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I 've found my Siouxsie & The Banshees 12" mixes (I loved and feared her back then :D) and wanted to find the four disc B-Sides CD box (Downside Up). £27 or so when newly released, they ran our years ago and surviving CD sets are now a hundred quid or more. At least some or most are on Youtube, but this influential band remains popular and I'd have thought the record company could run another batch off every so often, surely?
A couple of other nice B-sides collections from around the same era have met a similar fate — The Cure’s Join the Dots and The Jesus & Mary Chain’s Power of Negative Thinking. I can understand not wanting to go to the effort and expense of reprinting the sets in their original formats, but it’d be nice if they could release them in a simplified version along the lines of those 5 Album sets that Beggars Arkive puts out, with a small box that just fits the CDs in cardboard sleeves.
 
Throwing out another question out o’ curiosity:

What are some of your oldest records?

I guess I’m asking a twofold question:

1. In terms of when the music was actually recorded or when the album originally was released.

2. In terms of the physical album itself - what are some of your oldest records?

The vast majority of my records start late 60s to early 70s onward.

I noticed three actual physical records that were older than that, can’t even remember where I got them:

At Carnague Hall - Dave Brubeck Quartet 1963

GoldFinger soundtrack - 1964

In like Flint soundtrack - 1967

Aside from that the oldest actual recordings I have on vinyl records are generally re-releases. Not terribly surprising set of examples:

Kind of blue 1959

Time out 1959

Maiden Voyage - 1965

Chet Is Back - 1962

Blue Train - 1958
 
I have this Beethoven album that is a original mono that came out in 1952.
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I bought this Sinatra remaster that came out a couple months ago. Originally released in 1956.

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I was just listening to an Everest Prokofiev & Villa-Lobos from 1959 - dead quiet, sounds great.
I have "Kind of Blue" mono Columbia 6 eye - 1959
Early Bill Evans - Riverside - early 60's
Beatles Uk mono - parlaphone - "Please Please Me" 1963
Have many early 60's rock
Some Mozart and Beethoven trios, quartets and Sonata's from the mid to late 50's.
Of course lots of 70's and 80's .


It's amazing how 50 and 60 year ago Lp's still sound so good (regardless of how the 'Digital crowd feels !).
I have been playing them on my Idler driver Dual 1229 they sound just as good on the Lp12.

I wish I new some 'Digital friends to come over here and listen to these Lp's ?!
 
I have this Beethoven album that is a original mono that came out in 1952.
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I bought this Sinatra remaster that came out a couple months ago. Originally released in 1956.

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I have about a dozen original Sinatra Lp's - not a really big fan of him - there suppose to be a live album recorded in Paris which sounds interesting but very expensive.
 
I have about a dozen original Sinatra Lp's - not a really big fan of him - there suppose to be a live album recorded in Paris which sounds interesting but very expensive.
It’s all good! I’m not a huge fan either but this album in particular has hit after hit on it and always liked for that reason. Plus it gives me a reason to use the mono setting on my Waxwing lol
 
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I just found this one in my collection and the actual physical album is from 1961. It’s pretty noisy, but I can still sit through it and enjoy the music.

I forgot entirely that I still have a whole bunch of records that I got from a buddy who is obsessive about record collecting in the 90s, who gave me a whole bunch of his collection asking if I could store for him as he moved and then I didn’t really hear back from him.
So I’m not even sure of all the records stored in those boxes. Unfortunately, we had a flood in our storeroom and a whole bunch of those record boxes and the records themselves got soaked. I remember some I just had to throw out.
 
By the way, does anybody else make notes about records they own? For instance, using an app maybe the Discogs app?

I was buying so much library music at one point and since the music was really diverse, even within one record, it was hard to remember which records had what type of music. So after I catalogued all my records on Discogs I started making notes after I listened to each record, even if I just sampled the first side when I first got it - a note about the type of music, how enthusiastic I was about it, the sound quality and production quality, the condition of the record in terms of noise, etc., and whether I washed it or not.
Those notes have proven extremely helpful to me in navigating my library music.

