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The Death of Windows 10

There still may be a paid option. The Cnet article describes three options. I did the one that required you to do a full account backup to Onedrive. After doing so, the ESU enrollment option was offered under Settings>Windows Update
The version of the article I get doesn't mention that option, odd.

I enrolled the other day, see post 729
 
I keep over a terabyte of photo files on my main desktop (the main drive is 8TB and the Synology NAS is 24TB). A full backup on Onedrive would absolutely be a cost option, in addition to taking about a week and a half to complete with my terrestrial microwave service. I have to work hard to avoid MS forcing me to put stuff on Onedrive.

I have actually acquired a new computer to replace my existing photo computer, which is a Xeon workstation-class computer from about 12 years ago. My problem is that I have to move over the 8TB drive and the video card, making it rather challenging to figure out how to port over the installed software. I also have to make sure I don't lose my Firewire port so that my Nikon film scanner can make the trip to the new computer. I will, I'm sure, have to reinstall everything, but then I risk losing a large library of custom setups and tools. I've been stuck on that for several months now. Once I cross that hurdle, I'll probably repurpose the old computer for use on the electronics bench--it will need to run some old software and for that I'll probably use a VPN to keep it as safe as possible for limited excursions into the internet. I may even have to install an old XP as a virtual machine. That will be a project.

My Win10 laptop is another problem. I do not have any need for a new personal laptop, and I despise the affordable options like the Lenovo my wife uses. My old Dell is fine for what I use a laptop to do, so I'll probably try to use the bag o'tricks to get MS to update it to Win11.

My audio laptop is a Win10 cheapie that I can attach to the LAN but not to the internet. But probably everything it does can be done in a Linux distro of one sort or another, much as I don't like messing with Linux.

Rick "and then there's the terabyte of photos on my wife's desktop, which is already a Win11 box--but she doesn't edit much" Denney
 
The version of the article I get doesn't mention that option, odd.

I enrolled the other day, see post 729

Thanks! Missed your post. Yes, may have just linked to the Microsoft website offer via the Cnet article. It is a moving target and have been quite busy with house projects lately. Am also a have Microsoft 365 account via license sharing. So may have gotten the offer that way. My computer is not that old and runs fine. Am just pleased to put off another year. I have enough older computers to consider and will likely retire or load them with Linux.
 
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A full backup on Onedrive would absolutely be a cost option
I'm not at all sure what criteria they are using for this backup thing, I backup a tiny subset of files to onedrive, and I qualified. Different rules for different countries may well be in effect.
 
So M$ is going to milk users at least once more for $30. What a bunch of whores.

While get your gripe, production software comes at a cost. Enterprise class Linux is not free either.

HUH, whats the deal with that, What do they need my info for, I upload all of GOD knows what off my computer to their cloud to get ESU? SCARY :mad:

What do you have on your computer Sal? ;)

In any case, there are tradeoffs and mitigations with most technologies. If you do not like Microsoft then that’s fine. Apple, Google and others offer alternatives. More often they are slightly better or worse in some respect or another. I am driven by support for my application software and deal with privacy and other concerns as best I see fit.

I have seen how most lay folk use their computers and am sure are much easier prey than my computers. :)
 
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I've seen very little meniton of this option here or elsewhere.
For what it is worth, I mentioned it. Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC lets you cut out the bloatware for the most part. The start menu is still ghastly and a downgrade, but at least I have driver support for the latest devices.
 
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What do you have on your computer Sal? ;)
Dual boot Linux and Win 10. I've been a Linux guy since around 1998 but need to keep a Win partition just to run a couple proprietary apps.

The Cnet article describes three options. I did the one that required you to do a full account backup to Onedrive.
Back to this, what's this about? Instead of paying the $30, if you upload "God knows what" off your computer to their cloud, then you get the ESU for free. ???
Why, what do they get out of that in exchange they can ignore the $30 charge?. Sure, I'm no fan of M$ but this deal stinks to high heaven. IMO
Just cause I'm paranoid doesn't mean no one is following me. ;)

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There still may be a paid option. The Cnet article describes three options. I did the one that required you to do a full account backup to Onedrive. After doing so, the ESU enrollment option was offered under Settings>Windows Update
So You payed via Your data ...
 
