The New King?

[Nango]

China dongle, bet on it!!!!

 

[BlackTalon]

China dongle, bet on it!!!!

It has already been identified. https://www.l7audiolab.com/f/topping-d90se-dac-prototype/

 

[Wes]

Now, i just need a cheap, tiny electrostatic speaker that is ruler flat to 20 Hz

 

[Massimo]

There are already so many DACs that measure exceptionally well. The problem that needs to be addressed is operability and reliability, particularly by SMSL, Khadas, Topping, Matrix, etc.

 

[das]

Is mid-May 2021 and no update yet on who it is?

 

[Martin]

@S34MH1 needs to update the first post to identify the DAC as the Topping D90SE.

Martin

 

[Slayer]

There are already so many DACs that measure exceptionally well. The problem that needs to be addressed is operability and reliability, particularly by SMSL, Khadas, Topping, Matrix, etc.

This ^^^^^^ 100%. Does no good for Topping to keep churning out new DAC's when people keep complaining about the same issues that seem to be prevalent across their DAC lineup's. Click's, pop's, dropouts etc.

 

[das]

I found the release of today - Topping D90SE - very impressive - I was holding out for the Holo May - but maybe not.

 

[raif71]

I found the release of today - Topping D90SE - very impressive - I was holding out for the Holo May - but maybe not.

Any price yet?

 

[das]

Not that i can find - the D90(no letters) just says sold out.

 

[dpippel]

Not that i can find - the D90(no letters) just says sold out.

The existing D90 *is* sold out practically everywhere due to the AKM chip plant fires.

 

[Tks]

Lol crosstalk doesn't exist, even at -160dB there's literally a blip and that's it.

I'm happy to see the shift to ESS though for sure. We need a DX9 Pro though, too many DACs atm >_<

 

[mocenigo]

Lol crosstalk doesn't exist, even at -160dB there's literally a blip and that's it.

Are you looking at the diagram marked "12K25616AVG" ?
I think that one and the following ones are about Jitter (at 48Khz sampling frequency).
The crosstalk is the one above ;-)

But that means that there is essentially *no* jitter - from that point of view this may be one of the lowest jitter devices on the planet, irrespective or price.

 

[ShiZo]

The suspense on this release is killing me...

 

[TheTalbotHound]

Are you looking at the diagram marked "12K25616AVG" ?
I think that one and the following ones are about Jitter (at 48Khz sampling frequency).
The crosstalk is the one above ;-)

But that means that there is essentially *no* jitter - from that point of view this may be one of the lowest jitter devices on the planet, irrespective or price.

Yeah. Crosstalk itself though is the only measurement that the D90SE does not ace. Compare crosstalk for this to the crosstalk of the Gustard X26 Pro, especially in the treble.

 

[Matias]

The SE is probably a good opportunity to switch DAC chip supplier since AKM went up in flames, while at the same time rising to the top of the charts for pure marketing and bragging rights. Seems alright to me!

 

[mocenigo]

Any price yet?

It was already stated as not "over £1000" (which can mean anything, as long as it is not over £1000)

 

[mocenigo]

Yeah. Crosstalk itself though is the only measurement that the D90SE does not ace. Compare crosstalk for this to the crosstalk of the Gustard X26 Pro, especially in the treble.

Probably because it is a single 9038 solution. And I guess it not due to the fact itself that it is two chips instead of one, but using two chips allows to have the tracks on the PCB farther from each other, reducing inductive coupling. But, really, -113Db of separation at 20Khz is overkill also for audiophile bats. Even the around -118Db of separation at roughly 13Khz it probably 90Db more than we can hear at that frequency... So, yeah, they missed THOSE bragging rights (also, real world music signals are not that separated anyway). I could live with that.

 

[ShiZo]

D70s crosstalk is out of this world.

 

[mocenigo]

D70s crosstalk is out of this world.

A dual chip solution, thus keeping the L and R signal paths farther from each other. QED.