I eventually started making more similar notes each time I got a new album.

I now use the Discographic app instead of Discogs, because it imports my discogs library with a more user-friendly interface.
Some of my notes are longer, but even a brief note like this can help remind me of what I liked about the album and what to expect:

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By the way, does anybody else make notes about records they own? For instance, using an app maybe the Discogs app?

I was buying so much library music at one point and since the music was really diverse, even within one record, it was hard to remember which records had what type of music. So after I catalogued all my records on Discogs I started making notes after I listened to each record, even if I just sampled the first side when I first got it - a note about the type of music, how enthusiastic I was about it, the sound quality and production quality, the condition of the record in terms of noise, etc., and whether I washed it or not.
Those notes have proven extremely helpful to me in navigating my library music.

I eventually started making more similar notes each time I got a new album.

I now use the Discographic app instead of Discogs, because it imports my discogs library with a more user-friendly interface.
Some of my notes are longer, but even a brief note like this can help remind me of what I liked about the album and what to expect:

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I use the Discogs app to log everything in and in the notes section, I put if they are thoroughly cleaned.
 
Throwing out another question out o’ curiosity:

What are some of your oldest records?

I guess I’m asking a twofold question:

1. In terms of when the music was actually recorded or when the album originally was released.

2. In terms of the physical album itself - what are some of your oldest records?

The vast majority of my records start late 60s to early 70s onward.

I noticed three actual physical records that were older than that, can’t even remember where I got them:

At Carnague Hall - Dave Brubeck Quartet 1963

GoldFinger soundtrack - 1964

In like Flint soundtrack - 1967

Aside from that the oldest actual recordings I have on vinyl records are generally re-releases. Not terribly surprising set of examples:

Kind of blue 1959

Time out 1959

Maiden Voyage - 1965

Chet Is Back - 1962

Blue Train - 1958
First off, I did collect 78s. The oldest were acoustic Feodor Chaliapin sides, horrible sounding recordings. Later, I was given a big expensive box of Chaliapin sides on some sub-species of PVC from Melodiya. They were still horrible sounding. I recall opening the box, it released the stench of Soviet bureaucracy.

I collected many different 78s, including a lot of Charlie Parker on Dial, Savoy, Comet, Musicraft, other imprints too obscure to recall. When my wife's "Aunt 'Vi' passed, nobody was interested in her 78s but me. She had an eclectic collection, mostly swing/dance sides, but also such jewels as "Who Put the Benzedrine in Mrs. Murphy's Ovaltine" by Harry "The Hipster" Gibson, B/W "I Stay Brown All Year Long" and the original 78 issue of "Earth Angel" by the Penguins. Being interested in the history of recording, I hunted down copies of the first LPs, though most were relatively uninteresting performances of classical music, "needledrops" of pre-existing 78 recordings. I recall "South Pacific" being a very early title.

A lot of my collection habits were formed by reading the Absolute Sound altogether too much. I was focusing on the first stereo London/Decca classical issues, the RCA "Living Stereo" series and the Mercury "Living Presence" series. For those that indulge, some of the most sonically holographic LP recordings, capturing both the sound of the instruments themselves and the venue in which they were playing in an eerie fashion. In that regard, my favorites were the Blue-backed Londons, with cinematic 3-D stereo imagery. Many of those recordings reappeared on the "Stereo Treasury" budget re-issue series, said to be pressed from the same stampers as the originals. The Peter Maag/LSO Mendelssohn records were particularly remarkable in that regard.