I keep over a terabyte of photo files on my main desktop (the main drive is 8TB and the Synology NAS is 24TB). A full backup on Onedrive would absolutely be a cost option, in addition to taking about a week and a half to complete with my terrestrial microwave service. I have to work hard to avoid MS forcing me to put stuff on Onedrive.

I have actually acquired a new computer to replace my existing photo computer, which is a Xeon workstation-class computer from about 12 years ago. My problem is that I have to move over the 8TB drive and the video card, making it rather challenging to figure out how to port over the installed software. I also have to make sure I don't lose my Firewire port so that my Nikon film scanner can make the trip to the new computer. I will, I'm sure, have to reinstall everything, but then I risk losing a large library of custom setups and tools. I've been stuck on that for several months now. Once I cross that hurdle, I'll probably repurpose the old computer for use on the electronics bench--it will need to run some old software and for that I'll probably use a VPN to keep it as safe as possible for limited excursions into the internet. I may even have to install an old XP as a virtual machine. That will be a project.

My Win10 laptop is another problem. I do not have any need for a new personal laptop, and I despise the affordable options like the Lenovo my wife uses. My old Dell is fine for what I use a laptop to do, so I'll probably try to use the bag o'tricks to get MS to update it to Win11.

My audio laptop is a Win10 cheapie that I can attach to the LAN but not to the internet. But probably everything it does can be done in a Linux distro of one sort or another, much as I don't like messing with Linux.

Rick "and then there's the terabyte of photos on my wife's desktop, which is already a Win11 box--but she doesn't edit much" Denney
With Linux You can install and delete any package ('App' in win and android speach) , as long as it does not destroy the basic system.
 
So You payed via Your data ...

Yep, I pay Amazon, Apple, Microsoft and Google (as little as I can). Anyone who thinks otherwise, either does not use technology or is ignorant.
 
Yep, I pay Amazon, Apple, Microsoft and Google (as little as I can). Anyone who thinks otherwise, either does not use technology or is ignorant.
And the good folks at M$ are selling your financial data to the highest bidder.
 
And the good folks at M$ are selling your financial data to the highest bidder.

The point is they are all selling your data and likely your bank too!
 
The point is they are all selling your data and likely your bank too!
And on top of it all, they are increasingly sniffing people's PCs local data. Like on smartphones since years already. Conditioning people to be "data sheep".

So, not even being excessively paranoid, I came to keep offline any PC containing important or confidential data.
My "Onedrive" is a fast USB SSD, if I have to update something, I disconnect it before the NIC is switched on.
For everyday surfing - Linux Mint (dual boot). Problem solved. Feels like Windows 7 to me, without the activation circus, better file manager, etc.
Windows is still better as a media player/HTPC, but the vast majority of what I "consume" is also offline.


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Amazon, Apple and Google do the same, some on a much larger scale. There are no good players in big business.
Probably, if they were good players, they wouldn't become so big.
 
The point is they are all selling your data and likely your bank too!

Amazon, Apple and Google do the same, some on a much larger scale. There are no good players in big business.
Not to the same extent. Yes they are tracking my preferences etc, but I've not given them some unknown access to my hard drive.
Do you know how many permissions or to what level you given OneDrive? Or is it just full ROOT access? :eek:
 
Louis Rossmann isn't happy!
Oh brother, what a distorted view of the international situation,
Louis, there are plains flying out every hour.
I'll buy you a beer or two at the airport. ;)
 
Not to the same extent. Yes they are tracking my preferences etc, but I've not given them some unknown access to my hard drive.
Do you know how many permissions or to what level you given OneDrive? Or is it just full ROOT access? :eek:

No, is just a full account backup. If you want privacy, you can put into local folder or encrypt. My most private information has been emailed or transmitted on the internet at some point. I learned long ago, that you are unlikely to fend off a serious hacker, and you should be insured if you really want major protection.
 
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