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The science behind the nearfield experience

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Hello forum!

This is my first time posting here but I've been reading reviews here for a couple of months now.

I started my audiophile journey a year ago with kanto oras and a sub8 hooked to my PC. I then switched to a passive setup with a pair of kef q150 and a douk audio a5 amp. Now I'd like to move the kefs to my living room to enjoy my movies and music there as well.

I want new speakers for my desktop and I've been looking reviews for the last couple of days. I almost pulled the trigger on a pair of ls50 meta, but my girlfriend told me to wait a little and make more research before buying even more expensive item than last time.

There are very few audio stores near my hometown, so trying new speakers is difficult. Plus I'm unsure about sellers honesty/knowledge.

I've been looking online, but decided to ask the pros too. Here I have a couple questions:

- Which attributes do I have to look for to determine that a speaker is great for 1m distance listening?

- Does active, passive or studio monitors make a difference for a nearfield experience?

- I do not understand everything about the reviews, mainly the graphs and waves. Is there a tutorial somewhere that could explain to me how to read them?

- Any snakeoil that I should avoid and tips/rules to follow?

Thanks for reading and have a great day
 
Which attributes do I have to look for to determine that a speaker is great for 1m distance listening?
1. Flat and smooth on-axis frequency response.
1.5... make sure you'll be happy with the bass extension if you are not getting subs.
2. Smooth off-axis response.
3. Drivers aren't too large or far apart.
4. (Arguably) Not a wide dispersion pattern (think 50 degrees)

My recs are Ascilab, Neumann, Genelec, Ascend, in your price range those brands have a lot of good options and it's hard to go wrong.

- Does active, passive or studio monitors make a difference for a nearfield experience?
Not per se. Studio monitors tend to be designed for near field listening, but other types of speaker can do the same things sonically. To a significant extent, the distinction between monitor and "home speakers" is more about aesthetics and types of connections than sound.
- I do not understand everything about the reviews, mainly the graphs and waves. Is there a tutorial somewhere that could explain to me how to read them?
Off the top of my head no, but there are books that can get you pretty far. The Audio Expert by Winer is a good all around primer. Amir has links in many reviews on how to read the graphs also.

My advice is to take your time and pay attention to the X-axis and give yourself a minute to think about what it's telling you. If the line goes up as power goes up, what does that mean? If the line goes down as frequency goes up, what does that imply? Etc. If you feel like you have a grip on what the vertical axis is / sounds like, then you just need to take a moment and think through how the measurement is made. If you don't feel that the Y-axis is intuitive to you, start by playing with some audio software to demonstrate it to yourself. Audacity is free and a good place to start messing around.

- Any snakeoil that I should avoid and tips/rules to follow
Just the usual - don't get sucked into believing that amps all have a secret character of sound that only shows up outside of blind tests and measurements. Same for DACs. Cables are pretty much all the same, don't waste money on fancy ones.

Lastly, definitely look into EQ for room correction, the improvement can be really major, as much as upgrading speakers.

Welcome to ASR!
 
Generally speaking, the weighting for "predicted in-room response" is not for nearfield (~1-1.3m) but I believe for ~2m midfield. The most crucial thing for nearfield is the axial and near-to-axial response, i.e. the Listening Window, and then below that is the off-axis behavior.


- I do not understand everything about the reviews, mainly the graphs and waves. Is there a tutorial somewhere that could explain to me how to read them?
Yes, actually. Erin from Erin's Audio Corner, another excellent reviewer, has a series.

 
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1.5... make sure you'll be happy with the bass extension if you are not getting subs.
On that note, nearfield listening means that you can get away with deeper tuning since level requirements aren't as stringent. Smaller speakers intended for hi-fi listening distances are likely to be a bit light on bass in order to conserve level handling.
2. Smooth off-axis response.
Though if there's any application where you can get away with uneven dispersion, it's in nearfield.
3. Drivers aren't too large or far apart.
Crossover frequency and order also play a role in that regard. Driver spacing may also put a limit on waveguide size, which in turn influences how low you can cross the tweeter.
4. (Arguably) Not a wide dispersion pattern (think 50 degrees)
I would argue the opposite, wider dispersion gives you more freedom of movement. Some semblance of controlled dispersion would still be desirable, of course.

Without nearfield use in ideally decently-treated spaces, constructions along the lines of the KRK RP8 and similar would not fly.

