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Topping A900 released: insane beast

John Atkinson measured the input impedance of the Pre90. Amplifier input impedance is usually high - at least 10k ohms, and commonly 20k or 47k ohms. This is unusually low (presumably to eek out every dB of noise floor), and would cause problems with sources with high output impedance like the Denafrips Terminator and Ares.

The Pre90's unbalanced input impedance was 9.9k ohms at 20Hz and 1kHz and 9.6k ohms at 20kHz. The balanced input impedance was low, at 2k ohms from 20Hz to 20kHz, which might give a bass-light balance with source components that have a tubed output stage.

Topping do specify the input impedance of the A70 Pro (perhaps in response to the above), but no others that I've noticed:

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My guess is the A100 would be similar to the A70, as it shares an optimised "Tang ku la" three stage stage nested feedback amplifier.
 
John Atkinson measured the input impedance of the Pre90. Amplifier input impedance is usually high - at least 10k ohms, and commonly 20k or 47k ohms. This is unusually low (presumably to eek out every dB of noise floor), and would cause problems with sources with high output impedance like the Denafrips Terminator and Ares.



Topping do specify the input impedance of the A70 Pro (perhaps in response to the above), but no others that I've noticed:

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My guess is the A100 would be similar to the A70, as it shares an optimised "Tang ku la" three stage stage nested feedback amplifier.
It's a pity that Topping hides such an important spec of the preamp :/

All the other specs are awesome:
- all noise and crosstalk values,
- resistor based attenuation,
- unity gain (at L gain setting) on the fully balanced architecture.
- three balanced inputs in one chassis, etc.

I hope input impedance is better than the A70 Pro and the A900 is fully compatible with high output impedance DACs. My Denafrips Pontus 15th has: RCA at 2.0Vrms, 625 Ω, and XLR at 4.0Vrms, 1250 Ω.
 
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It's a pity that Topping hides such an important spec of the preamp :/
All the other specs are awesome:
- all noise and crosstalk values,
- resistor based attenuation,
- unity gain (at L gain setting) on the fully balanced architecture.
- three balanced inputs in one chassis, etc.
I hope input impedance is better than the A70 Pro and the A900 is fully compatible with high output impedance DACs. My Denafrips Pontus 15th has: RCA at 2.0Vrms, 625 Ω, and XLR at 4.0Vrms, 1250 Ω.

The other attribute it shares with the A70 (and the B100 as it happens) is low distortion at all frequencies.
THD is usually quoted at 1kHz and high load impedance, which gives the best case headline figure.
Sometimes it's quoted for 20Hz to 20kHz, or for low impedance, and those figures are always worse.
All Topping HP amps measure well, but the A70 and especially A100 are rare exceptions - they're good at any frequency and any load.

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Used to be a Topping product didn't come out without a review from Amir! This amp seems to be a game changer and there's nothing but a couple of reviews on it so far and no measurements or analysis done by users. Strange
 
Used to be a Topping product didn't come out without a review from Amir! This amp seems to be a game changer and there's nothing but a couple of reviews on it so far and no measurements or analysis done by users. Strange
True. But we already know it's going to have the best measurements of any HP amp ever.
I agree it would be good to see Amir test it.
Maybe it's in the queue.
 
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Used to be a Topping product didn't come out without a review from Amir! This amp seems to be a game changer and there's nothing but a couple of reviews on it so far and no measurements or analysis done by users. Strange
I own it and i'm using it, at least, for 2 to 4 Hours a days from 9/5/2025, with D90 III Discrete and a couple of cans: HD600 and DT880 (600 Ohms). I can't make and share scientifically proper measurements but i can offer, if you're interested, my personal (subjective) experience. Soundwise, it does a remarkable job, if not outstanding, in almost every aspects: details retrieval, dynamics, pitch black noise floor, stereo imaging, soundstage (maybe with little depth, especially on chamber and symphonic music, but i guess i need different pair of cans to perceive a better depth...), texture, but... in B/W. In comparison my SMSL H400 and, even better, my Proton AM455 Pro Integrated amplifier (this has an HP out) sounds richer: i guess the A900 lacks in harmonics richness... For the rest, it features lots of useful options (i like very much the possibility to memorize the volume for each individual output), and finally a remote that feels "premium". I've purchased it from topping store for about € 964 (they have made me an additional discount from the official discount week).
 
