Wow that seems very worthy to watch. How is it or was it aired?
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I had never heard of this bloke before, but one very interesting dilemma now looms. Having just looked at all the movies he was responsible for as producer, must these staples of various TV and film channels now be struck from the schedules forever? Various 'historic' scandals in the UK have resulted in problems, e.g. for the BBC scheduling repeats of their Top of the Pops archives: they now have to omit most of them! Any programme or clip involving a convicted pest must seemingly be cast into oblivion. Will Weinstein's films go the same way, or will they merely blur his name out of the credits?
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You just raise a very important moral issue here. And it concerns the entire film entertainment industry. But when talking about Harvey Weinstein, I am learning stuff that I wasn't aware before; it is only in the last ten days that things are illuminating for most of us, the people who aren't part of Hollywood's stars and close entourage of this industry...film producers, executives, film mogul lawyers, defenders of sex abuse, perverts and power trip destroyers of innocent young women lives and careers. Even the police and the news media are guilty because they all knew it and did nothing to stop him. When you let a cancer spread, no matter the reason, you become the cancer yourself, the disease that is rampant in our planet, you become a human values killer, the worst kind of entertainment perpetrator, a traitor to our most fundamental values...human dignity and respect and decency.
• http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/15/media/harvey-weinstein-scandal/index.html
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Extra: Because of other sex abusers/women exploitation...
• http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/entertainment/flynt-offers-millions-dirt-on-trump-1.4355803
• http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/15/media/harvey-weinstein-scandal/index.html
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Extra: Because of other sex abusers/women exploitation...
• http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/entertainment/flynt-offers-millions-dirt-on-trump-1.4355803
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In the film entertainment industry the ones to know last are the moviegoers, us. But everyone else knew it, including this screenwriter, as he said it on his Facebook homepage account:
■ http://deadline.com/2017/10/scott-r...t-over-sexual-assault-allegations-1202189525/
This is a must read.
■ http://deadline.com/2017/10/scott-r...t-over-sexual-assault-allegations-1202189525/
This is a must read.
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In other entertainment news, Channel 4 hacked:
• http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/867698/North-Korea-Channel-4-Opposite-Number-hack-world-war-3
• http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/867698/North-Korea-Channel-4-Opposite-Number-hack-world-war-3
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Thanks for the link. Just finished watching. I've always maintained a belief that we are a corporately owned nation and this just underpins that belief even more.
They sold 3000 mortgages to Fannie-Mae, 9 went into default. Just an incredibly low #. If the rest of the industry behaved as Abacus there would have been no 22 trillion in $$ over valuation and subsequent market crash.
Here's my other favorite:
Citizen United verdict allows corporations to spend money unhindered in our political process. But personal injury rewards are capped. So if a corporation wants to speak in the language of cash it's a ok. If a jury wants to speak in the language of cash it's gagged.
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A Canadian writer, a professional eloquent writer; you owe that to yourself:
• http://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex-murphy-and-the-oscar-for-moral-hypocrisy-goes-to-hollywood
• http://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex-murphy-and-the-oscar-for-moral-hypocrisy-goes-to-hollywood
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His private chauffeur is now speaking out:
• https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4738211/harvey-weinsteins-driver-sex-claims/
Harvey Weinstein's total control over the entire flock of the film industry, and his chauffeur too. Wow, they teach stuff like that in schools, in colleges, in universities, in film classes?
It almost sounds, just almost, like regular normal life routine in a conformed Hollywood film society, isn't it. I saw it the other day on the news channel.
Are they really going to stop this crap now each time it happens again or are they going to keep turning a blind eye so that all of them turning a blind eye are as guilty as a de-womanizer, a women abuser, a conspirator of sex abuse, a partner in crime, ...visually, auditory, mouth to ear, mouth to mouth, all witnesses more or less but still all equally the same burden of guilt in their heart, their conscience, their children, their families, their moral values, and over their shoulders for their entire lifetime. ...And propagating this crime over to the next generations of actors/actresses in Hollywood and abroad.
Hollywood should lead by showing an exemplary respect attitude towards women, men and children. Right now it's just the opposite with all of them who turned a blind eye and kept silent. You are all rotten with all your money and deep hypocrisy.
*** Chain reaction in Hollywood right now, another one:
• https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...james-toback-sexual-harassment-report-n813101
Is this another climate change's effect? On TV the subject is very present right now...people, all people are talking about.
Maybe the culture of the arts in films and in music is in a new phase?
Maybe the film entertainment industry is taking the lead on what will be coming up all across segments and lines of work of our society. Maybe Twitter is not bad after all, maybe there is good coming up in all that bad stuff. Maybe the winds are finally shifting and people waking up, maybe they need to build more jails, maybe all those pigs and powertrip Hollywood crap can go to jail finally, maybe they'll realise that no means no, maybe the judges, the lawyers and the prosecutors and the police will stop to be bought, maybe values will be from the heart and soul instead of the bank account and sick brain, maybe this world will get the message across...that women are humans and not sex objects, maybe they'll start making films denouncing all the pigs, maybe people will take charge and put their own life in their own hands instead of in the hands of the psychos, perverts, sex addicts, pedophiles, abusers, big egos, losers, jerks, pricks, scumbags, pigs, rapists, power trippers, dictators, all that crap with money and no control?