Somehow, I managed to be working in shops selling physical recorded media as the big revolutions in the market were happening. I was working at Wherehouse Records during "peak vinyl" in the mid-seventies, then Ray Avery's Rare Records as I became obsessed with Charlie Parker and buying the many 78s they had for only $1 a pop, like the magnificent Dizzy Gillespie "Manteca" with his Afro-Cuban Band on RCA, one of the most dynamic recordings I have heard in any medium. I worked in an Odyssey record store on Telegraph in Berkeley for a couple of months before the whole chain folded, three months after getting the job when a number of factors dragged a number of these record chains down. When I worked at Tower, Berkeley, 1984/1986, the transition to CDs had begun, the Tower Classical annex on Telegraph had a huge section of cut-outs, including practically everything on Harmonia Mundia France and a number of titles from Astree, an audiophile feast. When I started to work at The Musical Offering two years after that, the transition was nearly complete. That meant that Amoeba and Rasputin's were flooded with clean, barely played LPs for almost nothing, particularly if one was looking for classical titles. And, as of 1988, I still "knew" an all-analog chain sounded better. Only took me a couple more years, what with becoming a semi-professional recording engineer and the introduction of the DAT recorder, to realize that an all-analog chain might not be "all that". I used the microphone patterns and lay-outs of early stereo recordings, like those that were issued as "Shaded Dogs". And being a recording engineer worked for me until it didn't, another—and too personal—a tale.

You mention "Time Out" and "Kind of Blue". Had no problem getting Time Out, though, as I find it Kind of Boring, didn't pursue it much farther than buying a clean early pressing once and then ignoring it. I had been obsessively collecting the absolutely hypnotic KOB for decades, including decades when you could easily find minty six-eye stereo copies for around $5, which I did. Also owned a clean six-eye mono and an early SACD, can't recall if it was a single-layer SACD or not but it sounded great. The current CD also sounds great. An LP I loved as a child is the Ellington/Strayhorn/Tchaikovsky Nutcracker Suite. Steve Hoffman made a fabulous sounding LP remaster, like it better than the CD transfers.

But my true passion in instrumental Jazz is the incomparable "Bird". I got my job at Ray Avery's Rare Records in Glendale California, when I realized they had more Yardbird sides than anyone else in town, including the Wherehouse in Eagle Rock where I was working. I could easily find first issue clean first pressings of his Verve titles, but Rare Records also carried the superb Japanese Verve pressings of "Swedish Schnapps", "Now's the Time", "Bird 'n' Diz" and others. They also had the Sayoy box from Arista, the Dial box on Warner Brothers and the superior pressings of the Dial sessions from Spotlight UK, the best vinyl pressings of the Dial sides. They also had the original Dial sides on Dial, the 78s, usually for $1 each. I got an EP box of Bird's Big Band sessions on Verve while working there. Found a multi-disc 78 set of "Captain from Castile" in the dumpster on the way to work. I wheeled and dealed with Ray and got the highly collectible "KoKo" and "Now's the Time" on Savoy in the process. Not to mention the Ray Norvo 12" sides on Comet for only a buck a pop, the early Bid 'n' Diz collaborations on Musicraft, and the hilarious Slim Gaillard sides on I forget—what do you expect 50 years later, you young punks!


*


Actually the 1970s, but I digress.

Four years after bombing out in Berkeley, I had a job at a Borders, in charge of what was then the biggest inventory of CDs in Fresno, including that Tower Records down the street further south on Blackstone, later to be acquired by Rasputin's when Tower folded. 2001 was about the time I started at that job, a few years later Napster happened, the I-Pod happened, the Amazon tablets happened. You know the rest. By 2009 I was working for the IRS and LPs started to sound "mangy" while the entire Britney Spears catalog on CD could be found at Rasputin's for 25¢ a disc. Live by the hit, die by the hit. I guess plenty of folks were interested in Britney, until they weren't.

Which reminds me:


I managed to find plenty of HT gear at the best local thrift, got me a 5.1 system with an Oppo player that worked until it didn't and about three turntables that never did. Turntables were falling out of the sky and a lot landed in my yard. Very messy. This is when I fully entered the 21st century. One of the last LPs of mine that I had to dispose of—having decided that I had to make a clean break from an out-of-control addiction, that I had to quit cold turkey—was among the first bought in 1970, the Toscanini/NBC Symphony recordings of Haydn's "Surprise" and "Clock" symphonies, an object retained out of pure nostalgia. It certainly had nothing to do with its sound quality, which was vile, BTW.

