The Death of Windows 10

[digitalfrost]

PSA: You can extend the Windows 10 support time by using TSforge option in MAS

 

[mhardy6647]

PSA: You can extend the Windows 10 support time by using TSforge option in MAS

So... who are those guys?

 

[Berwhale]

So... who are those guys?

I don't know, but I can still activate Windows 11 with my Windows 7 Professional key from Technet which Microsoft killed in 2013.

 

[mhardy6647]

I don't know, but I can still activate Windows 11 with my Windows 7 Professional key from Technet which Microsoft killed in 2013.

I'd just be... oh, I dunno... a little leery of running a script from some unknown source.
Kinda like... oh... maybe finding a piece of pre-masticated chewing gum on the street and picking it up and chewing it.

I am kind of funny that way.
Not just that way... but... computers... scripts of unknown origin... definitely funny that way.

 

[pablolie]

I did update 2 non-up-to-spec computers earlier this year (see this post).

With one of them, the only way the upgrade worked was *not* updating Win10, but rather telling the update process to *wipe* the computer and do a clean Win11 install. That was with a Lenovo Thinkpad X270.

 

[respice finem]

Funny things happen sometimes... Before I took offline "the Windows side" of my HTPC, officially not compatible with Windows 11, I updated using "flyby" and was a bit wary about activation. It activated itself, despite this upgrade being an upgrade of an upgrade (before 10 it had 7).
I don't need to understand it, as long as it works

 

[Berwhale]

I'd just be... oh, I dunno... a little leery of running a script from some unknown source.
Kinda like... oh... maybe finding a piece of pre-masticated chewing gum on the street and picking it up and chewing it.

I am kind of funny that way.
Not just that way... but... computers... scripts of unknown origin... definitely funny that way.

Script is on GitHub for all to see...

GitHub - massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts: Open-source Windows and Office activator featuring HWID, Ohook, TSforge, KMS38, and Online KMS activation methods, along with advanced troubleshooting.

Open-source Windows and Office activator featuring HWID, Ohook, TSforge, KMS38, and Online KMS activation methods, along with advanced troubleshooting. - massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts

github.com

 

[Timcognito]

Or you can buy Win 11 for $10 at stacksocial.com. I have both 10 and 11 no big deal using ether.

Microsoft Windows 11 Pro | StackSocial

<p>Microsoft-Verified Partner! Upgrade Your Windows OS and Enjoy Enhanced UI, Better Multitasking, and Improved Security</p>

www.stacksocial.com

 

[mhardy6647]

I will experiment with this T440s after Day Zero comes...

 

[somebodyelse]

For me it's Apples much more closed ecosystem. With Windows and Android you at least have a choice between different hardware vendors, and apps to access data on the other platform. With Mac OS and IOS you are restricted to Apple hardware, and Apple makes it difficult for developers of other platforms to creste apps which connect to their ecosystem.

I generally dislike Apple's "does not play well with others" attitude, but Google's recent decision to make developers register and its likely effect of killing f-droid has me almost considering a change - will have to see how that plays out, both for open source developers and ways of getting apps onto LineageOS, GrapheneOS and so on.

 

[OCA]

Not sure why I have to say this, but the point of this thread is being sad about losing Windows 10, not plotting our forced march to 11.

 

[Berwhale]

Not sure why I have to say this, but the point of this thread is being sad about losing Windows 10, not plotting our forced march to 11.

 

[Salt]

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[Zekbone]

I recently attempted to transition to Linux with a secondary windows drive just for certain games that require windows, but I forgot Linux HDMI 2.1 is broken on AMD gpus. Lack of basic hardware support like that's a dealbreaker for me, even if its not actually LInux or AMD's fault.

 

[dualazmak]

I recently attempted to transition to Linux with a secondary windows drive just for certain games that require windows, but I forgot Linux HDMI 2.1 is broken on AMD gpus. Lack of basic hardware support like that's a dealbreaker for me, even if its not actually LInux or AMD's fault.

I too have been testing and evaluating Ubuntu (24.04.2) and latest Chrome OS, in parallel with Windows 11 Pro 25H2, in two of my outdated PCs.
As wrote here, "testing Ubuntu/Linux OS and Chrome OS, having three independent bootable 256 GB or 512 GB OS-SSDs of Windows 11 Pro, Ubuntu, Chrome OS, respectively; the three SSDs can be physically and completely-independently replaced/exchanged via SATA and SATA-power cables that are pulled-out to the front of the each PC case/chassis."

And, I too, just like your case, encountered a few issues of "Lack of basic hardware support like that's a dealbreaker for me" with Ubuntu and Chrome OS, even though Ubuntu and Chrome OS are just fine for daily web browsing and participation thereof, as well as for simple file storage purposes.

In any way, as shared here;
In my audio-(visual)-dedicated two completely silent PCs in my living-listening room, however, I still do need the latest Windows OS, since I have been sticking to DSP EKIO (only for Windows), VB-AUDIO MATRIX (for Windows), JRiver MC, OKTO DAC8PRO and its ASIO driver, etc; all of them have been, and are now, working perfectly for my audio-(visual) enjoyments (ref. here #931 and #1,009 on my project thread for the details and the latest system setup.)

 

[Timcognito]

Not sure why I have to say this, but the point of this thread is being sad about losing Windows 10, not plotting our forced march to 11.

Okay keep driving your 2015 ForFour

 

[Soniclife]

Not sure why I have to say this, but the point of this thread is being sad about losing Windows 10, not plotting our forced march to 11.

One of the questions in the OP was.

What happens to all the computers without TPM 2.0 then?

Seems like we're still on topic to me.

 

[shuppatsu]

I’m one of those who responded to all those nagware messages by switching to Linux. I love it, but at the same time recognize it’s not for everyone.

Honestly I don’t mind MS not having to support prior versions indefinitely and the TPM thing is easily bypassed. Not that it would matter for me because my 2017 motherboard supports TPM 2.0.

My issue with Windows is all the nagging about Microsoft accounts, and Edge, and Copilot, and Recall, and so on. Yeah, most of it can be circumvented with a lot less work than getting my games running on Linux. But I don’t care. I don’t want to be the kind of customer MS clearly wants me to be.

 

[Doodski]

I’m one of those who responded to all those nagware messages by switching to Linux. I love it, but at the same time recognize it’s not for everyone.

Honestly I don’t mind MS not having to support prior versions indefinitely and the TPM thing is easily bypassed. Not that it would matter for me because my 2017 motherboard supports TPM 2.0.

My issue with Windows is all the nagging about Microsoft accounts, and Edge, and Copilot, and Recall, and so on. Yeah, most of it can be circumvented with a lot less work than getting my games running on Linux. But I don’t care. I don’t want to be the kind of customer MS clearly wants me to be.

I made time and used up about 4 hours going through every Win 11 setting(Reading a guide(s) to get the privacy and nagging disabled.). There was a bunch of settings needing to be disabled but I got them all done and now the notifications are silent, the reporting home is silent and generally I never ever get any nagging now. it is totally silent. I bought a new laptop a couple of days ago and I did the same thing on it and now it is silent too.

 

[Salt]

Wait for the next update that might overwrite all Your settings - or not, if we're lucky...