THX cinema with pro cinema audio gear

[GXAlan]

Right, so judging from the 3D diagram of speaker layout you tell Trinnov exactly where each of your speakers are located in 3D space, the exact measurements away from listening position & angles? It then will mix the contents of your surround movie into those speakers in the best way it sees fit to maintain the correct intended 3D audio positioning? So you can just keep adding more speakers and putting them where you want (& telling it their location) up to the max amount that Trinnov supports and Trinnov then does all the processing?

Almost. YOU don’t have to tell it. The specialized quad microphone MEASURES it for you. Think “triangulation” but since it’s 3D, you need four measurements not three.

There are issues when it cannot measure things due to reflections, noise, etc. but yes. It’s the only setup that can distinguish between an LCR standing shoulder to shoulder 10 ft from MLP to one that is at Dolby reference locations, to one that is just ceiling speakers, etc. Other systems with mono mics only know distance.

3D Remapping does a lot of what you say. It clearly works better with Atmos dynamic objects than it does with fixed bed layer type stuff.

This is why Trinnov accounts for the big bucks.

Oh, and yes. You can add as many speakers as you want *within the context* of the model you buy. Altitude 16 is 16+4. Altitude 32 can be purchased with only 16 channels or can go up more.

Altitude CI is all digital and can go from 8-48 channels depending on what software license (need to double check those numbers)

 

[Robbo99999]

Almost. YOU don’t have to tell it. The specialized quad microphone MEASURES it for you. Think “triangulation” but since it’s 3D, you need four measurements not three.

There are issues when it cannot measure things due to reflections, noise, etc. but yes. It’s the only setup that can distinguish between an LCR standing shoulder to shoulder 10 ft from MLP to one that is at Dolby reference locations, to one that is just ceiling speakers, etc. Other systems with mono mics only know distance.

3D Remapping does a lot of what you say. It clearly works better with Atmos dynamic objects than it does with fixed bed layer type stuff.

This is why Trinnov accounts for the big bucks.

Oh, and yes. You can add as many speakers as you want *within the context* of the model you buy. Altitude 16 is 16+4. Altitude 32 can be purchased with only 16 channels or can go up more.

Altitude CI is all digital and can go from 8-48 channels depending on what software license (need to double check those numbers)

Excellent, very flexible system!

 

[Andysu]

just few more reconnected last night of the ( Lcs Rcs ) back surround arrays

i may connect the Cs ( centre middle back surround ) up later , had it doing matrix middle back surround few years ago with the denon 8500h

i may need to get some more JBL professional cinema 8330A , and figure out how where to place the other amplifiers in the rack ? roughly around 70 amplifiers in the home

22.1 ( 4 sub outputs plenty enough ) . 20 , 22.1.20 when i'm through with ( maybe , partly it ) or is it more like , 24 . 1 . 15 . 3 , , its technical THX cinema here , i maybe think thou awkward with where the extras of amplifiers should go , to adding extra mores for the ( matrix below floor surrounds ) which really adds fills in this , so called immersiveness or uniform sound coverage from floor to middle of the room to overhead on the ceiling

maybe x10 floor matrix surround zones , wow , it won't be a bubble of sound since that is washing up liquid and near impossible awkward to place around which last few seconds before it bursts , i get the idea sure

 

[Andysu]

Bear minus 3 with Melanie minus 4 snuggling together

 

[Andysu]

video VHS issue trinnov altitude 32 with its HDMI outputs
no issues with laserdisc
VHS issues no video to oled
VHS video okay on projector
swap the HDMI output cables around ( i see there is something on HDMI outputs are not " mirrored " ) video appears on oled but not projector , swap HDMI around again , well not pleased with this , trinnov

HDMI output 1


HDMI output 2

 

[Andysu]

HDMI output issue on trinnov altitude 32 was to do with the JVC VHS mode wasn't set like the other mode i use for laserdisc with ( up scale ) which was tuned off for JVC VHS , this had me confused for 2 hrs to figure it all out

i then set the HDMI from 1.4 back to HDMI 2.0 rebooted processor and it worked , so got make certain video up scale is switched On

 

[Andysu]

revenge of the pink panther 1978 , mono original mix , lucasfilm ltd THX sound system

 

[Andysu]

alien romulus 2024 Dolby Atmos , lucasfilm ltd THX sound system

 

[Andysu]

alien romulus ended up in the cat litter box for rubbish picture colour orange colours totally beyond annoying distracting to some woke trash movie , nope never again play it , looked like a dying xenon lamp , atmos mix no serious directional dialog panning all around dreadful , sound effects meh , music dreadful , cat litter this rubbish

thumbs down for picture
thumbs down for sound
thumbs down for rubbish movie just some woke for fanboys

 

[Andysu]

so is this what the new firmware update be like for the trinnov altitude 32 ? it does look a little simpler

yes adding more speaker arrays , important for Dolby Stereo CP200 for that flashback with theatrical mixes on laserdisc , the new layout stays on the same page , ( unlike at present got hop around menu pages ) stormaudio is a little easier , oh and also it appears the screen layout page is wider where's at present looks like 4:3 ratio and very awkward on the laptop where stormaudio uses a wider screen image , waiting for the new firmware release

Trinnov | Trinnov Unveils Major Altitude Update with New UI and Decoders

Discover Trinnov’s future Altitude update: a redesigned interface, updated immersive decoders, and a platform evolution—free for all Altitude16/32 users.

www.trinnov.com

 