I'm still eyeing the disposal of the last big thing in the wake of the next big thing. Playing paradox and learning to play behind the beat is the secret. We all know the next big thing creates FOMO, resulting in the last big thing getting unloaded:

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The next (current) big thing is streaming. Yesterday's purchases at the Lacey Public Library where I am a volunteer total $13 including Blu-Rays of "Inside Out", "Zootopia", "Aladdin (the original Robin Williams masterpiece), "The Good Dinosaur" (I'm sitting on the fence with this one), "Minions"—Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!, Cough, Cough, Cough (fall over), "The Martian", all three original "Star Wars" movies, albeit with the grotty digital "enhancements", "Finding Dory", the sequel to "Finding Nemo", which I am still looking for, "Guardians of the Galaxy" and finally the complete Essanay & Mutual shorts of Charlie Chaplin in a 7 DVD boxed (sorta) set.

I still have that collector's urge, but being an inveterate cheapskate, my collection habits move with the times.

Over to you, Ray.

* CATALOG NUMBER: 761
COUNTRY: US
LABEL: Bel-Tone Records
FORMAT: Shellac, 10", 78 RPM
YEAR: 1946
 
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I always thought I would go for a Linn if I bought a turntable, as my local HiFi store has been a long-running Linn dealer since 1985. It’s just that Linn’s turntables seem to be somewhat complicated to set up with the suspension for the chassis, and I don’t like the idea of having to rely on a dealer. It also seems to be an endless cycle of upgrades, and all these different parts are overwhelming for me as a vinyl beginner. It all looked so much simpler going for a direct-driven Technics, and I’m satisfied with that choice.

The Linn turntables are very beautiful machines, and I wouldn’t mind if my Technics looked like them as fine-looking furniture in my living room. Well, maybe someday… :)

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Spend £3500 on a qualifying Linn turntable product and get a free Karousel bearing...

Bargain :D
I always thought I would go for a Linn if I bought a turntable, as my local HiFi store has been a long-running Linn dealer since 1985. It’s just that Linn’s turntables seem to be somewhat complicated to set up with the suspension for the chassis, and I don’t like the idea of having to rely on a dealer. It also seems to be an endless cycle of upgrades, and all these different parts are overwhelming for me as a vinyl beginner. It all looked so much simpler going for a direct-driven Technics, and I’m satisfied with that choice.

The Linn turntables are very beautiful machines, and I wouldn’t mind if my Technics looked like them as fine-looking furniture in my living room. Well, maybe someday… :)

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They always were expensive, especially since they increased UK prices to match EU prices in the mid 80s, but now I think it's ridiculous.
 
First off, I did collect 78s. The oldest were acoustic Feodor Chaliapin sides, horrible sounding recordings. Later, I was given a big expensive box of Chaliapin sides on some sub-species of PVC from Melodiya. They were still horrible sounding. I recall opening the box, it released the stench of Soviet bureaucracy.

I collected many different 78s, including a lot of Charlie Parker on Dial, Savoy, Comet, Musicraft, other imprints too obscure to recall. When my wife's "Aunt 'Vi' passed, nobody was interested in her 78s but me. She had an eclectic collection, mostly swing/dance sides, but also such jewels as "Who Put the Benzedrine in Mrs. Murphy's Ovaltine" by Harry "The Hipster" Gibson, B/W "I Stay Brown All Year Long" and the original 78 issue of "Earth Angel" by the Penguins. Being interested in the history of recording, I hunted down copies of the first LPs, though most were relatively uninteresting performances of classical music, "needledrops" of pre-existing 78 recordings. I recall "South Pacific" being a very early title.

A lot of my collection habits were formed by reading the Absolute Sound altogether too much. I was focusing on the first stereo London/Decca classical issues, the RCA "Living Stereo" series and the Mercury "Living Presence" series. For those that indulge, some of the most sonically holographic LP recordings, capturing both the sound of the instruments themselves and the venue in which they were playing in an eerie fashion. In that regard, my favorites were the Blue-backed Londons, with cinematic 3-D stereo imagery. Many of those recordings reappeared on the "Stereo Treasury" budget re-issue series, said to be pressed from the same stampers as the originals. The Peter Maag/LSO Mendelssohn records were particularly remarkable in that regard.

