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The Death of Windows 10

My Windows-10 machine is about 13 years old by now. It still runs fine, all right, but it becomes more obvious all the time now that it wasn’t made for 2024+ apps’ requirements. »Pimping« it for Windows 11 won’t actually change that, I’d guess.
 
SFF means Small Form Factor, anything microATX and down.
I'm not sure the SFF is a good deal anymore. You often can get as good a hardware for the same price in a laptop. SFF might have more ports. But a laptop for the same money is usually about as good. Perfectly good in clamshell mode. They can be turned on end and take up less space than a microATX setup. Plus if you even once and a while want to you can unplugged it go somewhere with it. I think it is about market size. Desktops in general are out of favor so other than big gaming rigs they don't sell well at all. So the price to hardware ratio is not the best anymore. At least it is very close. Fewer and fewer laptops let you upgrade memory or even SDD. SFF machines usually do allow that. I also see lots of issues with SFF machines in terms of they stop working at higher rates.
 
I think it is about market size
Desktops in general are out of favor so other than big gaming rigs they don't sell well at all.
Fewer and fewer laptops let you upgrade memory or even SDD.
Kind of reminds me of some things in the HiFi world.
Compromise on performance and configuration options to save a little room ?
As long as I have no need to carry it around, I'll keep building in extra-large desktop towers.
Tons of elbow room to work in, add drives, cooling options, whatever you need or want. ;)

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Kind of reminds me of some things in the HiFi world.
Compromise on performance and configuration options to save a little room ?
As long as I have no need to carry it around, I'll keep building in extra-large desktop towers.
Tons of elbow room to work in, add drives, cooling options, whatever you need or want. ;)

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I'm the same... My desktop can open 50+ Chrome tabs without fail and does pretty good at gaming too.
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Kind of reminds me of some things in the HiFi world.
Compromise on performance and configuration options to save a little room ?
As long as I have no need to carry it around, I'll keep building in extra-large desktop towers.
Tons of elbow room to work in, add drives, cooling options, whatever you need or want. ;)

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Yes, that is what I used more or less until this year. The space to add drives or cards on the PCIe bus for new connections etc is very nice. I decided I wanted a smaller box however. And I had a 10 year old laptop that also was plenty serviceable. So it had me thinking things change slowly enough you can get away without the big box. I still understand if that is one's choice.

So I crossed over to the dark side and got a Mac Mini M4 a week ago. I had a 2014 Macbook Pro which was for remote recording gigs to run my audio interface. As an act of contrition for my sins, I did put Linux on that over the summer. A great little laptop with Linux on it.

So I'm OS agnostic I suppose. Have an M4 Mini for my desktop setup. A Win 11 gaming laptop for my recording gigs and my spare laptop is a Macbook running linux. My Linux desktop is retired at the moment. Probably will gift it to someone without a machine.
 
So I crossed over to the dark side and got a Mac Mini M4 a week ago.

Well, that is kind of weird. I did not get a Mac Mini M4 a week ago, although I definitely crossed over to the dark side about nearly a month ago or so.
 
Before I attempt moving to W11, I would like to hear from folks who have upgraded to W11, and using the W11 PC as audio source (eg. foobar) … any problems or potential problems I should consider before attempting to upgrade to W11?

Is W11 audio subsystem as good or better than W10?
 
I just plan to get us some new tower PCs, probably IdeaCentres, next September or so, Tariffs be damned. We will enjoy the additional RAM then too. I like to keep older equipment going as long as it makes sense, but the various hurdles that Microsoft has created seem like too much of a pain to wade through.

We've had our current ThinkCentre towers about 4 years and I think they were three-four year old models at the time, so probably built around 2016 or so.
 
[..] A Win 11 gaming laptop for my recording gigs and my spare laptop is a Macbook running linux. .
Funny. I use a 14+ year old 11" Lenovo business laptop with an Intel ULV CPU (very slow) and Lubuntu to record live gigs in stereo 96/24 using Audacity and a very old USB 1 USB sound device (Editor UA 25ex). Works perfectly.
 
