The Death of Windows 10

[pablolie]

...I don’t want to be the kind of customer MS clearly wants me to be.

My personal theory is that MSFT came to realize that the days of making billions and keeping customers captive with an OS will disappear. So they did the last blatant push to monetize the market with Win11. Sure one can get Win11 on the cheap legally, but it's the time one spends, and hey, new computers that comply with the rather whimsical specs they declared don't come free either (my "old" unsupported workstation is over twice as powerful and has three times the memory plus a real GPU compared to my corporate laptop, which was Win11 from the getgo). But Win11 does absolutely nothing that Win10 didn't do, so the whole thing is obviously one last $B money grab. "Secure computing"? Such bull, TPM2.0 has existed since times immemorial, and they could have added a patch to Win10 for those who demand that kind of "security" - and in fact MSFT has now forced millions of users into truly *insecure* computing by acting this way... I'd rather have a computer without TPM than a computer with an OS that doesn't get any critical security updates.

 

[Salt]

Of course it's the money, ... stupid. ...

 

[respice finem]

My personal theory is that MSFT came to realize that the days of making billions and keeping customers captive with an OS will disappear. So they did the last blatant push to monetize the market with Win11. Sure one can get Win11 on the cheap legally, but it's the time one spends, and hey, new computers that comply with the rather whimsical specs they declared don't come free either (my "old" unsupported workstation is over twice as powerful and has three time the memory of my corporate laptop, which was Win11 from the getgo). But Win11 does absolutely nothing that Win10 didn't do, so the whole thing is obviously one last $B money grab. "Secure computing"? Such bull, TPM2.0 has existed since times immemorial, and they could have added a patch to Win10 for those who demand that kind of "security".

And, I think they are not "done" yet. Next steps, mandatory cloud storage, subscription-only model, and finally running the system remotely, the end user PC just being a client. And the user himself a pawn. Until he realizes it...

 

[respice finem]

Of course it's the money, ... stupid. ...

Meanwhile, it's not just money - it's power... Nothing is ever enough. Not a good long-term strategy IMHO, but it is what it is.

 

[Doodski]

Wait for the next update that might overwrite all Your settings - or not, if we're lucky...

O' man! I never even thought of that. I would be frustrated if that would happen. I used a Microsoft Account on the desktop and the laptop PCs to store my setting in the cloud so isn't that supposed to guarantee everything is going to stay in the order of my choosing? Win 11 has a bazillion settings now compared to all versions previous. It's pretty organized but some very dumb stuff like this that I have found to date.>>>
- Numb Lock does not engage when logging into Windows. the numb lock does not auto engage anymore. A user must adjust the registry, create a start up command file etc to ensure numb lock engages when starting up Win 11.
- To wake the PC from sleep with the mouse seems to not be configurable for that feature. I attempted many settings and configurations on both the laptop and the desktop PCs and this feature seems to be impossible to configure.

 

[respice finem]

...some very dumb stuff...

The "feature" that takes the cake is the "ages" old default of hiding file extensions
So millions of "sheeple" can unwittingly klick on seehowcute.jpg.exe and such

 

[pablolie]

... mandatory cloud storage, subscription-only model, and finally running the system remotely, the end user PC just being a client. And the user himself a pawn ...

That's most definitely the direction of computing in large corporations - they call it security but it's about control (even though the two can be related). I used to buy my own computers and configure them for work. All you needed to do was add them to AD and install VPN software on them. In today's corporate cloud-first world, that's no longer possible... and in fact I don't have full administrative rights on my work computer anymore, they took that away 2 years ago.

But this does not translate into the non-corporate world. I want completely autonomous computers. If I wanted a computer in the cloud, I'd get myself a virtual computer...

 

[Salt]

BTW almost half of code supply to Linux, if press can be trusted, is supported by MS
Driving a cloud access is kind of different than Desktop interface ....

 

[pablolie]

Meanwhile, it's not just money - it's power... Nothing is ever enough. Not a good long-term strategy IMHO, but it is what it is.

Works well for Apple, though...

 

[dualazmak]

- Numb Lock does not engage when logging into Windows. the numb lock does not auto engage anymore. A user must adjust the registry, create a start up command file etc to ensure numb lock engages when starting up Win 11.