Somehow, I managed to be working in shops selling physical recorded media as the big revolutions in the market were happening. I was working at Wherehouse Records during "peak vinyl" in the mid-seventies, then Ray Avery's Rare Records as I became obsessed with Charlie Parker and buying the many 78s they had for only $1 a pop, like the magnificent Dizzy Gillespie "Manteca" with his Afro-Cuban Band on RCA, one of the most dynamic recordings I have heard in any medium. I worked in an Odyssey record store on Telegraph in Berkeley for a couple of months before the whole chain folded, three months after getting the job when a number of factors dragged a number of these record chains down. When I worked at Tower, Berkeley, 1984/1986, the transition to CDs had begun, the Tower Classical annex on Telegraph had a huge section of cut-outs, including practically everything on Harmonia Mundia France and a number of titles from Astree, an audiophile feast. When I started to work at The Musical Offering two years after that, the transition was nearly complete. That meant that Amoeba and Rasputin's were flooded with clean, barely played LPs for almost nothing, particularly if one was looking for classical titles. And, as of 1988, I still "knew" an all-analog chain sounded better. Only took me a couple more years, what with becoming a semi-professional recording engineer and the introduction of the DAT recorder, to realize that an all-analog chain might not be "all that". I used the microphone patterns and lay-outs of early stereo recordings, like those that were issued as "Shaded Dogs". And being a recording engineer worked for me until it didn't, another—and too personal—a tale.

You mention "Time Out" and "Kind of Blue". Had no problem getting Time Out, though, as I find it Kind of Boring, didn't pursue it much farther than buying a clean early pressing once and then ignoring it. I had been obsessively collecting the absolutely hypnotic KOB for decades, including decades when you could easily find minty six-eye stereo copies for around $5, which I did. Also owned a clean six-eye mono and an early SACD, can't recall if it was a single-layer SACD or not but it sounded great. The current CD also sounds great. An LP I loved as a child is the Ellington/Strayhorn/Tchaikovsky Nutcracker Suite. Steve Hoffman made a fabulous sounding LP remaster, like it better than the CD transfers.

But my true passion in instrumental Jazz is the incomparable "Bird". I got my job at Ray Avery's Rare Records in Glendale California, when I realized they had more Yardbird sides than anyone else in town, including the Wherehouse in Eagle Rock where I was working. I could easily find first issue clean first pressings of his Verve titles, but Rare Records also carried the superb Japanese Verve pressings of "Swedish Schnapps", "Now's the Time", "Bird 'n' Diz" and others. They also had the Sayoy box from Arista, the Dial box on Warner Brothers and the superior pressings of the Dial sessions from Spotlight UK, the best vinyl pressings of the Dial sides. They also had the original Dial sides on Dial, the 78s, usually for $1 each. I got an EP box of Bird's Big Band sessions on Verve while working there. Found a multi-disc 78 set of "Captain from Castile" in the dumpster on the way to work. I wheeled and dealed with Ray and got the highly collectible "KoKo" and "Now's the Time" on Savoy in the process. Not to mention the Ray Norvo 12" sides on Comet for only a buck a pop, the early Bid 'n' Diz collaborations on Musicraft, and the hilarious Slim Gaillard sides on I forget what do you expect 50 years later you young punks!



Actually the 1970s, but I digress.

Four years after bombing out in Berkeley, I had a job at a Borders, in charge of what was then the biggest inventory of CDs in Fresno, including that Tower Records down the street further south on Blackstone, later to be acquired by Rasputin's when Tower folded. 2001 was about the time I started at that job, a few years later Napster happened, the I-Pod happened, the Amazon tablets happened. You know the rest. By 2009 I was working for the IRS and LPs started to sound "mangy" while the entire Britney Spears catalog on CD could be found at Rasputin's for 25¢ a disc. Live by the hit, die by the hit. I guess plenty of folks were interested in Britney, until they weren't.

