• WANTED: Happy members who like to discuss audio and other topics related to our interest. Desire to learn and share knowledge of science required. There are many reviews of audio hardware and expert members to help answer your questions. Click here to have your audio equipment measured for free!

The world is a very funny place: current production vacuum tube stereo receiver (?!)

mhardy6647

Grand Contributor
Joined
Dec 12, 2019
Messages
11,373
Likes
24,582
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Tube-Radio...837252?hash=item421edffcc4:g:uaAAAOSwLGxfP5jn

or, if one prefers,
https://www.aliexpress.com/i/32997100088.html

1613767664297.png

1613767710667.png
 

maverickronin

Major Contributor
Forum Donor
Joined
Jul 19, 2018
Messages
2,527
Likes
3,310
Location
Midwest, USA
Maybe this sort of design will go up market and companies will start just mounting circuit boards directly to marble and granite plinths.
 

GGroch

Major Contributor
Forum Donor
Joined
Apr 7, 2018
Messages
1,059
Likes
2,053
Location
Denver, Colorado
No audio inputs (except for FM) kills the deal. External circuit board kills the kids.

(the specs do say: "The use of net cover design can prevent children from accidentally touching scalds and electric shocks."

Wouldn't an FM Radio with an external circuit board be prone to RF interference? Perhaps Danny Ritchie's speaker cables would solve this.;)
 
OP
mhardy6647

mhardy6647

Grand Contributor
Joined
Dec 12, 2019
Messages
11,373
Likes
24,582
In terms of RF exposure -- I don't think it's really all that different than, say, a Fisher 400.
In the 1950s and 60s, hifi components were typically sold sans enclosure; the enclosures were optional at extra cost.
The FM tuners in the Fishers, e.g., (including the entry level 400) worked... rather well actually. :)

1613829457998.png

(borrowed photo, obviously)
That said, the Fishers were all point to point wired, so a little bit better perhaps than the current item under discussion.

Richards400belowbefore by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
(a before photo below deck of a 400 I rehabbed some years back)

That said, companies like harman/kardon made FM tuners and stereo receivers with crude PC boards in the 60s -- and they worked OK, too. :)
hk, for better or worse, were "early adopters" of PC board construction in hifi.

1613829904901.png

(borrowed image)
Of course, I'd be a little leery of the quality and extent of the shielding in this current production "receiver".
... and... is it just me, or does this thing actually use IF transformers -- or have they simply disguised ceramic filters or other components under imitation/artifical IF transformer cans? I haven't seen full-sized IF transformers since... well... the days of the Fisher 400! ;)

As to kids and HV -- well... natural selection, you know? :confused::facepalm:
 

Gorgonzola

Major Contributor
Forum Donor
Joined
Jan 27, 2021
Messages
1,033
Likes
1,416
Location
Southern Ontario
Good grief. One wonders if the tubes actually work or whether they are just for a light show with s/s components doing the actual work, (all for US$300)? :oops:
 
OP
mhardy6647

mhardy6647

Grand Contributor
Joined
Dec 12, 2019
Messages
11,373
Likes
24,582
Good grief. One wonders if the tubes actually work or whether they are just for a light show with s/s components doing the actual work, (all for US$300)? :oops:
oooh, I hadn't even thought of that!

There are certainly precedents for such shenanigans. :rolleyes:
On the other hand, it does have enough tubes to be a stereo FM MPX receiver and an integrated preamp/amplifier.

One does note an odd blue glow in some of the images on the internet -- one wonders if they've put LEDs under some or all of the tubes, too?!
Who do they think they are? McIntosh?!?

;)
 

GGroch

Major Contributor
Forum Donor
Joined
Apr 7, 2018
Messages
1,059
Likes
2,053
Location
Denver, Colorado
In terms of RF exposure -- I don't think it's really all that different than, say, a Fisher 400.
In the 1950s and 60s, hifi components were typically sold sans enclosure; the enclosures were optional at extra cost.

True, but while the tubes on those old receivers were exposed without the optional enclosure, the wiring, caps, and other components were in the lower metal chassis right? I see the tuner in your photos is on top but it has a metal case. (edit, I do see the exposed tuner in the 2nd example).
A lot of modern tube amps have exposed tubes, this one has the circuit board exposed too. Am I mistaken on this? I am not an RF expert, but I used to restore old tube radios (mostly recapping). Many of them had exposed tuners, but and the wiring and other components were under a metal sub-chassis.

.....Also, it does look like a true tube amp to me...most hybrids have just 2-4 tubes.
 
OP
mhardy6647

mhardy6647

Grand Contributor
Joined
Dec 12, 2019
Messages
11,373
Likes
24,582
True, but while the tubes on those old receivers were exposed without the optional enclosure, the wiring, caps, and other components were in the lower metal chassis right? I see the tuner in your photos is on top but it has a metal case. A lot of modern tube amps have exposed tubes, this one has the circuit board exposed too. Am I mistaken on this?

.....Also, it does look like a true tube amp to me...most hybrids have just 2-4 tubes.
Yes, in the case of the Fisher -- but look at the business end of that hk tuner. Except for the front end, everything's out in the breeze, not unlike the Nobsound receiver. :)
 
OP
mhardy6647

mhardy6647

Grand Contributor
Joined
Dec 12, 2019
Messages
11,373
Likes
24,582
Oh, I should mention that the hk would've looked like that "new", too (in terms of the lack of shielding) -- based on the ones here :rolleyes:
 
OP
mhardy6647

mhardy6647

Grand Contributor
Joined
Dec 12, 2019
Messages
11,373
Likes
24,582
It is too bad that it has no other inputs (if indeed that's the case)! I hadn't realized that.

As to its dangerousness -- well, from my perspective, the danger it presents is strictly (trigger warning: terrible pun alert)
potential

:cool:
 
Top Bottom