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I own the A900 and I am happy with such purchase. I am enjoying tons of detailes, neutral sound, and its massive power it delivers. I play solo instruments like cello and violin and even with headphones like Focal Utopia the sound very neutral and close to live performance. The A900 sounds amazing with whatever Dac you pair it with. I also have the D900 and I can confirm tbey both share the same DNA. I also used Fiio K17, and Chord Hugo with the A900.

I also own Chord Dave with Woo audio wa5. The topping 900 system are not less in enjoyment when compared to Dave +wa5. We are comparing $3k to $30k systems. They sound different but each brings something special.
 
I own the A900 and I am happy with such purchase. I am enjoying tons of detailes, neutral sound, and its massive power it delivers. I play solo instruments like cello and violin and even with headphones like Focal Utopia the sound very neutral and close to live performance. The A900 sounds amazing with whatever Dac you pair it with. I also have the D900 and I can confirm tbey both share the same DNA. I also used Fiio K17, and Chord Hugo with the A900.

I also own Chord Dave with Woo audio wa5. The topping 900 system are not less in enjoyment when compared to Dave +wa5. We are comparing $3k to $30k systems. They sound different but each brings something special.
A question for you regarding the D900, it has already had two new SW updates, has the update brought any changes to the sound quality?
 
A question for you regarding the D900, it has already had two new SW updates, has the update brought any changes to the sound quality?

I used it for a couple of hours and then did the updates. I did not hear diferances. It sounded great before and after. They mentioned what the updates fixes and I do not remember anything related to sound quality. One bug was fixed was the language selection keeps coming when you turn on the unit. That was fixed.
 
Topping flexing their muscles - this is completely gratuitous and completely unnecessary, and I completely love it. I must have one .... one day....
It makes no rational sense with the L70 and A70Pro already in the range, and with noise figures that are just as good, but the extra headroom seals it.
Topping must have felt the need to make a preamp that could drive the B100 at low gain (into 4 ohms at least).
It would also be able to drive all those low-gain, low-input-impedance Hypex and Purifi amps directly, without a buffer.
The A900 generates 21.2 Vrms at 600Ω and holds it all the way down to 32Ω, and only drops 11% to 18.8V into 16Ω, which is even better load tolerance to the A70Pro (18%).
I wonder what the input impedance is? The Pre90 was anomalous at just 2kΩ , but the A70Pro was better at 20kΩ.
I agree about quoting Vpp figures instead of Vrms. Very annoying. Who does that?
The reason I'm so keen on headphone amplifiers like this is they also make good pre-amps. I think preamps are rather under-rated, and there aren't that many good ones. You can pay a lot of money for a preamp, if you want to.

They're particularly good for Topping, Benchmark, Hypex and Purifi amplifiers that have (optional) low input sensitivity and sometimes low input impedance (
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1kΩ). They need a preamp or buffer stage with high output voltage, and preferably low output impedance and high current delivery. And adequate audio envelope and fidelity not to compromise the performance of the amp.

It's a tall order, but I suspect many buffer stages (even the expensive ones) drag the amplifier down slightly.
Amir has tested several amps at different sensitivity / gain settings, and they all perform best at low gain.

To get a handle on the requirements and achievements of actual buffers, I used data from Purifi tests to generate a system model.
The model has three stages - the source, the buffer, and the power amp.
I treated each stage as an amplifier, with an input voltage, gain, output voltage, and noise and distortion that it adds to the source and feeds to the power amp.