This is truly a sick world where money corrupts everyone and fear becomes number one disease. Fear is like a cancer, hard to cure.
Liberation, from it all, from greed, money corruption, is the real cure, what will kill that cancer for good. Only that, total liberation. Put all those pigs where they belong, in jail rotting for eternity. All the rapists, the racists, the supremacists, the haters, the terrorists, the abusers, the sick in the head, the Hollywood's disease. ...And with it put in jail the others from the music industry, the car industry, the oil industry, the Wall Street industry, the government industry, the pharmaceutical industry, the insurance industry, the computer industry, the hackers, the identity thieves, the credit cards robbers, the bad, the worst, the up-to-no-good scums of the earth, the no conscience, the no morality, the wise guys, the tough, the women beaters, the children salesmen, the destroyers of humanity, the killers of good, the evil, the satanic cults, the radicals, the very very bad bad bad and worst in people who lost their soul by selling it to the highest bidder from the darkest corner.
• https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4738211/harvey-weinsteins-driver-sex-claims/
Harvey Weinstein's total control over the entire flock of the film industry, and his chauffeur too. Wow, they teach stuff like that in schools, in colleges, in universities, in film classes?
It almost sounds, just almost, like regular normal life routine in a conformed Hollywood film society, isn't it. I saw it the other day on the news channel.
Are they really going to stop this crap now each time it happens again or are they going to keep turning a blind eye so that all of them turning a blind eye are as guilty as a de-womanizer, a women abuser, a conspirator of sex abuse, a partner in crime, ...visually, auditory, mouth to ear, mouth to mouth, all witnesses more or less but still all equally the same burden of guilt in their heart, their conscience, their children, their families, their moral values, and over their shoulders for their entire lifetime. ...And propagating this crime over to the next generations of actors/actresses in Hollywood and abroad.
Hollywood should lead by showing an exemplary respect attitude towards women, men and children. Right now it's just the opposite with all of them who turned a blind eye and kept silent. You are all rotten with all your money and deep hypocrisy.
*** Chain reaction in Hollywood right now, another one:
• https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...james-toback-sexual-harassment-report-n813101
Is this another climate change's effect? On TV the subject is very present right now...people, all people are talking about.
Maybe the culture of the arts in films and in music is in a new phase?
Maybe the film entertainment industry is taking the lead on what will be coming up all across segments and lines of work of our society. Maybe Twitter is not bad after all, maybe there is good coming up in all that bad stuff. Maybe the winds are finally shifting and people waking up, maybe they need to build more jails, maybe all those pigs and powertrip Hollywood crap can go to jail finally, maybe they'll realise that no means no, maybe the judges, the lawyers and the prosecutors and the police will stop to be bought, maybe values will be from the heart and soul instead of the bank account and sick brain, maybe this world will get the message across...that women are humans and not sex objects, maybe they'll start making films denouncing all the pigs, maybe people will take charge and put their own life in their own hands instead of in the hands of the psychos, perverts, sex addicts, pedophiles, abusers, big egos, losers, jerks, pricks, scumbags, pigs, rapists, power trippers, dictators, all that crap with money and no control?
This is truly a sick world where money corrupts everyone and fear becomes number one disease. Fear is like a cancer, hard to cure.
Liberation, from it all, from greed, money corruption, is the real cure, what will kill that cancer for good. Only that, total liberation. Put all those pigs where they belong, in jail rotting for eternity. All the rapists, the racists, the supremacists, the haters, the terrorists, the abusers, the sick in the head, the Hollywood's disease. ...And with it put in jail the others from the music industry, the car industry, the oil industry, the Wall Street industry, the government industry, the pharmaceutical industry, the insurance industry, the computer industry, the hackers, the identity thieves, the credit cards robbers, the bad, the worst, the up-to-no-good scums of the earth, the no conscience, the no morality, the wise guys, the tough, the women beaters, the children salesmen, the destroyers of humanity, the killers of good, the evil, the satanic cults, the radicals, the very very bad bad bad and worst in people who lost their soul by selling it to the highest bidder from the darkest corner.
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I don't think so. Tons of other people/talents are involved in these movies and it makes no sense to punish them.
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What they could do though Amir is this: Go help the people in Puerto Rico, in Florida in need of help because of the hurricanes.
Go to North California, right next door and help the victims of fires who lost their homes and everything.
You made your money by keeping quiet, now do the right thing, help others in real need, not scumbags like Harvey Weinstein and others like him.