- Does active, passive or studio monitors make a difference for a nearfield experience?
Active speakers can implement high-order crossovers more easily, reducing the overlap between woofer and tweeter and as such the frequency range affected by moving around. They (along with simply powered speakers = onboard amplifiers followed by passive crossovers) also permit decoupling low frequency response from level handling, extending practical bass extension on smaller speakers. That's the sole reason the 3" class of desktop speakers exists at all.
On the downside, actives are more commonly afflicted by audible hiss. No power is wasted in passive crossovers for better or worse. (Entire threads have been filled discussing studio monitors with low to no perceptible hiss.)

Interfacing studio monitors to the PC can be a bit tricky unless you already have a DAC or audio interface with balanced outputs. Do your homework or else the setup may be plagued with annoying audible ground loop issues.
 
- I do not understand everything about the reviews, mainly the graphs and waves. Is there a tutorial somewhere that could explain to me how to read them?

In addition to Erin's excellent videos, Amir has a collection of videos here on this site:


You'll notice that these videos cover a great number of topics. IMO, it's a great resource.

Lastly, definitely look into EQ for room correction, the improvement can be really major, as much as upgrading speakers.

@kemmler3D has brought up an excellent point. If you are not yet familiar with equalization, these two posts will give you a good, basic idea how it works:


 
As already mentioned the biggest difference is that the direct response will be dominating vs. listening at larger distances. That means also that the stereo errors (comb filtering), e.g. the 1.8-2 kHz dip and 3-4 kHz peak will be more audible. In my personal view I would look for wide dispersion speakers, not having a dip in any direction in the same frequency region (1.8-2 kHz) and with a small dip 3-4 kHz. This is you use it for recreational purpose, if you are using the speakers for monitoring mixes, I think it matters less.
 
I would argue the opposite, wider dispersion gives you more freedom of movement. Some semblance of controlled dispersion would still be desirable, of course.
Yes, this is why I said "arguably" - a typical nearfield setup is probably a desk setup where the listening position is more or less fixed. So in that case wider dispersion won't benefit you as much. And it's usually said that if the dispersion is narrower you'll slightly minimize problems from sub-optimal room acoustics. So If the room is small and/or untreated I would at least consider the potential benefits of a narrower dispersion.

Your point is right but as always the devil is in the details, and then preference comes in, too.

Otherwise a hearty +1 to the rest of your comment. :)
 
On that note, nearfield listening means that you can get away with deeper tuning since level requirements aren't as stringent. Smaller speakers intended for hi-fi listening distances are likely to be a bit light on bass in order to conserve level handling.
Lastly, definitely look into EQ for room correction, the improvement can be really major, as much as upgrading speakers.

Along these lines, I find even simple tone controls can and shoud be used. Basically, you aren't pushing the speakers hard, so you have room to boost the bass (for example) to bring it up to levels of sound like large speakers can achieve.
 
These are the reasonings regarding design goals of "near field" monitors from Neumann.
From: https://www.neumann.com/en-us/serviceundsupport/file-finder
Search for: "FAQ for studio monitors: Acoustical and application answers, English"

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Additionally, the tweeter waveguide should limit vertical dispersion to narrow to minimize desktop bounces.
Search for: "FAQ for studio monitors: Specific product answers, English"

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Woah I wasn't ready to receive all this info so fast, many thanks to everyone!

I'll try to answer everybody


1. Flat and smooth on-axis frequency response.
1.5... make sure you'll be happy with the bass extension if you are not getting subs.
2. Smooth off-axis response.
3. Drivers aren't too large or far apart.
4. (Arguably) Not a wide dispersion pattern (think 50 degrees)

Off the top of my head no, but there are books that can get you pretty far. The Audio Expert by Winer is a good all around primer. Amir has links in many reviews on how to read the graphs also.

My advice is to take your time and pay attention to the X-axis and give yourself a minute to think about what it's telling you. If the line goes up as power goes up, what does that mean? If the line goes down as frequency goes up, what does that imply? Etc. If you feel like you have a grip on what the vertical axis is / sounds like, then you just need to take a moment and think through how the measurement is made. If you don't feel that the Y-axis is intuitive to you, start by playing with some audio software to demonstrate it to yourself. Audacity is free and a good place to start messing around.

I'll 100% have to understand the terms, I saw someone linking videos and threads by Amir and that will help for sure!

My recs are Ascilab, Neumann, Genelec, Ascend, in your price range those brands have a lot of good options and it's hard to go wrong.