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In the spreadsheets, the shaded cells are the input parameters, the orange ones are the variables, and the green one is the output.
To model the tests I supposed the source was an APx555 analyser with an imaginary clean input signal of 1V, plus 12.5dB gain and 1µV noise (DNR 132dB).
The power amp was a 1ET400 with no buffer, 12.8dB gain and 6.6µV noise (DNR 136dB).
By modelling the buffer with 7dB gain and 5.3µV noise, I got the end result to match Amir's amplifier tests at high gain.
Although every stage contributed to the end result, the buffer had a DNR of 125dB, and was clearly the bottleneck in the system.
Alternatively, you can see in the buffer the internal noise dominates the signal noise, yet in the amp the signal noise dominates it's internal noise.
The end result is a system DNR of 124dB (still really good) but limited by the buffer.

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I then modelled the preamp as a Topping A70Pro with 7dB gain and (pessimistically) 1µV noise (DNR 139dB)
This time, the overall system DNR is increased from 124 to 130dB.
The signal noise dominates the internal noise in the preamp, and the amplifier output noise is halved compared with the buffer.
Every stage contributes to the end result, but now the system performance is predominantly constrained by the source.
I also performed the same analysis with THD+N, but the conclusions are simpler and clearer by just considering noise.

The expensive Sparkos, Sonic Imagery or Weiss discrete op-amps measure no better than good integrated solutions, and cost hundreds more.
That money could be spent on a good headphone / preamp like the L30, L50 or A70, and get better performance.
I recently did a money-no-object model with a Topping D900 / A900 combo and 1ET9040 amp, and got an even better result:

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I'm still waiting for input impedance data. However, I have already added A900 to the audio line and am very impressed with its functionalities. Regarding the sound quality, it's truly transparent but I have feelings that the scene opens even more.
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Must be a bit of a nuisance having to move everything when you want to chop some carrots?
Keith
 
It can fry your headphone...
 
Must be a bit of a nuisance having to move everything when you want to chop some carrots?
Keith
Heh :) You are right! It lost a chopping board function permanently ;)

But works perfectly as an additional weight for the vibration separator that outperforms many commercial solutions!
 
It can fry your headphone...
My smaller vintage 'un-bridged' power amp has a headphone socket directly connected to the speaker outputs and it was often used in studios for that purpose (maybe driving a chain of headphones, I don't know). The amp is quiet enough for this to be okay (it has gain controls) and they're available used for well under $200 these days, although used residuals are climbing. This one tested replaced it -

 
I own it and i'm using it, at least, for 2 to 4 Hours a days from 9/5/2025, with D90 III Discrete and a couple of cans: HD600 and DT880 (600 Ohms). I can't make and share scientifically proper measurements but i can offer, if you're interested, my personal (subjective) experience. Soundwise, it does a remarkable job, if not outstanding, in almost every aspects: details retrieval, dynamics, pitch black noise floor, stereo imaging, soundstage (maybe with little depth, especially on chamber and symphonic music, but i guess i need different pair of cans to perceive a better depth...), texture, but... in B/W. In comparison my SMSL H400 and, even better, my Proton AM455 Pro Integrated amplifier (this has an HP out) sounds richer: i guess the A900 lacks in harmonics richness... For the rest, it features lots of useful options (i like very much the possibility to memorize the volume for each individual output), and finally a remote that feels "premium". I've purchased it from topping store for about € 964 (they have made me an additional discount from the official discount week).
This is what I was looking for......a comparison to the S.M.S.L H400 which I own and am very impressed with. I would like to get this A900 but my experience with Topping QC is shaky.
 
This is what I was looking for......a comparison to the S.M.S.L H400 which I own and am very impressed with. I would like to get this A900 but my experience with Topping QC is shaky.
Many other people have the same problem with SMSL.
Which topping machines have you broken or had QC problems with?
 
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