And for crisse sake denounce them all, just not Weinstein but all the rest, speak up now, don't wait for others to clear your conscience, it just won't work...it is only you, all of you who can change things for the better, for all the women, for all your families...you owe it to yourself and all the things that you believe are right in life.
Only that elevates you as a true shining star, and the reward is not a trophy, an oscar, but in the crevasses of your human soul and of all around you with the same right values of the real human spirit...respect of all gender and color.
Go to North California, right next door and help the victims of fires who lost their homes and everything.
You made your money by keeping quiet, now do the right thing, help others in real need, not scumbags like Harvey Weinstein and others like him.
And for crisse sake denounce them all, just not Weinstein but all the rest, speak up now, don't wait for others to clear your conscience, it just won't work...it is only you, all of you who can change things for the better, for all the women, for all your families...you owe it to yourself and all the things that you believe are right in life.
Only that elevates you as a true shining star, and the reward is not a trophy, an oscar, but in the crevasses of your human soul and of all around you with the same right values of the real human spirit...respect of all gender and color.
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I think they should take 99% of his money away from him and as you suggest, donate it to good causes.
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If money can corrupt people, if the people with money and power can abuse women and bang on the head of the poor, if ... than yes, the people thirsty of justice, the women he abused and devalorised, the people who lost everything, they can be given fair amount of his money to re-balance their life.
But the money is best given to the ones who really need it.
And the women victims of Harvey Weinstein and of all who hided behind their silence and blind eyes, the best they can be compensated for is from the truest and deepest and sincerest apologies from all of them, sons and daughters of stitches...because that's all they truly are...stitches on a billboard of Hollywood boulevard.
We are seeing some online, and much much more is needed, true apologies. That, will give back some self-esteem that was stolen from them, they need the support and acknowledgement and apologies numero uno.
To be bought, of your silence with money is like encouraging crime to keep going. Next audition for young women who start in Hollywood, always record everything...with your camera phone or other gadgets in your person. Get the pigs in their cages. Sue them to the max of the law.
Or never go alone, bring your father and mother with you, bring your boyfriend, bring your best friend, bring your dog, one that will protect you when you say no.
But the money is best given to the ones who really need it.
And the women victims of Harvey Weinstein and of all who hided behind their silence and blind eyes, the best they can be compensated for is from the truest and deepest and sincerest apologies from all of them, sons and daughters of stitches...because that's all they truly are...stitches on a billboard of Hollywood boulevard.
We are seeing some online, and much much more is needed, true apologies. That, will give back some self-esteem that was stolen from them, they need the support and acknowledgement and apologies numero uno.
To be bought, of your silence with money is like encouraging crime to keep going. Next audition for young women who start in Hollywood, always record everything...with your camera phone or other gadgets in your person. Get the pigs in their cages. Sue them to the max of the law.
Or never go alone, bring your father and mother with you, bring your boyfriend, bring your best friend, bring your dog, one that will protect you when you say no.
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Just watched a movie on UK TV channel Film 4: St. Vincent. Huge Weinstein Company logo at the start and end of the film (could easily be edited out), plus Harvey himself named as Executive Producer in the opening credits (not so easy to blur out as it was superimposed in large letters over the opening scenes). My immediate thought was that maybe Film 4 is setting a precedent by choosing to show such a strongly Weinstein-branded film. If his name can be emblazoned across a film in the current climate and nobody complains then they can carry on doing it...
I don't think most people know or care who produces the movie or the studio behind it.
Maybe I'm over-thinking it, but we are living in the era of the twitch hunt when, in the UK at least, a performer's works are cast into oblivion once convicted of this sort of crime - it is certainly BBC policy. Referring to one example:
Prolific DJ and presenter Dave Lee Travis was caught up in a wave of convictions in the UK and didn't even go to prison for his decidedly sub-Weinstein alleged level crimes, but he, among other convicted presenters, has been erased from the BBC's archives as though he never existed - particularly the re-runs of Top of the Pops that have been reduced to a very sparse level.
It is a relatively fine distinction to make between someone's physical appearance on the screen versus their name in massive letters - and the implicit knowledge that they may even be receiving royalties - if it is an officially-sanctioned public hate figure we are talking about.
I notice that the BBC Store is closing its doors after only 18 months. When it was set up, I remember being slightly interested in this snippet:
I thought at the time that it was an interesting concept, actively associating the most 'liberal' organisation in the world with content it now regards as abhorrent, particularly if you were going to have to sign in with said organisation in order to watch the stuff. And as time goes by, and attitudes change, and more performers are convicted, they would either have to allow a purchaser to continue watching the offending programmes on a BBC app, or keep withdrawing them and offering refunds - as they are now doing to all 'purchasers' of programmes. At least with a DVD, they can wash their hands of it once it is sold - but even then, I can imagine their people cringing at the thought of every time a big BBC logo is followed on screen by the opening titles of It Ain't Half Hot Mum. With streaming, they can make sure everything associated with the brand is scrupulously PC to current standards at all times.
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