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The Case Against OLED

Never called using those applications, I always call directly and there latency is a non issue. As a German I am also not in the habit of doing cross continent calls, so geographical distance may play a part as well.
Yeah but then we instead have the sample rate issue, so 8khz or 16khz depending if your calling with GSM or VoLTE, so still not perfect but good enough for most people I guess.
 
Yeah but then we instead have the sample rate issue, so 8khz or 16khz depending if your calling with GSM or VoLTE, so still not perfect but good enough for most people I guess.
Frankly: as long as I properly understand the other party, the phone served it's purpose.
Sometimes, reception quality is so hilariously bad that you can't even do that and it sounds as if a toilet is flushed. :'D
 
Frankly: as long as I properly understand the other party, the phone served it's purpose.
Sometimes, reception quality is so hilariously bad that you can't even do that and it sounds as if a toilet is flushed. :'D
Yeah, I was just going back to what I was what I was writing about before that at least I rarely talk in the phone because of these small and big "barriers", like the bandwidth in the instance.
But yeah then there's other things that affects the call quality as well, reception, environment, microphones, noise cancelling etc. All can add up to a big mess for sure!
 
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Works both ways. If you are not in your home and need 911, that reliable landline is of no use. If you have a cell phone, at least more places and you need 911 you'll get it when there is no land line. A decade back I ran across a pair of vehicles on a rarely travelled back road that had a head on collision. A man in a truck was bleeding badly, and a lady was pinned inside the car. I was able to call for paramedics which got there in 15 minutes. I had slowed the bleeding and a coworker with me calmed the lady. No on else came along in that time. I don't think the man would have lived otherwise.

Well, of course I also have a cell phone. But millions and probably hundreds of millions who routinely use cell phones while out in the world don’t have reliable cell service inside their abode, either because they live in a fringe coverage area, as I do, or a hilly area with limited line of sight, as I do, or an area filled with politically active anti-technologists who effectively oppose cell towers, as I do, or in a building made of concrete and steel with filmed green-approved windows that turn their flats into Faraday cages, as I do not.

Rick “different requirements for different use cases” Denney
 
My land line worked very well during 223 MPH gust winds. I would trade the cell phone for the landline in a nanosecond. Mine had an answer machine since 1970 something. That is still all that I need.
I resisted getting a cell phone for many years due to the high costs, etc. There was very little time I couldn't be reached in an emergency that I was wasn't at arms length from a landline either at work or home. I finally acquired my first cell phone when costs came way down simply for the safety factor of the times I'd be out on the road on my motorcycle and might need some form of roadside assistance. In those 25 years I've needed it twice, once for a flat tire and once for a dead charging system. Otherwise I hate being on a communication leash, when I want to communicate with someone, I will. Call me and if no answer leave a message. I'm also attentive to my email and that's more than enough for me.
 
And saying there is something seriously wrong with me and my generation is quite rude and actually quite stupid, I mean it was your generations job to raise us, so what seriously wrong did YOU do? :rolleyes:
Sorry if your offended but when 6 people can't sit down to a dinner in a restaurant without all of them having their faces buried in a phone
there's definitely something wrong with their social kills.
 
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Well, of course I also have a cell phone. But millions and probably hundreds of millions who routinely use cell phones while out in the world don’t have reliable cell service inside their abode, either because they live in a fringe coverage area, as I do, or a hilly area with limited line of sight, as I do, or an area filled with politically active anti-technologists who effectively oppose cell towers, as I do, or in a building made of concrete and steel with filmed green-approved windows that turn their flats into Faraday cages, as I do not.

Rick “different requirements for different use cases” Denney
So why do you oppose cell phone towers and then take a dim view of cell phone service while using that service?
 