Which reminds me:


I managed to find plenty of HT gear at the best local thrift, got me a 5.1 system with an Oppo player that worked until it didn't and about three turntables that never did. This was a time when turntables were falling out of the sky and a lot landed in my yard. Very messy. This is when I fully entered the 21st century. One of the last LPs of mine that I had to dispose of—having decided that I had to make a clean break from an out-of-control addiction, that I had to quit cold turkey—was among the first bought in 1970, the Toscanini/NBC Symphony recordings of Haydn's "Surprise" and "Clock" symphonies, an object retained out of pure nostalgia. It certainly had nothing to do with its sound quality, which was vile, BTW.

I'm still eyeing the disposal of the last big thing in the wake of the next big thing. Playing paradox and learning to play behind the beat is the secret. We all know the next big thing creates FOMO, resulting in the last big thing getting unloaded:

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The next (current) big thing is streaming. Yesterday's purchases at the Lacey Public Library where I am a volunteer total $13 including Blu-Rays of "Inside Out", "Zootopia", "Aladdin (the original Robin Williams masterpiece), "The Good Dinosaur" (I'm sitting on the fence with this one), "Minions"—Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!, Cough, Cough, Cough (fall over), "The Martian", all three original "Star Wars" movies, albeit with the grotty digital "enhancements", "Finding Dory", the sequel to "Finding Nemo", which I am still looking for, "Guardians of the Galaxy" and finally the complete Essanay & Mutual shorts of Charlie Chaplin in a 7 DVD boxed (sorta) set.

I still have that collector's urge, but being an inveterate cheapskate, my collection habits move with the times.

Over to you, Ray.
That's a lot! I am considerably more modest - as purchases never got out of control. My best acquisition of the '80's, when folks were ditching their record collections - was $5 for a mint copy of "Jazz at the Pawnshop". I still enjoy listening to that record!
 
That looks like a serious turntable. What model is it?
Nottingham Analogue Mentor with original Mentor arm. The firm abandoned the 'Ton-Up-Rega' style on their upper models and the replacement as such is now called the Dias (fifty years back, the late founder made a deck called The Dias, but it's nothing like the current example) -

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The Graphite loaded top platter renders a disc clamp totally unnecessary although some owners use them through force of habit. Even playing a warped record on such a platter, one can literally thump a playing disc and barely a 'tap' gets through to the stylus. The only thing putting me off these days are the numerous dust traps around 'oil-rig' models like this and yours - and our house is incredibly dusty ;) Sonically, the Dias is as inert as a turntable can be, the tonearms developed from the Mentor arm I had and using an arm pipe from an arrow shaft or similar I gather...
 
I never had a large Lp collection having them stolen twice at college along with all my equipment. My college roommate a musical genius played keyboards along with a vast knowledge of classic rock/folk/jazz. In the 90's he kept harping on me to get into vinyl as there so many records to be found used at great prices. I was lucky to live in the Boston area with so many used record stores. So I scored so many great records from the mid 90's to early 2000's before the current vinyl revival started to happen. My first decent turntable was the Rega P3 with a nice high-end Benz-micro cartridge. I still have the P3 and the Benz is now my Lp12, Grado on the P3. It's expensive for now for new vinyl people getting into this hobby with used and new Lp's. The good old days when LP's were a steal are long gone. Streaming and digital for me is just boring as it is still special to drop the needle on the Lp wait a few seconds then the sound comes on.
 
For a while during my student days I needed to plan routes through the city where in was studying that avoided used record shops since otherwise I had to fast for a few days at the end of the month.

There was one shop where the proprietor only knew mainstream music. I bought nice copies of Can's "Monster Movie" and Joy Division's "Unknown Pleasures" for 1 EUR each.
 
While listening I’m usually inspired to browse the internet in search of facts and stories about the music, often down tangentially related rabbit holes.
 
