THX cinema with pro cinema audio gear

[Andysu]

ordered additional DB25 XLR cable and two Neutrik AES DAC impedance converters , be a week so until i have , trinnnov +4 up and running

 

[Andysu]

thinking of installing furthermore additional JBL professional cinema 8330 mkI/mkII sidewall front wide LR and 8330A overhead surrounds of maybe up to

so i'm thinking additional JBL 8330A ceiling and re-plugging the other JBL as i may keep same positions or have maybe re-positioned so thinking of x17 on the ceiling ( maybe ? ) so it look like an " overhead sonic whole " , i have to figure out additional matrix decoders and a few more additional amplifiers in the amplifier rack ? as it would use the same ( DOG channels ) this may not happen for a month or two as i need get some hired hand due to health issues , it should only take a day to do the new install

 

[Robbo99999]

thinking of installing furthermore additional JBL professional cinema 8330 mkI/mkII sidewall front wide LR and 8330A overhead surrounds of maybe up to

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so i'm thinking additional JBL 8330A ceiling and re-plugging the other JBL as i may keep same positions or have maybe re-positioned so thinking of x17 on the ceiling ( maybe ? ) so it look like an " overhead sonic whole " , i have to figure out additional matrix decoders and a few more additional amplifiers in the amplifier rack ? as it would use the same ( DOG channels ) this may not happen for a month or two as i need get some hired hand due to health issues , it should only take a day to do the new install

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Holy hell, don't you get perfect location of individual sounds with how you have it already? You'd think the processor could just balance the relative sound between them to precisely locate sounds inbetween the various speakers. I mean it does that already, so I'm surprised that's not enough speakers.

 

[Andysu]

Holy hell, don't you get perfect location of individual sounds with how you have it already? You'd think the processor could just balance the relative sound between them to precisely locate sounds inbetween the various speakers. I mean it does that already, so I'm surprised that's not enough speakers.

well sound thou its still fabricated mixed recorded and real sound has no boundaries , the additional will focus additional newer channel/speakers with pinpoint positions ( theoretically )
you should hear , " gravity " 2013 with five screen speakers , wow foley effects in some Lc Rc , directional dialog moving across the screen channels , additional ( Lsc Rsc ) i have to improvise and locate the speakers fairly close above the screen/ceiling between ( Lc and C and C and Rc ) a bit tricky , but i'm not downscale the JBL 4673A five screen ,
seven 7 screen speakers is a must

still there is additional sound that should be in-between middle of the room a sort of ( multi zone phantom stereo imaging ) with the below floor surrounds

 

[Andysu]

rack a few years ago

rack more less present but may go though slight alteration for additional matrix decoders and amplifiers ,, total amplifiers around x70 if i repair the fault on the other amplifier that would have to be stripped down locate the part number order new part and solder it in or get a few more additional small 1u frame as don't need too much amplifier power

 

[Robbo99999]

well sound thou its still fabricated mixed recorded and real sound has no boundaries , the additional will focus additional newer channel/speakers with pinpoint positions ( theoretically )
you should hear , " gravity " 2013 with five screen speakers , wow foley effects in some Lc Rc , directional dialog moving across the screen channels , additional ( Lsc Rsc ) i have to improvise and locate the speakers fairly close above the screen/ceiling between ( Lc and C and C and Rc ) a bit tricky , but i'm not downscale the JBL 4673A five screen ,
seven 7 screen speakers is a must

still there is additional sound that should be in-between middle of the room a sort of ( multi zone phantom stereo imaging ) with the below floor surrounds

Do you have less speakers than the various required standards for various cinema standards? I kind of feel that you've surpassed the minimum number required for the various standards? Or can you just keep adding more speakers beyond the accepted standards for better results?

Is it Atmos that is supposed to be totally flexible in pinpointing sound in a 360 sphere around you? Something in my head says that you can have as many speakers as you want with Atmos as long as you tell it where the speakers are? I know you don't like Atmos, but those are some vagaries I have in my brain about that when I was researching it re video gaming. (I don't know if all surround sound cinema standards let you have as many speakers as you want, I don't think they do).

 

[Andysu]

Do you have less speakers than the various required standards for various cinema standards? I kind of feel that you've surpassed the minimum number required for the various standards? Or can you just keep adding more speakers beyond the accepted standards for better results?

Is it Atmos that is supposed to be totally flexible in pinpointing sound in a 360 sphere around you? Something in my head says that you can have as many speakers as you want with Atmos as long as you tell it where the speakers are? I know you don't like Atmos, but those are some vagaries I have in my brain about that when I was researching it re video gaming. (I don't know if all surround sound cinema standards let you have as many speakers as you want, I don't think they do).

i think you forgot about Dolby Stereo days i won't explain i would in a video if you watch my channel ? get a pioneer laserdisc player a Dolby Stereo CP200 and you'll be set up for star wars originals , 90% laserdisc here 10% dvd , 1% blu/uhd , streaming 0.1%

 

[GXAlan]

You are one of the only people with a setup like yours to compare *theatrical THX* with reference laserdiscs against modern Trinnov algorithms. Any comments on the subjective experience?

As much as you don’t do streaming or modern movies, you should try Andor Season 2, Episode 1. The opening action scene is a superb sound demo.

 

[Andysu]

You are one of the only people with a setup like yours to compare *theatrical THX* with reference laserdiscs against modern Trinnov algorithms. Any comments on the subjective experience?