[Andysu]

usually i could get a tape measure pushed though the drainage tube that is for all the inter-connecting-cables and speaker cables , but the tube is so crammed full now , so i got this , this should go though bit easier as i have few more cables to pull though , few more optical cables for ( PCM laserdisc ) all the Rt Lt Dolby Stereo cables are done ,

so should arrive later today

 

[Andysu]

braveheart 1995 Dolby digital AC-3 ( theatrical mix ) lucasfilm ltd THX sound system

ran few minutes from the THX laserdisc AC-3 , wow , trinnov altitude 32 has a quicker faster Dolby AC-3 digital codec chip where it just takes less than often 1/2 second for audio-lock on the AC-3 signal , where's with previous past AVR would take 1.5 seconds for AC-3 locked signal ( say when visual searching and resume play would take 1.5sec ) now its less than about , 1/2sec

ran movie on oled and laser projector at the same time to see if any video issues occurred has i noticed some issues with HDMI inputs i think to do HDDC and HDCC 22 ( 1.4 and 2.0 ) i seemed to have almost sussed it ( issues never happened on denon 8500 or stormaudio ) however i have noticed when using stormadio with denon 8500h for video/digital convention to HDMI output to stormaudio i noticed some laserdiscs had video-dropouts ( now with trinnov alt 32 i noticed the video signal on some stay stable ) star trek VI laserdisc opening titles is now stable

i ran brutal tests and not noticed any sound dropouts where's with stormaudio elite isp32 mk3 i noticed countless audio dropouts and if pausing laserdisc and resume play , no audio signal for AC-3 Dolby digital and same goes for dts ( where i would have to switch processor Off and back On again )

everyone else rants when using , kscape the signal delay of 7 seconds or 20 seconds ? well i guess if using rubbish like , kscape with near field mixes doesn't surprise me for an overpriced/rated hardware to store movies ? i prefer the discs or vhs tapes , laserdiscs with theatrical mixes so to get that cinematic flashback , newer movies don't excite me much anymore , older titles on uhd waste of time , just cheap tampered with near field mixes

the choir voices in the score end credits brings tears to my eyes , its the mixing and maybe choir voices or string movement that plays on the emotions ?
sound editing ( awarded win ) and sound tough choice back then but equally awarded with nominations

where , wallace after first battle with the score and pushes the sword into the ground that gets me with tears , i can hear detail in centre stage , ( gladiator 2000 where , maximus shoves a sword into the ground the crowed noise just masks the centre , ringing resonate sound of the sword ) even thou music score is fraction dB higher on stage L R i can still hear the sword with oomph and wallace walking away feeling satisfied of first victor win

the drum beat in the score before first battle building up the drama/tension sound like it was tapping on my ears


laserdisc miles better so what if image is SD so what its still easily watchable , given some rubbish now with HDR dolby vision some discs mastered look so dark like a dying xenon lamp
with braveheart i don't see any of that

hail AC-3 theatrical mixes on laserdisc

could have been more chapter stops , 22 chapters for a movie that is 2hrs 58 mins 178mins , maybe 60 chapters

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[Andysu]

such a huge big deal when comes to film exhibition presentation the THX TAP program

 

[Andysu]

just arrived new here for laserdisc

butch cassidy and the sundance kid 1969 , mono ( theatrical mix ) lucasfilm ltd THX sound system

not seen this watched yet , seen before 30 years ago maybe 45 years on p/s tv , well its here in scope 2.35:1 i view it later in THX sound system

Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid - Wikipedia

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Butch Cassidy - Wikipedia

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Sundance Kid - Wikipedia

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[Robbo99999]

alien romulus ended up in the cat litter box for rubbish picture colour orange colours totally beyond annoying distracting to some woke trash movie , nope never again play it , looked like a dying xenon lamp , atmos mix no serious directional dialog panning all around dreadful , sound effects meh , music dreadful , cat litter this rubbish

thumbs down for picture
thumbs down for sound
thumbs down for rubbish movie just some woke for fanboys

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Picture quality in terms of colours is going to come down to the "art style" the creators of the movie are aiming for. As long as you've got a calibrated screen then you'd be seeing the colours "as intended" - so that's something you either like or don't like as the style that they were aiming for. But, for the audio, you've got a really sorted system so I think you can assess how good that was done as audio formats and overall "technical audio quality" in my opinion are a significant technical quality aspect rather than just a stylised part of the movie, but of course at same time they're also in addition a stylised part of the movie.

 

[Andysu]

Picture quality in terms of colours is going to come down to the "art style" the creators of the movie are aiming for. As long as you've got a calibrated screen then you'd be seeing the colours "as intended" - so that's something you either like or don't like as the style that they were aiming for. But, for the audio, you've got a really sorted system so I think you can assess how good that was done as audio formats and overall "technical audio quality" in my opinion are a significant technical quality aspect rather than just a stylised part of the movie, but of course at same time they're also in addition a stylised part of the movie.

no more comment on this dreadful colour movie

 

[Andysu]

braveheart james horner score with LSO london symphony orchestra , some yamaha and JBL speakers visible in the video , james horner left too early

 

[Andysu]

a powerful written composed conducted score by late , james horner for braveheart 1995 that will tear you up at the end , " freedom ! " it tears me up

 

[Andysu]

koyaanisqatsi 1982 Dolby Stereo , lucasfilm ltd THX sound system

open matte 1.33:1
no bass slouch this went deep loud and vibrating feast of images with musical score by phillip glass , wow

 

[Andysu]

on her majesty's secret service 1969 , mono , luccasfilm ltd THX sound system

scope 2:35:1
mono mix sounded decent with centre mono stage plenty of bass and details in the mix and i say the same for the other bond movies with mono mix