Believe it or not, some even wiser men actually made this test on a large scale, ran statistics on the results, then developed a theory and proceeded to write a book about it. Bonkers right?
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Tekton M-Lore Speaker Review
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And just because something might not measure perfectly does mean it actually sounds _bad_. People have for decades loved what's considered objectively "bad", so the bar for what people generally think is good audio is quite a bit lower than what ASR folks seem to believe.
Having that said it's nowadays quite easy getting even better sound than that low bar, and that's partly because of ASR and the message folks here have been pushing to the industry and the other audiophile communities
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It would be even more bonkers if, in that book, they laid out a set of criteria that could be used to accurately evaluate a speaker from measurements so that consumers could decide if it is a candidate for their use case before even hearing it. Such a missed opportunity!
Since he struggled with respecting ASR rules and has found his enlightenment elsewhere, hope he finds some peace and enjoyment there!
maybe this
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Measurements for speaker Elac Debut 3.0 Floorstand DF63
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‘Preferred sound’ is not a criterion here. This place is about measurements and what is objectively the best performance. Whether we ‘prefer’ such sound is irrelevant.
Easier to dial in the ‘preferred’ sound to a well performing speaker than try to correct a flawed one as well.
But I’ve quite enjoyed some likely objectively crappy speakers over the years myself.
The non-flush mounted woofers really bother me...Not directly related, but I love to peek at Tekton’s pictures to see what’s around the speakers:
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Here you can see Tekton’s latest precision measurement instruments:
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I’m joking of course!It is probably used to cut the foam when they pack the speakers for shipping …. But? … Wait … they need to measure the packaging foam, but not the speaker sound ???
They really are just box stuffers. White van speakers with a novel idea about the tweeters. No science behind it. Got lucky because most people that go to audio shows don’t have a clue either. Impressed by glitz. So proud to be a member of such a largely idiotic ‘hobby’.
Roland68
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It interferes not only with you but, above all, with the tweeter—or rather, everything it radiates—as well as the radiation from the woofer/midrange driver itself.
This will also show up as a disadvantage in the measurements.
It makes me wonder what thickness wood they use. Most 5-8” woofers can easily be flush mounted in 18mm material, this obviously becomes more difficult as material thickness decreases. Or like you say, it’s probably just a case of throwing drivers in boxes and charging x1000
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I'm not surprised by the woofer mounting so much as it being a pro-audio woofer, going by the accordion surround.
Any idea which one it is?
fpitas
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No, I'm not up on the pro stuff. The TechTalk guys made some reasonable speakers using pro drivers, but the FR of the drivers was almost always secondary to power handling. Which makes sense.
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It is posted earlier in this thread; it is an inexpensive Eminence PA driver…
Tekton M-Lore Speaker Review
This is a review, listening tests, equalization and detailed measurements of the Tekton (Mini) M-Lore speaker. It is on kind loan from a member and costs $US 750 a pair. As you see, this is a mini-tower speaker if there is such a thing. I had to put a 6 inch stand under it to get the tweeter...
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Was hesitant without measurements but Polk speakers have been known to measure well. These would be my choice rather than Tektons…
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Signature Elite ES55 Tower Speakers | Polk Audio
The Signature Elite ES55 floor standing speaker features a 1" tweeter and two 6.5" drivers to enhance your music, movies and gaming experiences.
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The measurements of this speaker are not praiseworthy, but they are better than several others we've seen that are orders of magnitude more expensive. I can easily believe that people could find them enjoyable. But the attitude and actions of the owner have been abysmal, so any Tekton speaker is a total non-starter for me.
Would hope that we all respect individual opinion and preference as long as is kept within reason.
Normally, would prefer to move on in a more positive manner, but this case is bit more extreme so it bears some added details. In this case, the member not only struggled with respecting others but was also rather crass. He has pushed a pro-Tekton agenda here more than once. Did not discover this until he did not respond to my post, but has he had a troubling past history.
As I reviewed his history, he had previous warnings regarding inappropriate behavior from other moderators. One aspect of this is that many of his previous questionable posts had been deleted so only staff members could see them. Once I uncovered the length at which he was promoting Tekton, his most recent claim appeared to be more of the same. When he posted the other forum quote and ignored all the prior member questions, was pretty clear he was a fanboy troll. Along with the past behavior complaints, decided it was time for him to seek “other forum opportunities”.
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I'm not sure you're replying to the correct post, but I get the reasoning.
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Flush mounted woofers cost more!
So much so that it is still too costly for their top-of-line models.Flush mounted woofers cost more!
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