The Sigberg Audio SBS.1 speakers are actually large (concept explanation)

[EJ3]

That kind of refinforces my point, you didn't list midbass!

But my question was focused on what the advantages of a midbass driver brings to the listener, I think I know the answer, but it's an educated guess, and I think stupid questions might help @sigbergaudio clarify his products advantages.

I did list mid bass, just not directly:
Subtract 63.33 from 250 = 186.67 Hz is the top of mid bass.
Add 63.33 to 60 = 123.33 the bottom of mid bass.
Therefore:
Mid Bass would be 123.33 Hz to 186.67 Hz
So divide BASS region (190)/3 equal 63.33.
Subtract 63.33 from 250 = 186.67 Hz is the top of mid bass.
Add 63.33 to 60 = 123.33 the bottom of mid bass.
One can round a bit an get 125 Hz - 185 Hz as mid bass.
So 125 Hz- 185 Hz is mid bass (unless you round it differently).

 

[JohnnyNG]

There's a pretty big difference between buying a native system like this as opposed to purchasing "normal" speakers and high passing them, as the midbass / bass drivers in SBS.1 are a different type of driver...In total it sums up to just a huge difference that is hard to understand until you experience it.

You've explained it well but I think many aren't grasping the fundamental difference between the two approaches since it *looks* like two bookshelf speakers and a sub or two. If you're not trying to get deep bass out of the bookshelf, the drivers themselves can be much better at their job >90Hz than a high-passed woofer that was designed to make bass.

 

[sigbergaudio]

You've explained it well but I think many aren't grasping the fundamental difference between the two approaches since it *looks* like two bookshelf speakers and a sub or two. If you're not trying to get deep bass out of the bookshelf, the drivers themselves can be much better at their job >90Hz than a high-passed woofer that was designed to make bass.

Yes, that's exactly it. It's difficult to understand by just looking at the speakers, and unfortunaetly most people don't take the time to read much these days..

 

[JohnnyNG]

Yes, that's exactly it. It's difficult to understand by just looking at the speakers, and unfortunaetly most people don't take the time to read much these days..

I only recently had this revelation after experimenting (at a much more basic DIY level) with 12" "pro" woofers as midbass in an active 4-way and reading through your development threads helped immensely with my understanding. I also think that many underestimate that ~90-500Hz range in terms of punch and slam thinking it's more the sub range. So I guess the Manta is my holy grail now since it's all that + cardioid.