Works both ways. If you are not in your home and need 911, that reliable landline is of no use. If you have a cell phone, at least more places and you need 911 you'll get it when there is no land line. A decade back I ran across a pair of vehicles on a rarely travelled back road that had a head on collision. A man in a truck was bleeding badly, and a lady was pinned inside the car. I was able to call for paramedics which got there in 15 minutes. I had slowed the bleeding and a coworker with me calmed the lady. No on else came along in that time. I don't think the man would have lived otherwise.
D, No ones lobbying against cell phones, we all have them, they can be and are life savers.
It's the current addiction to them and the very poor judgment many have with their use that's being discussed.
That and the very poor sound quality and connection reliability of the current technology.
Talking to people with them mostly drives me up a wall.
 
Sorry if your offended but when 6 people can't sit down to a dinner in a restaurant without all of them having their faces buried in a phone
there's definitely something wrong with their social kills.
Isn't that something? Years ago, my group of best friends (now it's 3 of us left) decided that we'd always keep our cell phones away while we spent time together. No constant checking for messages. No Google search lookups when somebody wanted to add a fact to the conversation - either you remember or you don't, and it's amazing how many things actually you end o remembering when you're having a good discussion... the whole thing about "Was it...?" and everybody's gray cells start working hard and -voila!- you remember, you made your brain work hard! There is far more satisfaction in that than in constantly looking stuff up on the internet. My GF is a total smartphone addict, but she knows I hate it. For work, I am attached to communication devices and completely available 12 hours a day, basically, and I hate to perpetuate that into my "me" time. But we'll do the New York Times crossword together.

Then there's also the utterly annoying people that feel like sitting down in a social setting and loudly talk with whoever it is carrying a stupid conversation, sometimes even on speakerphone, or that sit down with the volume turned up playing a game or music... UGH!

I feel like I am being a bit hypocritical given the fact that here I am on an internet discussions forum, and some of you guys I feel like I know at this stage! :)
 
So why do you oppose cell phone towers and then take a dim view of cell phone service while using that service?
Read that again. I don’t oppose towers at all—the local politicians have seen a steady stream of communication from me expressing the need. It’s the political heavy hitters that live around me. My county has the highest median income in the USA—lots of wealthy and politically savvy heavy hitters trying to preserve the rural landscape, apparently, who give mundane communications tasks to “their people”. :)

I’ve said this before here, but the Internet communications standard when I moved here was dial-up for residential customers, ISDN for most commercial customers, and T1 for bigger concerns. Well, except for UUNET and AOL, both of which were headquartered in this vicinity. They got what they wanted. Now, we are the land of data centers, but that’s at the other end of the county.

But I have the same problem in any hotel room in Manhattan, for example, and I have two phones, one on AT&T and the other on Verizon.

My point, made here many times, is that cellular still doesn’t fulfill the requirements for all legitimate use cases.

Of course, this has precisely zip to do with OLED, except that I have not much use for 4K capability.

Rick “whose first cell phone was a government-supplied bag phone in 1988” Denney
 
Sorry if your offended but when 6 people can't sit down to a dinner in a restaurant without all of them having their faces buried in a phone
there's definitely something wrong with their social kills.
Satire aside, does that actually happen?

Usually people bust out their phones when they want to show off / take pics or are unsure about sth. and want to look it up on the web to continue discussions.

As for constant message checking: yeah, that happens. Esp. with young people in a fresh romance. For some reason people are conditioned to "I received a text MUST ANSWER IMMEDIATELY OR SHE WILL BE MAD!11"

Personally, I consider it obnoxious and I train everyone I have contact with, that I check messages on MY terms and MY terms only. If you send me a text, expect several hours of latency.
I am very much against the "always open for communications" mantra that gets postulated these days. Being incommunicado is a blessing.
 
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Personally, I consider it obnoxious and I train everyone I have contact with, that I check messages on MY terms and MY terms only. If you send me a text, expect several hours of latency.
I am very much against the "always open for communications" mantra that gets postulated these days. Being incommunicado is a blessing.
We have drifted waaaay off discussing OLED issues :) but I think that should be the default expectation *everybody* should understand. No one can expect me to react immediately to any notification that isn't urgently critical. Even with a new romance, I tell her I will not stay in virtual communication all day. I like to concentrate on things I do. With work it's mandatory, but also when I get home and listen to music or read... I leave my phone on the kitchen counter. I never-ever take my phone into my bedroom. Other than a modest (but very good sounding) system, there are zero electronics allowed there.
 
