The Problem With Dolby Atmos

[mhardy6647]

What technical problems does Atmos have?

...besides being completely artificial?

 

[kyuu]

...besides being completely artificial?

What does that even mean? All recordings are artificial.

 

[Andysu]

...besides being completely artificial?

and junk which is why i have hardly used those rubbish soundmixer movies for several months now , back to basic Dolby Stereo , i don't need soundmixer filmmixer audio atmos rubbish , , gravity is not even in top ten list , atmos is just distracting soundmixing

 

[mhardy6647]

What does that even mean? All recordings are artificial.

 

[Andysu]

What does that even mean? All recordings are artificial.

have you been closely listening ? i can often hear a mute button being hit or the fader sliders abruptly lowered too fast and mixers will always use some excuse now , the art of past mixes a bit way better than the rubbish atmos mixes now , seriously i haven't run my system in Dolby atmos mode for 2 or 3 months ? i not bought any uhd discs since last year and when i do they always end up in the cat litter for lousy soundmixing in this near field rubbish

 

[kyuu]

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Soo... it's not a pipe. Whatever this is supposed to mean is flying way over my head.

 

[mhardy6647]

Soo... it's not a pipe. Whatever this is supposed to mean is flying way over my head.

The Treachery of Images. It is indeed not a pipe.
And a recording is not a performance. EDIT: Which, I believe, was your point -- which did not fly over my head.
But some recordings are way, way closer to mimicking the actual performance than others.
Atmos has wandered a long, long, long way off the path.
Quadraphonic on steroids.


(and we didn't need quad in 1971, either...)

 

[mhardy6647]

Oh, and I am strictly speaking of, and interested in, audio.
Movies... I have no opinion on.

 

[TK_IIVI]

back to basic Dolby Stereo ,

What is "Dolby Stereo"?

i can often hear a mute button being hit or the fader sliders abruptly lowered too fast and mixers will always use some excuse now ,

"too fast" for what? Are there examples of this?

 

[voodooless]

None of this sounds like a technology problem…

 

[Mnyb]

Hey OP left the room way back ? Did anyone realise he only used headphones and had opinions on Atmos exclusively based on his earbud experience ? Just saying

 

[TK_IIVI]

None of this sounds like a technology problem…

agree

Hey OP left the room way back ? Did anyone realise he only used headphones and had opinions on Atmos exclusively based on his earbud experience ? Just saying

this is the internet tho

 

[krabapple]

The Treachery of Images. It is indeed not a pipe.
And a recording is not a performance. EDIT: Which, I believe, was your point -- which did not fly over my head.
But some recordings are way, way closer to mimicking the actual performance than others.
Atmos has wandered a long, long, long way off the path.
Quadraphonic on steroids.


(and we didn't need quad in 1971, either...)

Except, the 'performance' is very often not one -- in the sense of being a band playing together, or even a single musician playing a piece all the way through.
The consumer stereo product has gone off the path of truth already. Thank goodness for that.

 

[Soundmixer]

...besides being completely artificial?

So is stereo

 

[Soundmixer]

and junk which is why i have hardly used those rubbish soundmixer movies for several months now , back to basic Dolby Stereo , i don't need soundmixer filmmixer audio atmos rubbish , , gravity is not even in top ten list , atmos is just distracting soundmixing

Andy, it is always helpful when contributing to a discussion that you have actual knowledge of what you are speaking of. Basic Dolby Stereo is irrelevant, and has been for more than two decades. It is time to move on. If Atmos sounds bad to you, I would look at your setup first, before making negative comments about the technology. The technology is likely not the issue; your perspective of it (uninformed at that) is.

 

[Soundmixer]

have you been closely listening ? i can often hear a mute button being hit or the fader sliders abruptly lowered too fast and mixers will always use some excuse now , the art of past mixes a bit way better than the rubbish atmos mixes now , seriously i haven't run my system in Dolby atmos mode for 2 or 3 months ? i not bought any uhd discs since last year and when i do they always end up in the cat litter for lousy soundmixing in this near field rubbish

LOLOLOLOLOL! How does one hear the mute button being hit? It is mute!!! How do you know the sliders are moving too fast when you can't see them?

Andy, you must do better than this.....if you can.

 

[Mort]

LOLOLOLOLOL! How does one hear the mute button being hit? It is mute!!! How do you know the sliders are moving too fast when you can't see them?

Andy, you must do better than this.....if you can.

Ignore is your friend.

 

[Andysu]

LOLOLOLOLOL! How does one hear the mute button being hit? It is mute!!! How do you know the sliders are moving too fast when you can't see them?

Andy, you must do better than this.....if you can.

marc , your a dreadful filmmixer on that runbish , fury movie

 

[Andysu]

Andy, it is always helpful when contributing to a discussion that you have actual knowledge of what you are speaking of. Basic Dolby Stereo is irrelevant, and has been for more than two decades. It is time to move on. If Atmos sounds bad to you, I would look at your setup first, before making negative comments about the technology. The technology is likely not the issue; your perspective of it (uninformed at that) is.

marc you need to get out more , being sat in front of console playing with plastic rubbish sound to unrealistic speaker positions that always sound the same cliché over and over again , nothing new just the same over and over boring sound positions

 

[Soundmixer]

marc you need to get out more , being sat in front of console playing with plastic rubbish sound to unrealistic speaker positions that always sound the same cliché over and over again , nothing new just the same over and over boring sound positions

So much wrong here as usual. I am not Marc. I do not play video games, and the speaker positions for Atmos have been well researched by Dolby. You have not created anything, not researched anything, and not patented anything. The engineers at Dolby are FAR FAR FAR smarter than you are, and they live in the present(something you should try and do).

Until you invent an audio format, or even get smart enough to understand what is already in your face, your words lack any credibility. You have not mixed a single film, so you have no right to judge Marc's work.

Lastly, you need to learn the difference between the names Soundmixer and Filmixer. They are two different people.