As much as you don’t do streaming or modern movies, you should try Andor Season 2, Episode 1. The opening action scene is a superb sound demo.

disney star wars is boycotted , although you've given an idea to see if i can program the same format i had stormaudio for w/s movies ,, ( narrow three screen ) so screen speakers fit the projected image size , , i see just how clever " algorithms " are with the trinnov so far not too bad

theatrical mixes only

waterworld THX/TAP dts must be high on the list , with a lot , lot , lot more to it besides all that , ( watch image and listen to the visual sound continuities and then think way , way , way beyond all that a lot , lot , lot more besides all that )

can't hear it here as cameras microphones ain't all that clever like how the ears/mind maps the sound directions ( not like how manufacturers programmed you or others )
most only set up there trinnon's ( but that's up to them ) why have a processor that's offering what it can or can't do and only use less of it ? and extend extra matrix decoders for steering so it goes as possible further . . . ?

if the room was only a little bit larger

i have a new idea that i keep under my hat for now , highly classified top secret ( if its gonna be possible to fit in )


" Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic "

Magic
a new surround sound envelopment has occurred , we'll keep you updated on any newer further surround developments
this is Magic mission surround control

 

[Andysu]

best use of multi directional foley/effects and dialogue that i have heard/listened to in 45 years and i doubt there be another movie mix that will surpass " gravity " in the next 20 years , " gravity " is thee benchmark Dolby Atmos demo period , the whole 91 mins

 

[Robbo99999]

i think you forgot about Dolby Stereo days i won't explain i would in a video if you watch my channel ? get a pioneer laserdisc player a Dolby Stereo CP200 and you'll be set up for star wars originals , 90% laserdisc here 10% dvd , 1% blu/uhd , streaming 0.1%

I did try watching one your videos once and it went on for hours (I didn't watch it for hours), not something I could watch. I was just hoping for a few quick short informative nuggets of text information when I ask you questions.

best use of multi directional foley/effects and dialogue that i have heard/listened to in 45 years and i doubt there be another movie mix that will surpass " gravity " in the next 20 years , " gravity " is thee benchmark Dolby Atmos demo period , the whole 91 mins

I only saw this in stereo on my TV, albeit equilateral triangle with JBL 308p speakers and subwoofer, and I thought that was a fantastic experience sound wise, so I can totally see how good that would be on a proper surround system.

 

[Andysu]

I did try watching one your videos once and it went on for hours (I didn't watch it for hours), not something I could watch. I was just hoping for a few quick short informative nuggets of text information when I ask you questions.

I only saw this in stereo on my TV, albeit equilateral triangle with JBL 308p speakers and subwoofer, and I thought that was a fantastic experience sound wise, so I can totally see how good that would be on a proper surround system.

there is a feature on the trinnov i not explored checked out to see what it sounds like or how or what makes it sound the way it does ?
Bl Bc Br , i get around to those later see what they can do and what else i can add onto it to expand it if its of any use for the front , maybe aliens mostly the drop-ship scene when its lowered into position and the air lock doors open lowered down and air lock doors closed sealed

aliens , THX/TAP Dolby Stereo in selected JBL professional THX cinema

 

[Robbo99999]

there is a feature on the trinnov i not explored checked out to see what it sounds like or how or what makes it sound the way it does ?
Bl Bc Br , i get around to those later see what they can do and what else i can add onto it to expand it if its of any use for the front , maybe aliens mostly the drop-ship scene when its lowered into position and the air lock doors open lowered down and air lock doors closed sealed


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aliens , THX/TAP Dolby Stereo in selected JBL professional THX cinema

Right, so judging from the 3D diagram of speaker layout you tell Trinnov exactly where each of your speakers are located in 3D space, the exact measurements away from listening position & angles? It then will mix the contents of your surround movie into those speakers in the best way it sees fit to maintain the correct intended 3D audio positioning? So you can just keep adding more speakers and putting them where you want (& telling it their location) up to the max amount that Trinnov supports and Trinnov then does all the processing?

 

[Andysu]

Melanie likes to lay on bed beside me , Bear he's interdependently laying elsewhere , i guess nearing autumn/winter cats like to snuggle up to their companion owners

 

[Andysu]

Right, so judging from the 3D diagram of speaker layout you tell Trinnov exactly where each of your speakers are located in 3D space, the exact measurements away from listening position & angles? It then will mix the contents of your surround movie into those speakers in the best way it sees fit to maintain the correct intended 3D audio positioning? So you can just keep adding more speakers and putting them where you want (& telling it their location) up to the max amount that Trinnov supports and Trinnov then does all the processing?

i have no idea i not ( tried any of those as of present/yet ) when i have the time and give it some bias listening to see what i think or maybe it only supported by certain digital codec ? or maybe manual matrix control for Dolby Stereo AC-3

 

[Andysu]

( just arrived ) a cable lead i may use ( XLR to 3.5mm jack ) connected to trinnov altitude 32 DB25 XLR out or may use test connect on stormaudio isp32 mk3 , to the pc computer REW room Eq wizard RTA

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[Andysu]

apocalypse meow in AC-3 THX ! theatrical sound mix that puts uhd atmos to shame

 

[Andysu]

soon to be tested , trinnov altitude 32 is only 80% connected up at present ( plus the rest of a lot , lot , lot more besides all that )
indiana jones and the last crusade 1989 THX/TAP six track Dolby Stereo stereo surrounds , lucasfilm ltd THX sound system

 

[Robbo99999]

i have no idea i not ( tried any of those as of present/yet ) when i have the time and give it some bias listening to see what i think or maybe it only supported by certain digital codec ? or maybe manual matrix control for Dolby Stereo AC-3

I was just trying to increase my understanding of the "framework" of how Trinnov worked. Are you saying you don't know how it works, or of course you know how it works surely, you're tweaking it to the nth degree right.

 

[Andysu]

I was just trying to increase my understanding of the "framework" of how Trinnov worked. Are you saying you don't know how it works, or of course you know how it works surely, you're tweaking it to the nth degree right.

getting slowly understanding with the unit , it is computer complex processor