That's a lot! I am considerably more modest - as purchases never got out of control. My best acquisition of the '80's, when folks were ditching their record collections - was $5 for a mint copy of "Jazz at the Pawnshop". I still enjoy listening to that record!
You could trip over them in the used bins at Amoeba, circa 1990.
 
You could trip over them in the used bins at Amoeba, circa 1990.
I brought Pawnshop over to an audio friends house as a test play on a table I had setup for him. After he heard it, he had to have a copy. The reissue was quite a bit more than $5.
I like the album a lot, not sure I would pay $90 for it. Mostly I look for the now rare finds at used record stores, flea markets, thrift stores, etc.
 
First off, I did collect 78s. The oldest were acoustic Feodor Chaliapin sides, horrible sounding recordings. Later, I was given a big expensive box of Chaliapin sides on some sub-species of PVC from Melodiya. They were still horrible sounding. I recall opening the box, it released the stench of Soviet bureaucracy.

I collected many different 78s, including a lot of Charlie Parker on Dial, Savoy, Comet, Musicraft, other imprints too obscure to recall. When my wife's "Aunt 'Vi' passed, nobody was interested in her 78s but me. She had an eclectic collection, mostly swing/dance sides, but also such jewels as "Who Put the Benzedrine in Mrs. Murphy's Ovaltine" by Harry "The Hipster" Gibson, B/W "I Stay Brown All Year Long" and the original 78 issue of "Earth Angel" by the Penguins. Being interested in the history of recording, I hunted down copies of the first LPs, though most were relatively uninteresting performances of classical music, "needledrops" of pre-existing 78 recordings. I recall "South Pacific" being a very early title.

A lot of my collection habits were formed by reading the Absolute Sound altogether too much. I was focusing on the first stereo London/Decca classical issues, the RCA "Living Stereo" series and the Mercury "Living Presence" series. For those that indulge, some of the most sonically holographic LP recordings, capturing both the sound of the instruments themselves and the venue in which they were playing in an eerie fashion. In that regard, my favorites were the Blue-backed Londons, with cinematic 3-D stereo imagery. Many of those recordings reappeared on the "Stereo Treasury" budget re-issue series, said to be pressed from the same stampers as the originals. The Peter Maag/LSO Mendelssohn records were particularly remarkable in that regard.

Somehow, I managed to be working in shops selling physical recorded media as the big revolutions in the market were happening. I was working at Wherehouse Records during "peak vinyl" in the mid-seventies, then Ray Avery's Rare Records as I became obsessed with Charlie Parker and buying the many 78s they had for only $1 a pop, like the magnificent Dizzy Gillespie "Manteca" with his Afro-Cuban Band on RCA, one of the most dynamic recordings I have heard in any medium. I worked in an Odyssey record store on Telegraph in Berkeley for a couple of months before the whole chain folded, three months after getting the job when a number of factors dragged a number of these record chains down. When I worked at Tower, Berkeley, 1984/1986, the transition to CDs had begun, the Tower Classical annex on Telegraph had a huge section of cut-outs, including practically everything on Harmonia Mundia France and a number of titles from Astree, an audiophile feast. When I started to work at The Musical Offering two years after that, the transition was nearly complete. That meant that Amoeba and Rasputin's were flooded with clean, barely played LPs for almost nothing, particularly if one was looking for classical titles. And, as of 1988, I still "knew" an all-analog chain sounded better. Only took me a couple more years, what with becoming a semi-professional recording engineer and the introduction of the DAT recorder, to realize that an all-analog chain might not be "all that". I used the microphone patterns and lay-outs of early stereo recordings, like those that were issued as "Shaded Dogs". And being a recording engineer worked for me until it didn't, another—and too personal—a tale.