In my Windows PCs, "Num Lock" is always OK when logging into Windows, whenever after the "intact" installation. Of course, in motherboard BIOS, I set Num Lock "ON" if the control is available in the BIOS.

- To wake the PC from sleep with the mouse seems to not be configurable for that feature. I attempted many settings and configurations on both the laptop and the desktop PCs and this feature seems to be impossible to configure.

I never trust "sleep (hibernation) mode"! I always make "OFF/DISABLE" the hibernation features, and also have deleted "hiberfil.sys" at the root of drive C: giving me considerable more free space in drive C:

 

[respice finem]

That's most definitely the direction of computing in large corporations - they call it security but it's about control (even though the two can be related). I used to buy my own computers and configure them for work. All you needed to do was add them to AD and install VPN software on them. In today's corporate cloud-first world, that's no longer possible... and in fact I don't have full administrative rights on my work computer anymore, they took that away 2 years ago.

But this does not translate into the non-corporate world. I want completely autonomous computers. If I wanted a computer in the cloud, I'd get myself a virtual computer...

IMHO even for corpos, there's a major catch - what if the cloud services (are brought to) fail, by hacking, sabotage, etc. ?
Their business will be "toast" in minutes.

 

[mhardy6647]

And, I think they are not "done" yet. Next steps, mandatory cloud storage, subscription-only model, and finally running the system remotely, the end user PC just being a client. And the user himself a pawn. Until he realizes it...

I think the subscription OS is months away; a year on the outside. DOS365 has a ring to it, don't you think?
Dunno about mandatory cloud storage... that'd really p!$$ me off.

 

[pablolie]

BTW almost half of code supply to Linux, if press can be trusted, is supported by MS
Driving a cloud access is kind of different than Desktop interface ....

Corporations would love just one code base, and of course MSFT knows that and is moving in that direction, WSL (Win Subsystem for Linux) keeps adding functionality much faster than the rather stale WinOS. I don't tink the day is too far away when the Office apps will run on Linux directly (they already run on Android and iOS... isn't it weird not yet on Ubuntu and such? :-D)... because, as Android demonstrates, you can keep the CLI away from Linux users and really make it a basic, lightweight OS. The vast majority of users don't want to bother with an OS, they just want the apps.

And yes, 75% of Linux code these days comes from large corporations, but I think that 50% estimate for MSFT may be too high.

 

[respice finem]

I think the subscription OS is months away; a year on the outside. DOS365 has a ring to it, don't you think?
Dunno about mandatory cloud storage... that'd really p!$$ me off.

I'm extra cautious with subscriptions, they are money drains. And, why should I subscribe to treating me like the enemy (or like a dimwit, or both).

 

[Salt]

If they really dare to go mandatory for MS account and 365 they are out (of business).

 

[respice finem]

Corporations would love just one code base, and of course MSFT knows that and is moving in that direction, WSL (Win Subsystem for Linux) keeps adding functionality much faster than the rather stale WinOS. I don't tink the day is too far away when the Office apps will run on Linux directly (they already run on Android and iOS... isn't it weird not yet on Ubuntu and such? :-D)... because, as Android demonstrates, you can keep the CLI away from Linux users and really make it a basic, lightweight OS. The vast majority of users don't want to bother with an OS, they just want the apps.

And yes, 75% of Linux code these days comes from large corporations, but I think that 50% estimate for MSFT may be too high.

The old embrace, extend...

 

[respice finem]

If they really dare to go mandatory for MS account and 365 they are out (of business).

I'm afraid not. Many, too many people are "sheeple", and they know it.

 

[somebodyelse]

I recently attempted to transition to Linux with a secondary windows drive just for certain games that require windows, but I forgot Linux HDMI 2.1 is broken on AMD gpus. Lack of basic hardware support like that's a dealbreaker for me, even if its not actually LInux or AMD's fault.

I must have missed how Intel were allowed to add open source HDMI 2.1 support in their linux drivers but AMD aren't. Are the troublesome parts hidden in a firmware blob or something?

 

[Salt]

I'm afraid not. Many, too many people are "sheeple", and they know it.

Don't think this way, as long as that old weird web gives advice

 

[respice finem]

Maybe it isn't so any more, there are new drivers for AMD issued a few days ago.