I have a Reverse Osmosis water filter system here, I believe that would be just as good as any water for record cleaning while giving you pure drinking water on tap.
I also use it for the batteries on my golf cart which go thru water like crazy.
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I also use it for the batteries on my golf cart which go thru water like crazy.
I use Biltema water.After reading more about manual cleaning of vinyl records, I think I’m a bit too lazy to do that.
Maybe I'll buy the cheaper version HumminGuru, or is there a better alternative from other manufacturers in that price range?
@Thomas_A, you have a HumminGuru, right? What type of distilled water do you use that can be bought in Sweden? Is it equally good to use so called “battery water” or “demineraliserat vatten” that can be bought from Granngården or Biltema?
And comes with a TDS tester to check the filter does not need changing, for me it's a coffee gadget.
Technically it only takes all the minerals out, it does not filter bacteria, which probably doesn't matter if you are starting with drinking water.
It is actually bad for a coffee machine. Water with all minerals removed is actually aggressive and likes to dissolve the guts of your machine. It also stops the water level sensors from working, since they need minerals in the water for it to conduct.
I've never bothered, and don't intend to start now.After reading more about manual cleaning of vinyl records, I think I’m a bit too lazy to do that.
I have very few records that might really benefit, a few I thought might I put through a friends VPI and the improvement was minimal.
I know other people who were driven to cleaners by noise during playback, and I could never work out why they had problems and I didn't, vinyl can be weird and frustrating.
Yes, that's why adding back the correct minerals before brewing is done. You also need the correct minerals for taste, but that's way of topic.
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As I mentioned, after a significant break, I just got back to playing music again on my system, especially records.
Last night I was playing one of my rare Library Records which comprised tracks meant to evoke a sense of mystery and contemplative intrigue. Lots of stuff by small ensembles of instruments - harp, flute, strings, occasional bits of percussion, xylophone, some woodwinds, etc.
The recording was not particularly rich and the instruments were placed at a distance which befitted the mood.
But oh my gosh, did it sound beautiful!!
The speakers just totally disappeared, and there’s a sense of almost limitless depth in terms of how the instruments were appearing in the expanse of the recording well be beyond the speakers. Every detail was easy to hear, no matter how quietly played. Every instrument so distinct - a flute sounded so distinctly flute like in texture and tone, likewise for clarinet, and everything else. And there was this textural presence that allowed my mind to sink into the feeling of “real instruments.” Even to the point I forgive some of the warbling/wow starting to occur at the end of the record.
I just want to pinch myself to own this record and also be able to experience this type of sound quality on my system.
Yup… I still love Vinyl Playback!
Last night I was playing one of my rare Library Records which comprised tracks meant to evoke a sense of mystery and contemplative intrigue. Lots of stuff by small ensembles of instruments - harp, flute, strings, occasional bits of percussion, xylophone, some woodwinds, etc.
The recording was not particularly rich and the instruments were placed at a distance which befitted the mood.
But oh my gosh, did it sound beautiful!!
The speakers just totally disappeared, and there’s a sense of almost limitless depth in terms of how the instruments were appearing in the expanse of the recording well be beyond the speakers. Every detail was easy to hear, no matter how quietly played. Every instrument so distinct - a flute sounded so distinctly flute like in texture and tone, likewise for clarinet, and everything else. And there was this textural presence that allowed my mind to sink into the feeling of “real instruments.” Even to the point I forgive some of the warbling/wow starting to occur at the end of the record.
I just want to pinch myself to own this record and also be able to experience this type of sound quality on my system.
Yup… I still love Vinyl Playback!
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Not sure if this has been discussed yet, but.. what are people using for a record brush?
Here are mine:
There’s the Audioquest brush (thinner, black one background) and the bigger Ursa Major brush (I think it was from Germany).
I view the Ursa Major as my main record brush. First of all it cleans better than any record brush I’ve used. Second, since I like the tactile nature of a nice turntable, I continue that with the desire for even the record brush to look good and feel good and substantial in my hand. Which this brush does. I always like feeling like I’m interacting with something of quality.
If a record is particularly dusty, I might start with the audioquest brush and finish with the Ursa Major. Or if I’ve just thrown on a new used record that hasn’t been washed yet I might give it a quick brush with the audioquest, saving the big brush for records that have already been washed.