You mention "Time Out" and "Kind of Blue". Had no problem getting Time Out, though, as I find it Kind of Boring, didn't pursue it much farther than buying a clean early pressing once and then ignoring it. I had been obsessively collecting the absolutely hypnotic KOB for decades, including decades when you could easily find minty six-eye stereo copies for around $5, which I did. Also owned a clean six-eye mono and an early SACD, can't recall if it was a single-layer SACD or not but it sounded great. The current CD also sounds great. An LP I loved as a child is the Ellington/Strayhorn/Tchaikovsky Nutcracker Suite. Steve Hoffman made a fabulous sounding LP remaster, like it better than the CD transfers.

But my true passion in instrumental Jazz is the incomparable "Bird". I got my job at Ray Avery's Rare Records in Glendale California, when I realized they had more Yardbird sides than anyone else in town, including the Wherehouse in Eagle Rock where I was working. I could easily find first issue clean first pressings of his Verve titles, but Rare Records also carried the superb Japanese Verve pressings of "Swedish Schnapps", "Now's the Time", "Bird 'n' Diz" and others. They also had the Sayoy box from Arista, the Dial box on Warner Brothers and the superior pressings of the Dial sessions from Spotlight UK, the best vinyl pressings of the Dial sides. They also had the original Dial sides on Dial, the 78s, usually for $1 each. I got an EP box of Bird's Big Band sessions on Verve while working there. Found a multi-disc 78 set of "Captain from Castile" in the dumpster on the way to work. I wheeled and dealed with Ray and got the highly collectible "KoKo" and "Now's the Time" on Savoy in the process. Not to mention the Ray Norvo 12" sides on Comet for only a buck a pop, the early Bid 'n' Diz collaborations on Musicraft, and the hilarious Slim Gaillard sides on I forget what do you expect 50 years later you young punks!



Actually the 1970s, but I digress.

Four years after bombing out in Berkeley, I had a job at a Borders, in charge of what was then the biggest inventory of CDs in Fresno, including that Tower Records down the street further south on Blackstone, later to be acquired by Rasputin's when Tower folded. 2001 was about the time I started at that job, a few years later Napster happened, the I-Pod happened, the Amazon tablets happened. You know the rest. By 2009 I was working for the IRS and LPs started to sound "mangy" while the entire Britney Spears catalog on CD could be found at Rasputin's for 25¢ a disc. Live by the hit, die by the hit. I guess plenty of folks were interested in Britney, until they weren't.

Which reminds me:


I managed to find plenty of HT gear at the best local thrift, got me a 5.1 system with an Oppo player that worked until it didn't and about three turntables that never did. Turntables were falling out of the sky and a lot landed in my yard. Very messy. This is when I fully entered the 21st century. One of the last LPs of mine that I had to dispose of—having decided that I had to make a clean break from an out-of-control addiction, that I had to quit cold turkey—was among the first bought in 1970, the Toscanini/NBC Symphony recordings of Haydn's "Surprise" and "Clock" symphonies, an object retained out of pure nostalgia. It certainly had nothing to do with its sound quality, which was vile, BTW.

I'm still eyeing the disposal of the last big thing in the wake of the next big thing. Playing paradox and learning to play behind the beat is the secret. We all know the next big thing creates FOMO, resulting in the last big thing getting unloaded:

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The next (current) big thing is streaming. Yesterday's purchases at the Lacey Public Library where I am a volunteer total $13 including Blu-Rays of "Inside Out", "Zootopia", "Aladdin (the original Robin Williams masterpiece), "The Good Dinosaur" (I'm sitting on the fence with this one), "Minions"—Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!, Cough, Cough, Cough (fall over), "The Martian", all three original "Star Wars" movies, albeit with the grotty digital "enhancements", "Finding Dory", the sequel to "Finding Nemo", which I am still looking for, "Guardians of the Galaxy" and finally the complete Essanay & Mutual shorts of Charlie Chaplin in a 7 DVD boxed (sorta) set.

I still have that collector's urge, but being an inveterate cheapskate, my collection habits move with the times.

Over to you, Ray.

That’s really something! Your years of deep experience in the physical media world always amazes me.

And this cracked me up :D :

but also such jewels as "Who Put the Benzedrine in Mrs. Murphy's Ovaltine" by Harry "The Hipster"
 
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