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We have drifted waaaay off discussing OLED issues :)
I'm kinda flabbergasted that no moderator yelled at us yet. :'D

Returning to the panel discussion: I really wish the Industry would get a move on with micro-LED. I want OLED advantages with static content compatibility. Current projections place micro-LED mass market adoption beyond 2030. I'm tired of blooming in dark game scenes, especially with HDR. ._.
 
Read that again. I don’t oppose towers at all—the local politicians have seen a steady stream of communication from me expressing the need. It’s the political heavy hitters that live around me. My county has the highest median income in the USA—lots of wealthy and politically savvy heavy hitters trying to preserve the rural landscape, apparently, who give mundane communications tasks to “their people”. :)

I’ve said this before here, but the Internet communications standard when I moved here was dial-up for residential customers, ISDN for most commercial customers, and T1 for bigger concerns. Well, except for UUNET and AOL, both of which were headquartered in this vicinity. They got what they wanted. Now, we are the land of data centers, but that’s at the other end of the county.

But I have the same problem in any hotel room in Manhattan, for example, and I have two phones, one on AT&T and the other on Verizon.

My point, made here many times, is that cellular still doesn’t fulfill the requirements for all legitimate use cases.

Of course, this has precisely zip to do with OLED, except that I have not much use for 4K capability.

Rick “whose first cell phone was a government-supplied bag phone in 1988” Denney
The wording was ambiguous. I see apparently you meant people who are against towers such as where you live. Not that you were.
 
Sorry if your offended but when 6 people can't sit down to a dinner in a restaurant without all of them having their faces buried in a phone
there's definitely something wrong with their social kills.
Well yeah, I was saying that people are different and explained why I prefer not to talk on the phone and that I prefer text or IRL instead, and all I get back is "something is seriously wrong with you!". That is not the proper way of talking to people, especially since that ironically makes you and your generation look bad.
 
Satire aside, does that actually happen?
Absolutely, I see it all the time in restaurants, etc.
People actually have to be asked to shut off their phones in the cinema and I still
see the bright screens flashing all around the theater in front of me. :mad:

Well yeah, I was saying that people are different and explained why I prefer not to talk on the phone and that I prefer text or IRL instead, and all I get back is "something is seriously wrong with you!". That is not the proper way of talking to people, especially since that ironically makes you and your generation look bad.
:facepalm: :p
 
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why don't you just get an oled?
Because most of the stuff I do on my PC involves static content. Long hours of Desktop use, many, many hours in Blender (Viewport is dynamic but the surrounding UI is not). OLED simply can't handle that for long and I am not in the mood to replace the screen due to uneven wear after a year or so.
People actually have to be asked to shut off their phones in the cinema and I still
see the bright screens flashing all around the theater in front of me. :mad:
Oookay. The Cinema one is just retarded, agreed. Restaurants I can kinda understand, sometimes the discussions simply revolve around topics you're not interested in, so I'd zone out too. Then again I avoid restaurants and people gatherings. Having multiple discussions running simultaneously and 5-6 humans blare against each other & copious amount of background noise is super taxing.
 
Because most of the stuff I do on my PC involves static content. Long hours of Desktop use, many, many hours in Blender (Viewport is dynamic but the surrounding UI is not). OLED simply can't handle that for long and I am not in the mood to replace the screen due to uneven wear after a year or so.

Oookay. The Cinema one is just retarded, agreed. Restaurants I can kinda understand, sometimes the discussions simply revolve around topics you're not interested in, so I'd zone out too. Then again I avoid restaurants and people gatherings. Having multiple discussions running simultaneously and 5-6 humans blare against each other & copious amount of background noise is super taxing.
I have a LG B7 from 2017 with quite many hours of Blender and other static Windows things, and also lots of movies and Youtube but still no visible burnin (except some on test colours like pure pink or whatever) :)
 
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