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The Slow Death and Rebirth of Intel

Although this article dates back to early January, it feels as if Microsoft and PC makers are no closer to making a compelling case for AI-enabled PCs.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/barryc...ld-you-buy-one-in-2024-heres-the-ces-verdict/
While the Windows market share is huge, it's not monolithic, and I'm guessing that the segment representing AI-capable PCs is dwarfed by Apple.

But is even Apple currently making use of the NPUs built into their homegrown CPUs?

Perhaps the true value of onboard AI will be in useful but unflashy stuff, such as making our computers and online activities more secure.

As for Windows on ARM: Buy it if you like thin and light PCs that get great battery life, but not in anticipation of a mass x86-to-ARM migration.
 
JeffS7444 said:
Perhaps the true value of onboard AI will be in useful but unflashy stuff, such as making our computers and online activities more secure.
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Not a chance, in fact the opposite is true now that there are measures being taken to try and stem the deployments of AI guided traffic analysis. VPNs I believe are only now starting to attempt measures against this sort of surveillance frontier. And it's not a free lunch either, uses more data to obfuscate packet analysis and such.
 
in the old days I remember AMD was the upstart who were 10x smaller than Intel

and now you can see that Qualcomm is about twice the size of Intel and AMD is about 2.5x (if you want to beleive in market cap)

and Nvidia is of course 30x the size!

intel was the IBM of its age... no one got fired for recommending Intel
 
I remember when i5's were a great option for gaming and i7's were seen as top dog. Nowadays, i9s are top dogs but are always out classed by the next generation. I can't imagine paying all that money for a 12th gen i9 and then the next year comes and a 13th gen i7 matches it. I think the bigger punch is when people bought the hated 11th gen i9's (and the loved 10th gen i9's) and then 12th gen i9's came out the next year. The jump from DMI 3.0 to 4.0 was also another good punch. Although 12th gen to 14th gen owners suffered the punch of no bifurcation.

Although I made the same mistake, I bought a 5800X3D then the next year the 7800X3D came out. At that point, I almost went Intel again but AMD had better prices and Bifurcation support. I'm pretty thankful I did.
 
Well the recently released Intel Core Ultra CPU's apparently are a step up in energy efficiency and good performance. Also known as Lunar Lake cpu's. Some laptops are apparently getting 24 hour battery life with normal use according to reviewers. It also has the necessary speed for on board AI purposes.

It appears more or less competitive with the latest AMD and Snapdragon processors.

Not so good is Intel could not make these chips themselves. They had TMSC make them on their behalf until they get things up to speed to make later versions themselves.
 
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IMO Intel is here to stay. Not by virtue of being good, but being significant. They are obviously not doing well, but that could be fixed by many measures, internal or external. Even if not fixed, by virtue of being a US company and making usable chips, they will continue to exist. I guess the expression is too big to fall...
 
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