Here are mine:
There’s the Audioquest brush (thinner, black one background) and the bigger Ursa Major brush (I think it was from Germany).
I view the Ursa Major as my main record brush. First of all it cleans better than any record brush I’ve used. Second, since I like the tactile nature of a nice turntable, I continue that with the desire for even the record brush to look good and feel good and substantial in my hand. Which this brush does. I always like feeling like I’m interacting with something of quality.
If a record is particularly dusty, I might start with the audioquest brush and finish with the Ursa Major. Or if I’ve just thrown on a new used record that hasn’t been washed yet I might give it a quick brush with the audioquest, saving the big brush for records that have already been washed.
I don't bother much about a few clicks and pops here and there; those are actually a little bit charming in a way.
But two of the out-of-the-factory-new records I bought have these greasy fingerprints(!), which surprised me a lot, and they make a fairly loud crackling noise with each turn of the record, which is pretty annoying. @Thomas_A said in a PM that those greasy fingerprints can be hard to remove without manual cleaning, so I guess I'm back on that track again. 
I still use the Watts Dust Bug to remove any surface dust. All the records have been cleaned with a vacuum RCM, the Dust Bug just is an extra.
I've measured the W&F with and without the Dust Bug and get the same number, so that's not a problem. I have removed the stiff nylon brush, however, as that was playing the record and its effect was audible.
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I've measured the W&F with and without the Dust Bug and get the same number, so that's not a problem. I have removed the stiff nylon brush, however, as that was playing the record and its effect was audible.
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I use a very simple brush from Danish AM, which I think works great.
At first, I used a brush from Dynavox that I got for free when buying my turntable, but that one left small pieces of hair on the record surface, so I want to tell everyone to avoid that one. Don't buy it and don't use it!
It looks like this:
At first, I used a brush from Dynavox that I got for free when buying my turntable, but that one left small pieces of hair on the record surface, so I want to tell everyone to avoid that one. Don't buy it and don't use it!
It looks like this:
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I love Buckingham Nicks era Mac a whole bunch. For me, it starts with this:
This album just recently got its hooks in me, had to snag the Rhino High Fidelity audiophile pressing. It's awesome and wondrous, mastered by Kevin Gray.
Listened to the double 45rpm Rumours today, so great in both music and fidelity, such a delight! Only have Mirage and Tango on digital but listened to them too, not as great but still very good enjoyable stuff.
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All the latest Reverse Osmosis home drinking water systems are now marketing a fourth or fifth final "Remineralizing" stage with claims of being it healthier or tasting better. Personally I think it may be a bunch of marketing snake-oil but for sure I'd avoid that final stage if using it to clean LP's. Why would you want to be putting a bunch of minerals back into the hyperclean water and into the grooves?
Good ole Uncle Waldemar was way ahead of the times for proper record handling in 1958
I use the Audioquest brush ... I was intrigued by the Hart Audio after some basic test performed by Fremer (https://www.analogplanet.com/content/big-dust)
But, the price was too high for a record brush, really.
But, the price was too high for a record brush, really.
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Yes, unfortunately most folks don't realize that PURE WATER is a solvent and does not conduct electricity.
I picked this up as well as it was a nice treat. I never owned a 70s copy. Not to bring CD up too much, but I have to give Rhino some credit. The CD version does not have any modern loudness war nonsense. It is very dynamic and the mastering for the record and CD seemed the same to me. That is a rarity for modern pop and rock remasters. I usually expect that from Jazz and Classical reissues.
it seems then the Clickrepair RT is the most effective way to have always a silent lp, even if building a standalone system with it probably costs as much as the Waxwing, but the latter has more functions
As I have been mixing my own recorded music for many years, I have used many different repair and noise-reducing programs, but none of them has ever been completely transparent. No matter how I’ve tried to fine trim the settings, they have always reduced some of finer details in the recordings, or left some sort of audible artifacts. That has left me thinking there are probably no noise or click removal programs out there that are truly transparent. A few clicks, pops, and noises doesn’t bother me anyway, but I think reducing the finer details takes away too much of the edge/crispiness in the recordings.
Six of one, half dozen of the other.
You'll never remove the bad without touching the good a bit.
Or just live with the issues.
Or just go digital and leave all that behind you.
How have you determined that? Most modern tool chains facilitate the ability to listen to what was removed. At moderate settings I find most don't touch anything audible at all.
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