Funny. I use a 14+ year old 11" Lenovo business laptop with an Intel ULV CPU (very slow) and Lubuntu to record live gigs in stereo 96/24 using Audacity and a very old USB 1 USB sound device (Editor UA 25ex). Works perfectly.
I haven't delved into it lately. In the past with Linux doing recordings with 2 microphones and a 2 channel interface was doable with some of them. I didn't have a simple way to do that with more than two channels. Maybe I just didn't go about it right or had the wrong interfaces to work with. I sometimes needed a few channels.
 
I am impressed with Zorin OS running on a spare old Dell laptop with an 8th gen I5 processor. If I didn't need to use Microsoft Office I would likely run it instead of Windows 11 on my primary machine.
 
I do not ever bother with windows. I have now more than twenty years of exclusive use of Linux, Ubuntu with KDE graphic interface , known as "Kubuntu".
KDE interface is a must to have and use in Linux , plenty of apps and incredible possibilities of customization.
Ubuntu is not the best, but have the most possibilities of customization and adaptation for diverse roles.

"In a world without walls and fences, nobody will need WINDOWS and GATES."
 
Aye, but you don't get to use the awesome MathAudio RoomEQ for free on Linux.

Not sure if it even runs on Linux tbh...
 
This might take a while...

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Laptop purchased new in 2019 for £130 including the extra 240GB SSD...

Coda Spirit 13.3 32GB Laptop, Intel Celeron N3350 1.1GHz, 4GB LPDDR4, 32GB eMMC, 13.3" Full HD IPS, No-DVD, Intel HD, WIFI, Bluetooth, Windows 10 Home 64bit + WD Green M.2 SSD 240GB 7mm SATA Gen 3



This thing is very thin and light, the screen is also OK, performance was atrocious with Windows 10. Let's see how we get on with 11. I will debloat it as much as I dare with https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil
 
This might take a while...

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Laptop purchased new in 2019 for £130 including the extra 240GB SSD...

Coda Spirit 13.3 32GB Laptop, Intel Celeron N3350 1.1GHz, 4GB LPDDR4, 32GB eMMC, 13.3" Full HD IPS, No-DVD, Intel HD, WIFI, Bluetooth, Windows 10 Home 64bit + WD Green M.2 SSD 240GB 7mm SATA Gen 3



This thing is very thin and light, the screen is also OK, performance was atrocious with Windows 10. Let's see how we get on with 11. I will debloat it as much as I dare with https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil
Your machine is screaming for a lightweight Linux distro,
 
I know, I tried running Ubuntu and MX Linux and couldn't get the graphics card to work (black screen after GRUB). Linux is supposed to work pretty well on this laptop, so I may give it another try at some point...


Meanwhile, Windows 11 is still getting things ready for me...
Try PCLinuxOS. It should be able to work for you.
I've been running it here for well over 20+ years.
I ran a KDE destop for years but have enjoyed the lighter Mate for the last 10 or so.
A rolling distro that does continuous updates, no need to do a regular reinstall.
Great support forum.

 
Try PCLinuxOS. It should be able to work for you.
I've been running it here for well over 20+ years.
I ran a KDE destop for years but have enjoyed the lighter Mate for the last 10 or so.
A rolling distro that does continuous updates, no need to do a regular reinstall.
Great support forum.


I'll give it a go, but I can't even get Ubuntu Live booted, I think I might need to play about with the options in GRUB, rather than try lots of distros.
 
Aye, but you don't get to use the awesome MathAudio RoomEQ for free on Linux.

Not sure if it even runs on Linux tbh...
Yes you can i got Mathaudio running on Linux Unintu sort of emulating windows OS add on. Only issiue was how to run high resolution files lager than 48khz. https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...q-users-tips-tricks.30525/page-7#post-1983449

 
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