Right now I don't have an exact budget per say, I saw an interesting video on youtube made by Andrew Robinson where he explained that he bought so much cheaper stuff instead of his grail and wasted twice the money it would have costed him and still didnt owned the speakers he wished for at the start.

I think I might try that, find my grail and put money asside to afford it instead of upgrading every now and then.

I'll certainly look into those companies.

Not per se. Studio monitors tend to be designed for near field listening, but other types of speaker can do the same things sonically. To a significant extent, the distinction between monitor and "home speakers" is more about aesthetics and types of connections than sound.

I have other expensive interests and having a pretty desktop is one of them. Aesthetics will also be important.

Just the usual - don't get sucked into believing that amps all have a secret character of sound that only shows up outside of blind tests and measurements. Same for DACs. Cables are pretty much all the same, don't waste money on fancy ones.

Lastly, definitely look into EQ for room correction, the improvement can be really major, as much as upgrading speakers.

Welcome to ASR!

Thanks @kemmler3D for the warm welcome and all your tips and tricks!



Generally speaking, the weighting for "predicted in-room response" is not for nearfield (~1-1.3m) but I believe for ~2m midfield. The most crucial thing for nearfield is the axial and near-to-axial response, i.e. the Listening Window, and then below that is the off-axis behavior.

Erin from Erin's Audio Corner, another excellent reviewer, has a series.

Hey thanks you for the links @dfuller . I cannot wait to learn, they will be very helpful!

On that note, nearfield listening means that you can get away with deeper tuning since level requirements aren't as stringent. Smaller speakers intended for hi-fi listening distances are likely to be a bit light on bass in order to conserve level handling.

I currently use a sub, plus when I bought my Q150 some were recommending to have an amp with a high pass filter, which I bought.

Active speakers can implement high-order crossovers more easily, reducing the overlap between woofer and tweeter and as such the frequency range affected by moving around. They (along with simply powered speakers = onboard amplifiers followed by passive crossovers) also permit decoupling low frequency response from level handling, extending practical bass extension on smaller speakers. That's the sole reason the 3" class of desktop speakers exists at all.
On the downside, actives are more commonly afflicted by audible hiss. No power is wasted in passive crossovers for better or worse. (Entire threads have been filled discussing studio monitors with low to no perceptible hiss.)

Interfacing studio monitors to the PC can be a bit tricky unless you already have a DAC or audio interface with balanced outputs. Do your homework or else the setup may be plagued with annoying audible ground loop issues.

I'm kinda sensitive to noises, I'd like to avoid any hissing whatsoever. To would be a deal breaker for me.
As for the DAC part, I currently own a JDS Labs Element IV for my headphones and use it as a DAC + EQ. It only has RCA output though.

Thank you for your help @AnalogSteph

As already mentioned the biggest difference is that the direct response will be dominating vs. listening at larger distances. That means also that the stereo errors (comb filtering), e.g. the 1.8-2 kHz dip and 3-4 kHz peak will be more audible. In my personal view I would look for wide dispersion speakers, not having a dip in any direction in the same frequency region (1.8-2 kHz) and with a small dip 3-4 kHz. This is you use it for recreational purpose, if you are using the speakers for monitoring mixes, I think it matters less.

Hey @Thomas_A , I'll only use the speakers for recreational use. I do not intend on mixing anytime soon.
As for your suggestions, I just learned today about dispersion.

I'll keep in mind what you say about frequencies. Right now it's too technical for my limited knowledge.

Thanks btw!

These are the reasonings regarding design goals of "near field" monitors from Neumann.
From: https://www.neumann.com/en-us/serviceundsupport/file-finder
Search for: "FAQ for studio monitors: Acoustical and application answers, English"

That's very interesting, I understand a bit better the difference between nearfield and midfield now.
Images make it even easier to understand.
Thanks @NTK

In addition to Erin's excellent videos, Amir has a collection of videos here on this site:

You'll notice that these videos cover a great number of topics. IMO, it's a great resource.


@kemmler3D has brought up an excellent point. If you are not yet familiar with equalization, these two posts will give you a good, basic idea how it works:

Thanks for the links @Jim Taylor, they'll be of a great help!
 
Hello forum!

This is my first time posting here but I've been reading reviews here for a couple of months now.

I started my audiophile journey a year ago with kanto oras and a sub8 hooked to my PC. I then switched to a passive setup with a pair of kef q150 and a douk audio a5 amp. Now I'd like to move the kefs to my living room to enjoy my movies and music there as well.

