The Death of Windows 10

[Snarfie]

I've got SSDs on my ancient Lenovo lappies and they're chugging along just fine (using the T440s even as I type this with Win10 and that extended security support that MS rolled out at the last possible moment... ).

The X230 now on a 2TB ssd runs besides 8 usb device like Allen & Heath Xone 4D Digital workstation demanding DAW software like Ableton, Traktor Pro, Foobar combined with lots of add+on(s) like Mathaudio Room EQ an a around 1TB of high-res files albums + tons of Multitrack files. It realy does not give a damm what you throw at it. Only limit don't try a DAW workflow of 20 channels combined with plugins on each channel at once if you run on the background other applications.

 

[Snarfie]

maybe i have a now and then sync issue ? anyway thanks on input there

Regarding sync issius have a look at your current virtually memory if still 512mb modify it like i describe above depending on your RAM size. Mabey be that will help. https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...eath-of-windows-10.43238/page-45#post-2440680

 

[valerianf]

Win10 to Win11 migration was a mess because of Microsoft multiple compatibility checkings. It did not succeeded with a nVME disk but worked perfectly with a SATA SSD. In a second step I had to clone the SSD to the nVME disk.
What a mess these Windows migration tools.

 

[Snarfie]

Win10 to Win11 migration was a mess because of Microsoft multiple compatibility checkings. It did not succeeded with a nVME disk but worked perfectly with a SATA SSD. In a second step I had to clone the SSD to the nVME disk.
What a mess these Windows migration tools.

Try Rufus as i did an bypass the whole microsoft disaster.

 

[Salt]

Migrated 6 machines via online upgrade. Problems occured with printer drivers, that was cured by a new printer.
Then all was fine under 24H2, but after installation of 25H2 at one station the ECG software doesn't work. I'm still investigating why...maybe some security issue with outdated *.dll .

 

[whereisbrian]

I upgraded all the old laptops in the house and a desktop PC to Windows 11 without any problems using Flyoobe.
I keep one with Linux Mint.

I have a recent Dell XPS that I officially upgraded without Flyoobe, and since then I regularly get an error message at startup!

 

[Andysu]

Regarding sync issius have a look at your current virtually memory if still 512mb modify it like i describe above depending on your RAM size. Mabey be that will help. https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...eath-of-windows-10.43238/page-45#post-2440680

cheers for that information

 

[Snarfie]

For some months i run Windows 11 installed with Rufus by passing basicly all anoying Windows 11 setup questions. For what it's worth i find it a remarkable stable OS runs smooth on my Lenovo X230 13 years old 3th Generation I5 Intel processor. I guess the swap of the original 1tb HDD for a 2tb SSD made largely the biggest difference. Got probably the same results installing a clean Windows 10 setup.

 

[LTig]

Yep, swapping a HDD with an SSD literally gives a new life to slow PCs.

 

[phofman]

Honestly, replacing HDD with SSD in a notebook has been due for at least 10 years Nowadays the standard is NVMe, SSDs are on decline (and gradually more and more expensive than NVMes). Unfortunately the same upgrade path does not work for notebooks where PCI-e slots are missing.

 

[KSTR]

Nowadays the standard is NVMe, SSDs are on decline

You probably meant SATA, right? Both SATA and NVMe are protocols for SSDs. SATA comes in the classic formfactor connector but also in the M.2 shape, which also is the only one for NVMe. NVMe is basically PCIexpress, with a varying number of lines used (generation)
Not all M.2 slots accept both protocols, some are only SATA, some are only NVMe of a certain generation, some are both.

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[phofman]

You probably meant SATA, right?

From what I view nowadays when people say SSD they mean the legacy SATA SSD and by NVMe they mean NVMe SSD (as no NVMe HDDs exist). But of course you are right, correctly I should have said SATA SSDs instead. I just would not call an NVMe an SSD (though technically it is, of course).

 

[KSTR]

Yes, language tends to be sloppy.
In ten years nobody will even understand why it is called solid-state drive as any mechanical hard disk drives are long extinct.
And why were hard disk drives called hard disk drives? To tell them apart from floppy disk drives. ;-)

 

[chelgrian]

Yes, language tends to be sloppy.
In ten years nobody will even understand why it is called solid-state drive as any mechanical hard disk drives are long extinct.
And why were hard disk drives called hard disk drives? To tell them apart from floppy disk drives. ;-)

Child on encountering a floppy disk: ‘mummy mummy why has someone 3d printed the save icon’?

 

[phofman]

as any mechanical hard disk drives are long extinct

IMHO hard drives still live and have a future - for storing backups and large slow data. I would not trust flash/solid state for storing offline backups (the charge on non-powered SSDs fades out too fast, according to the manufacturer specs). Also storing 10+TB on SSDs is quite costly, their price drops rather slowly. I use ZFS for these large drives and backing them up (zfs send/receive) or resilvering a drive in mirror raid is quite fast, despite their huge capacity.

 

[respice finem]

Yes, language tends to be sloppy.
In ten years nobody will even understand why it is called solid-state drive as any mechanical hard disk drives are long extinct.
And why were hard disk drives called hard disk drives? To tell them apart from floppy disk drives. ;-)

And they might ask (even today) why a SSD is called SSD = solid state drive (or disk).

a) a HDD is also solid-state
b) there is no disk/drive in an SSD...

 

[Snarfie]

And they might ask (even today) why a SSD is called SSD = solid state drive (or disk).

a) a HDD is also solid-state
b) there is no disk/drive in an SSD...

Their are spooky thing going on in your SSD/flash memory like electrons are existing in a probably cloud also know as quantum tunneling/superposition realy fascinating

 

[Petrushka]

IMHO hard drives still live and have a future - for storing backups and large slow data. I would not trust flash/solid state for storing offline backups (the charge on non-powered SSDs fades out too fast, according to the manufacturer specs). Also storing 10+TB on SSDs is quite costly, their price drops rather slowly. I use ZFS for these large drives and backing them up (zfs send/receive) or resilvering a drive in mirror raid is quite fast, despite their huge capacity.

I use mechanical drives for storage. Years ago, the lubricants in drives froze in storage, but I find mechanical drives to be more reliable for backups. They all fail, at some point.

 

[respice finem]

 

[Sal1950]

And why were hard disk drives called hard disk drives? To tell them apart from floppy disk drives. ;-)

ROTF, funny how fast time, etc; can change things.
I was a reasonably early SSD adopter, getting a 60gb drive in 2006, the step-up in boot time, file access speed, etc; was amazing. So much so I've never gone back, now having over 14 TB SSDs in my tower for music and video file storage. Just recently got my first NVMe "drive", small form factor, dropping costs, increasing speed; etc will likely mean the future of computing but for now the limited number of PCI slots available on most MBs will-might be a factor for some.