Sjkrabbe
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No there is not always gabs between movements i classical - there is a lot of examples. Just for starters Beethoven symph #7 - no gab between third and fourth movement. Same thing in Symph #9 between 4th and 5th movement
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Sjkrabbe
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Agree - thats exactly why I ditched Spotify. last straw was all the fuss about AI generated music putting even more money into Spotify pockets. I chose Tidal as replacement and so far I´m happy about the swap
I have never encountered the issue. When the movements flows into each other, they do. When they don't, they don't.No there is not always gabs between movements i classical - there is a lot of examples. Just for starters Beethoven symph #7 - no gab between third and fourth movement. Same thing in Symph #9 between 4th and 5th movement
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I just checked the Sir Charles Mackerras/Scottish Chamber Orchestra performance of Beethoven's 5th on Tidal. There's an audible gap between the scherzo and finale.
Earlier you said that there's always a gap between movements in Classical music. There isn't.
What you're hearing is because you're either listening to physical media where the 'tracks' have been written in correctly, or you're listening to streaming on a platform that supports gapless. Result!
Trust me, if you ever listen to streamed albums on a platform that doesn't support gapless, very soon it'll drive you mad!
The OP specifically asked about alternatives to Spotify and stated that gapless is important to them. For that reason, I mentioned my personal experience with Deezer, and two platforms regarding the issue of gapless. I fully understand why the OP prioritises gapless, as I'm in full agreement as to its necessity.
Scottish chamber orchestra right?….audible gap between scherzo and finale?………They’d have popped out to the pub for a quick pint of tennants and a deep fried mars bar before heading back to finish what they started.
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Tried Spotify this morning, because they are currently offering two months of their premium service for $5.99. Using it for about 20 minutes on the Eversolo DMP-A6 settled the issue for me. Some of the tracks I play all the time sounded distorted to me when compared to the same tracks streaming on Amazon Unlimited. Worse, the app looks and works even worse than Amazon's (which is saying something). Qobuz, anyone?
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FYI (slightly OT): Not all CD players are gapless today either. I had to buy one a few years ago, when the one I had been using since the 90s gave up the ghost. I got a Denon in part because it was advertised as being gapless and I have never had an issue with it in that regard. I have a lot of the same releases on the original LP pressings and the existance and length of time of the gaps gaps seems to be exactly the same between the two. (Though I was not wild about the DAC that Denon used on my entry-level model, so I use an external one.)
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Okay, I'm not seeing anything like this on my A6 (Gen 2). Or on Amazon's website (under Music Library with the other options that you can set. Can you be more specific about where this menu exists ("Playback" under which menu, on which device?) Thanks.
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Just found this prior post & reply ...
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So in short, it depends on how you're accessing it."
Does it work on the Eversolo DMP-A6 Gen 2?
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It does via my Wiim Pro, yes, but not directly via my Yamaha network amp app. So the issue is not with Deezer, but with Yamaha in my case.
So in short, it depends on how you're accessing it."
Does it work on the Eversolo DMP-A6 Gen 2?
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This sums up Spotify perfectly. Really wish Quboz had a proper Connect feature and I would consider switching.
Some issues about Tidal: If you listen at Low Quality (mp3) the playback is not gapless. (this is because of the silence added when creating mp3 files)
When listening at High Quality (flac) there is no problem.
The search engine is not so good. For instance I searched Rick Wakeman --> all albums --> Journey to the Center of the Earth (1974 version) does not appear.
When I searched Journey to the Center of the Earth, I found it.
When listening at High Quality (flac) there is no problem.
The search engine is not so good. For instance I searched Rick Wakeman --> all albums --> Journey to the Center of the Earth (1974 version) does not appear.
When I searched Journey to the Center of the Earth, I found it.
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I read few complaints about Spotify's business practices. If we are talking about how "little" they pay artists (not anything else), then I don't think you can blame Spotify. I'm only chiming in here because I used to be in management consulting, so I work with a lot of business leaders and I feel the comments here are not sound and a bit delusionary on how businesses works.
Spotify charges $11.99USD for a individual plan. The user gets to stream as much as they like. If they streamed 100 times, each time for a different track. Then each artist gets $11.99/100, if the user streams 1000 times, then each artist gets paid $11.99/1000. This assumes Spotify not only makes no money but operates at a lost, but of course, Spotify is not a not-for-profit business, they have to cover their expenses and make money as they should.
According to news outlets, Spotify paid out $10B USD in royalties in 2024. and their total revenue is only $17B USD. Their net income is $1.3B USD, that is a low margin business if you ask me, only slightly better than a restaurant and a supermarket. And for a tech and media company, that is pathetic margin; as an investor, I would never ever invest in them.
Sure Spotify could change their business model to charge customers per stream. But tell me, how many of us will complain and how many of us will cancel our subscription? I know I will.
Stop blaming streaming services for how much less artists are making nowadays, it is a result of social trends, consumer behavior, technology and evolving business model. If you want to support your artists, buy a ticket to their show. If you don't want to stream and rather buy their CD's go do that.
Spotify charges $11.99USD for a individual plan. The user gets to stream as much as they like. If they streamed 100 times, each time for a different track. Then each artist gets $11.99/100, if the user streams 1000 times, then each artist gets paid $11.99/1000. This assumes Spotify not only makes no money but operates at a lost, but of course, Spotify is not a not-for-profit business, they have to cover their expenses and make money as they should.
According to news outlets, Spotify paid out $10B USD in royalties in 2024. and their total revenue is only $17B USD. Their net income is $1.3B USD, that is a low margin business if you ask me, only slightly better than a restaurant and a supermarket. And for a tech and media company, that is pathetic margin; as an investor, I would never ever invest in them.
Sure Spotify could change their business model to charge customers per stream. But tell me, how many of us will complain and how many of us will cancel our subscription? I know I will.
Stop blaming streaming services for how much less artists are making nowadays, it is a result of social trends, consumer behavior, technology and evolving business model. If you want to support your artists, buy a ticket to their show. If you don't want to stream and rather buy their CD's go do that.
I think at this point, regarding the OP getting gapless or not, it's clear that what's important is the player they're using ( in their case Eversolo) and not the streaming service.
They need to find out what streaming services Eversolo support with gapless, rather than what streaming services do gapless in general.
Spotify pays out .003 to .005 cents per stream, this does not take into account whether the majority of the money, up to 95% goes to the record label or others before the artist gets a cut.
Spotify sees itself as a media company publishing podcasts (paying rogan $300m to spout off bullshit to dumb f***s) or more recently audiobooks, the music side is an inconvenience as Daniel Ek has talked about.
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