I want new speakers for my desktop and I've been looking reviews for the last couple of days. I almost pulled the trigger on a pair of ls50 meta, but my girlfriend told me to wait a little and make more research before buying even more expensive item than last time.

There are very few audio stores near my hometown, so trying new speakers is difficult. Plus I'm unsure about sellers honesty/knowledge.

I've been looking online, but decided to ask the pros too. Here I have a couple questions:

- Which attributes do I have to look for to determine that a speaker is great for 1m distance listening?

- Does active, passive or studio monitors make a difference for a nearfield experience?

- I do not understand everything about the reviews, mainly the graphs and waves. Is there a tutorial somewhere that could explain to me how to read them?

- Any snakeoil that I should avoid and tips/rules to follow?

Thanks for reading and have a great day
from my personal experience, this is all i can tell is different in speakers :

low frequency extension (how deep the bass is), loudness capabilities in terms of distortion/compression, linearity/accuracy (the frequency response shows this) in the near field based on on-axis and in the far field based on the estimated in room response and another overlooked aspect, the directivity!

The directivity shows how the speaker throws the sound out in different frequencies. Some speakers go wide but are not "tight" or something, because the speaker is wide in some frequencies and then narrow in others, making the soundstage a bit a weird but still enjoyable due to its width. Then there's stuff like the Ascilab, KEF, Neumann and Genelec speakers which have controlled directivity. The sound radiates in an extremely smooth and controlled way. Resulting in a soundstage that is consistent and sounds "deep". I don't know how else to say this but things sound "just right".

If you drop your budget i can give you some recommendations
 
Hey @Jiraya369, here's what I answered to someone else in my very long post.

Right now I don't have an exact budget per say, I saw an interesting video on youtube made by Andrew Robinson where he explained that he bought so much cheaper stuff instead of his grail and wasted twice the money it would have costed him and still didnt owned the speakers he wished for at the start.

I think I might try that, find my grail and put money asside to afford it instead of upgrading every now and then.

I'll certainly look into those companies.

But if I have to put a maximum right now, I guess it would be between 2 and 3k. Considering I might have to change my Amp too.

Maybe higher if I find the perfect speaker for my use.
 
I saw an interesting video on youtube made by Andrew Robinson
Please don't take him seriously -- he's not a good information source! Please don't ignore the point of of diminishing returns -- once you get beyond $1-2k/pair, each additional dollar/euro buys you a smaller and smaller incremental SQ improvement. E.g., it's true that upper-tier outfits like Neumann and Genelec produce excellent monitors in the mid 4-figure price range -- but do they deliver performance that's two, three, or four times better than a carefully selected pair in the aforementioned $1-2k range? Answering that price/performance question honestly for yourself is key IMO!
 
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Please don't take him seriously -- he's not a good information source! Please don't ignore the point of of diminishing returns -- once you get beyond $1-2k/pair, each additional dollar/euro buys you a smaller and smaller incremental SQ improvement. E.g., it's true that upper-tier outfits like Neumann and Genelec produce excellent monitors in the mid 4-figure price range -- but do they deliver performance that's two, three, or fours times better than a carefully selected pair in the aforementioned $1-2k range? Answering that price/performance question honestly for yourself is key IMO!

I hear you! I still have to discover who's qualified and who's a charlatan.

Going over 3k for a pair of speakers + what's needed to run them would require something that has no equal to my ears.
 
Hey @Jiraya369, here's what I answered to someone else in my very long post.



But if I have to put a maximum right now, I guess it would be between 2 and 3k. Considering I might have to change my Amp too.

Maybe higher if I find the perfect speaker for my use.
that is a stupidly good budget and im sure if you can buy a system with this and proper research based on your preferences, you're going to absolutely fall in love. The main thing more expensive speakers would provide is the same performance but having deeper bass and/or having the ability to go louder whilst maintaining composure. Couple all that with better build quality and design and that's basically the luxury tax for more expensive speakers. Returns are diminished after a certain point and if you dont have any need for more loudness then you just basically dont get any returns lol


^ this whole playlist from Erin's Audio Corner will help you understand measurements for speakers. I'll just say the only thing you'd have to watch out for is soundstage width vs depth/tightness based on directivity and see what you might like and you're good to go.

The rest is upto you. Remember mate, sometimes the simplest answer is the best. Sometimes the one whose design you like the most might end up providing you with the most amount of joy.

In your budget I'd look at getting a Wiim Amp Ultra and a UMIK-1, so that you can properly integrate subwoofers and correct room modes, the Amp Ultra is quite powerful as well so there's that, you have more headroom, and it's a transparent dac with streaming capabilities.

