1khz.
 
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I am a Topping amp fanboi.
Would get either a LA90 Discrete or B200. Do not own either.
Apos has the B200 on sale right now. Would get the B200 over the switching amplifier, just because.
 
I am a Topping amp fanboi.
Would get either a LA90 Discrete or B200. Do not own either.
Apos has the B200 on sale right now. Would get the B200 over the switching amplifier, just because.
You won't regret getting the B200's. They have a, dare I say it, "sweetness" that I didn't hear from the SMSL PA-X GanFET amp I used before it. And while I am currently toggling between "home-built" IcePOWER 2000AS2-HV and the Hypex Nilai 500 modules (in a dual-mono configuration), both of which offer a tremendous amount of Class-D power, neither has the sweetness of the B200. Having said that, what's keeping me from going back to the Topping's is the sheer control the DIY amps have over my main speakers (Eminent Tech LFT-8b's).

Enjoy the journey!
 
You won't regret getting the B200's. They have a, dare I say it, "sweetness" that I didn't hear from the SMSL PA-X GanFET amp I used before it. And while I am currently toggling between "home-built" IcePOWER 2000AS2-HV and the Hypex Nilai 500 modules (in a dual-mono configuration), both of which offer a tremendous amount of Class-D power, neither has the sweetness of the B200. Having said that, what's keeping me from going back to the Topping's is the sheer control the DIY amps have over my main speakers (Eminent Tech LFT-8b's).

Enjoy the journey!
I'm lucky I didn't hear any difference between PA5 II+ and LA90, so I sold the latter. Played at moderate levels for months..
 
You won't regret getting the B200's. They have a, dare I say it, "sweetness" that I didn't hear from the SMSL PA-X GanFET amp I used before it. And while I am currently toggling between "home-built" IcePOWER 2000AS2-HV and the Hypex Nilai 500 modules (in a dual-mono configuration), both of which offer a tremendous amount of Class-D power, neither has the sweetness of the B200. Having said that, what's keeping me from going back to the Topping's is the sheer control the DIY amps have over my main speakers (Eminent Tech LFT-8b's).

Enjoy the journey!
How much current does B200 provide?
 
How much current does B200 provide?
It depends on the load impedance. Also, Topping's specifications state that the measurements for the specifications were made using 220VAC/50Hz for the mains power. If you have different mains power, as we do in the U.S., the output power may be a little lower. In the first post in this thread Amir lists output power for different load impedances, presumably using 120VAC/60Hz. From those measurements you can compute the current as I=(P/Z)^0.5.
 
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