Topping B200 Monoblock Amplifier Review

[globadyne]

Probably not.
If I would want a sonic upgrade, I would look at adding a subwoofer.
Measuring your current system with rew and applying eq with roon is also an idea to try.

I used to have a sub wasnt a fan - Room isnt super large and it added boom

I have a convolution filter applied but need to optimize in REW

 

[globadyne]

wow your speakers are bit more $ than I expected

The way it sounds depends on how it interacts with the amp- not sure if impedance dips enough to make a difference as yours are rated at 8ohms so should be fine

interesting article

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Ye PMC are costly
I got them as a dealer trade in so the cost was siginificantly better than list

Monoblocks and the idea of em appeal is all - system sounds exectional now but like anyone was curious if for a realtively low cost improvments could be made

 

[misterdog]

I think so too.

AMPs with significant feedback (the B200 uses very large feedback, according to its distortion coefficient) aren't stable enough, especially at the extremes of the operating frequency range. And my main listening system has JBL4429 speakers, whose impedance drops below 4 ohms at 20 kHz.

Therefore, the B200 is out of the running.

Though the current/power required to drive tweeters at 20 Khz is considerably lower than trying to drive woofers at 20/100 Hz so maybe not out of the running.

Maybe ask Topping directly, though the total equation is far more complex, listening room size, distance from speakers, SPL preference and others. Sometimes the only answer is, suck it and see science.
Which is my preference given my poor comprehension of physics and maths.

Every use case is different and unique, though many seem unable to see that.


I also purchased some B100 just to try with the zero gain setting.

It amused me to try £600 amplifiers with £13,000 loudspeakers with zero gain applied. Had I asked the 'consensus' of the forum I would never have tried it.

Very interesting results, with the mostly expected limitations.

 

[globadyne]

Though the current/power required to drive tweeters at 20 Khz is considerably lower than trying to drive woofers at 20/100 Hz so maybe not out of the running.

Maybe ask Topping directly, though the total equation is far more complex, listening room size, distance from speakers, SPL preference and others. Sometimes the only answer is, suck it and see science.
Which is my preference given my poor comprehension of physics and maths.

Every use case is different and unique, though many seem unable to see that.


I also purchased some B100 just to try with the zero gain setting.

It amused me to try £600 amplifiers with £13,000 loudspeakers with zero gain applied. Had I asked the 'consensus' of the forum I would never have tried it.

Very interesting results, with the mostly expected limitations.

Cheap amps with Expensive speakers almost makes you wonder if alot of Hifi is Pride of Ownership

 

[jmdesignz2]

Cheap amps with Expensive speakers almost makes you wonder if alot of Hifi is Pride of Ownership

My Buckeye NCX500 mono blocks do extremely well vs my McCormack DNA1 DLX mono blocks. But the MCs might benefit from a recap even though they’re driving my Aerial 10Ts pretty well right now

 

[mike70]

We need to repeat some "theorem" until boring to death:

"Hipothesis: two amps are working in their operational range (without clipping) and they have hifi construction (at least 80dB sinad, flat frequency response, good output impedance, etc etc)
Thesis: they will be indistinguishable in a proper blind test"

So, if the 2 amps you're considering have that hipothesis, you know the answer.
If they aren't... anything is possible.

We can do some more "theorems", like the fantastic way to assign soundstage properties to sources / amps, I mean, you can find audio druids everywhere.

ASR is "the cure", not only for your knowledge / peace of mind, also for your bank account. Because, remember, for that druids, everytime they find something really good... can't be less than 1k price tag.

 

[BeeKay]

Price is what you pay, not necessarily what level of quality you get. While there may be a correlation, it’s not a guaranteed thing.

When in doubt - listen, and don’t look.

 

[Adis]

Listening is overrated.

 

[BeeKay]

Listening is overrated.

Following TAS or SP, yes. Almost counterproductive.

 

[cfwotzka]

Though the current/power required to drive tweeters at 20 Khz is considerably lower than trying to drive woofers at 20/100 Hz so maybe not out of the running.

Maybe ask Topping directly, though the total equation is far more complex, listening room size, distance from speakers, SPL preference and others. Sometimes the only answer is, suck it and see science.
Which is my preference given my poor comprehension of physics and maths.

Every use case is different and unique, though many seem unable to see that.


I also purchased some B100 just to try with the zero gain setting.

It amused me to try £600 amplifiers with £13,000 loudspeakers with zero gain applied. Had I asked the 'consensus' of the forum I would never have tried it.

Very interesting results, with the mostly expected limitations.

mostly expected limitations, please explain

 

[KL....]

Though the current/power required to drive tweeters at 20 Khz is considerably lower than trying to drive woofers at 20/100 Hz so maybe not out of the running.

Thank you, perhaps @TOPPING can advise, but/perhaps have a look at Frequency Response of an amplifier or filter shows how the gain of the output responds to input signals at different frequencies

I think so too.

AMPs with significant feedback (the B200 uses very large feedback, according to its distortion coefficient) aren't stable enough, especially at the extremes of the operating frequency range. And my main listening system has JBL4429 speakers, whose impedance drops below 4 ohms at 20 kHz.

Therefore, the B200 is out of the running.

 

[Jiraya369]

Not switching, no high frequency penalty, audible noise and distortion a vague memory, very usable power output... I wonder what the subjectivist crowd will invent to avoid praising this amp... They'll really have to get creative this time.

"not musical"
"too analytical"
"does not open up my speakers like X amp does"

 

[BeeKay]

"not musical"
"too analytical"
"does not open up my speakers like X amp does"

"not holographic“