After solving the source problem, there's some other things to think about. Can you have subwoofers at your place? How big is it in terms of dimensions (HxWxD)? Based on that i can drop a sub recommendation, that is if you need it even. An RSL Speedwoofer 10e or even two with any of the next speakers would be endgame.

For speakers I have only a few to talk about. KEF Q Concerto Meta, KEF R3 Meta, Mofi Sourcepoint 8, Ascilab C6B, Philharmonic BMR or Ascend Acoustics Sierra 1-V2.

You can watch Erin's reviews to understand better why I'm talking about em but in a nutshell, the KEF and Ascilab speakers have a controlled and deep but narrow soundstage, the Philharmonic is EXTREMELY wide but not controlled, the Ascend Acoustics is wide but not at all controlled and the Mofi is decently controlled with a fairly wide soundstage. KEF and Mofi are coaxials, meaning you can move your head vertically up and down without losing too much sound quality.
 
^ this whole playlist from Erin's Audio Corner will help you understand measurements for speakers. I'll just say the only thing you'd have to watch out for is soundstage width vs depth/tightness based on directivity and see what you might like and you're good to go.
I have lots of his videos to watch, I'll be on it!

Yes I can have and already own a kanto sp8 sub that I originaly bought with my kanto oras. I heard good things about the speedwoofer 10e.

Wiim Amp Ultra is the one with the integrated streamer right? I thought about buying it for the living room but I'm unsure about that feature on my PC.
Right now I use the integrated DAC from my JDS Labs Element IV headphone amp.

And my room is 8Hx8.75Wx11.5D.

Time to go watch some of Erin's videos!
 
Right now I don't have an exact budget per say, I saw an interesting video on youtube made by Andrew Robinson where he explained that he bought so much cheaper stuff instead of his grail and wasted twice the money it would have costed him and still didnt owned the speakers he wished for at the start.

I think I might try that, find my grail and put money asside to afford it instead of upgrading every now and then.

I'll certainly look into those companies.
IMO that's a pretty good approach. "Buy once, cry once" etc. Knowing what I know now, I would do the same. There's no reason to sit there listening to worse speakers than you can afford for very long. Your budget will get you some really nice speakers, most of the real value champion nearfields are in range.

You are 100% on the right track if you are aiming to understand the reviews better before dropping the cash.

I have other expensive interests and having a pretty desktop is one of them. Aesthetics will also be important.
For sure! Once you find the right speakers I think it's mostly down to cable management... ;)

I hear you! I still have to discover who's qualified and who's a charlatan.
There are real charlatans, there are people who don't know better and end up repeating nonsense, and then there are Amir and Erin. ;)

There are other good outlets, I am mostly joking, but the default mode for a lot of Youtube / Social media audiophile-type personalities is to buy into / repeat unscientific nonsense.

A dead giveaway for who to ignore out there: They firmly state that they heard a difference in and noticeably enjoyed the sound quality of any of the following:

  • Cables
  • Ethernet gear (routers, etc)
  • Sampling rates >96Khz (really, 48, but being generous)
  • Amps
  • Digital gear on digital output
  • Power cables / PSUs / Power filters
  • DAC
IMO @Jiraya369 mentions many of the best passives, big +1 to those, you might also look into the Audio First Fidelia. I would also argue you should at least consider actives, as the Neumann KH120II is a really serious contender in your price range, arguably the Genelec 8030c as well. Or... 8331a if you want to go used and stretch your budget ;)
 
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I'd like to ask the contrary: what if a mid or farfield speaker (Polk T50 floorstanders) is used for nearfield (around 1.5-1.6m listening distance)? Would it be negative for SQ? Currently having some issues integrating them into my setup.


 
You are 100% on the right track if you are aiming to understand the reviews better before dropping the cash.

The fomo is real though, there's a 25% discount on the ls50 meta right now and I have to resist haha

Thanks for the advice about the charlatan youtubers!


IMO @Jiraya369 mentions many of the best passives, big +1 to those, you might also look into the Audio First Fidelia. I would also argue you should at least consider actives, as the Neumann KH120II is a really serious contender in your price range, arguably the Genelec 8030c as well. Or... 8331a if you want to go used and stretch your budget ;)
First time hearing aboug audio first fidelia, I'll check those ASAP. As for the Genelec, I bet they sound wonderful, but man I do not appreciate their look.
 
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