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Then please explain to me why it needs an adapter to be mounted in a normal head shell?
Could it be that the truth that you do not seem to grasp is that it ONLY CAME AS A T4P?
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That’s not an adapter - it’s just the body style. Same as ML120 and ML140, the latter purported to be what the Ultra 300 and 300 were based on. I don’t see any evidence of any T4P Ultra models. @dlaloum likely has more specific knowledge on these.
 
That’s not an adapter - it’s just the body style. Same as ML120 and ML140, the latter purported to be what the Ultra 300 and 300 were based on. I don’t see any evidence of any T4P Ultra models. @dlaloum likely has more specific knowledge on these.
With you and dlaloum being the about the only 2 I respect about this (as I have read much of both of your stuff elsewhere) then I must have the only 300 ULTRA P-Mount in existence.
And I have never (since I have been looking in 1984) seen one that was not P-Mount. Granted, once I had one, I looked no further [and, at the time, it was not particularly hard to find one]).
 
With you and dlaloum being the about the only 2 I respect about this (as I have read much of both of your stuff elsewhere) then I must have the only 300 ULTRA P-Mount in existence.
And I have never (since I have been looking in 1984) seen one that was not P-Mount. Granted, once I had one, I looked no further [and, at the time, it was not particularly hard to find one]).
But the picture you posted is unequivocally not a p-mount. Is there a picture of one, anywhere?
 
That’s not an adapter - it’s just the body style. Same as ML120 and ML140, the latter purported to be what the Ultra 300 and 300 were based on. I don’t see any evidence of any T4P Ultra models. @dlaloum likely has more specific knowledge on these.
Since I am not at my mother'
But the picture you posted is unequivocally not a p-mount. Is there a picture of one, anywhere?

I have been trying to find one, to no avail. On my SL-M3 at the moment I have a Technics P33 on it. At this house the only other cart I have on hand is a GRADO P-Mount Prestige GOLD 3 (GOLD 3) (whatever the heck that means) that arrived a few weeks ago. My other carts are at my mother's house and I am not going to get to there until Jan 10.
Her carts are for her DUAL 1229 and are intermingled with mine in a drawer of various smaller things like micrometers, calipers and carts.
At that point, I will know for sure (because doubts to my twice hit with COVID addled memory) have now been put in place.
I have to take my 90 year old mother (not at all weak & decrepit) to her lung Dr. having to do with some complications that she is experiencing from when she had whooping cough as a kid in WWII Austria.
At that point I'll be able to spend a bit of time there and sort through the carts & confirm my memories (or the opposite).
Unless someone comes up with pictures between now & then.
And I will post here when I find what I find.
 
But (and I am not at all a fan of AI stuff) oddly correct. Which is why I posted it.
I want to see the Shure Ultra 300 with P-Mount. If I don't see such a version, it will mean that your level is the same as the "AI" level
 
I want to see the Shure Ultra 300 with P-Mount. If I don't see such a version, it will mean that your level is the same as the "AI" levelYou just made sure tha
I WANT: want all you want to.
Do your own research then.
 
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With you and dlaloum being the about the only 2 I respect about this (as I have read much of both of your stuff elsewhere) then I must have the only 300 ULTRA P-Mount in existence.
And I have never (since I have been looking in 1984) seen one that was not P-Mount. Granted, once I had one, I looked no further [and, at the time, it was not particularly hard to find one]).
I will look into it when I get a chance. Sometimes memories are fickle & it's been since 2018 that I looked at it.
 
the vst iii was available as a p mount. maybe youre thinking about one of those?
 
the vst iii was available as a p mount. maybe youre thinking about one of those?
I'll know for SHURE in a couple of weeks when I go to my mother's & sort my P-Mount SHURE's from her "conventional" SHURES.
Until then, (mine, at least) is a mystery.
 
the vst iii was available as a p mount. maybe youre thinking about one of those?
I did get the opportunity (timewise) to go to my mother's today and get the ultra 300 out of it's case and examine it. To those that say it is not a P-Mount, you are correct. What appears to be an adapter at a distance is just that: a protrusion that appears to be an adapter but under closer examination, is not.
In spite of one person being extremely rude, I am posting this here because learning the truth is why most of us are here (me included).
Based on the knowledge that I had been presented and having the item in question, with just a cursory look, I took that information to be true.
Because I did not do a close up examination of the unit in question (the ULTRA 300 in my possession, I made the same mistake that was passed on to me.
From my perspective, it's not a big mistake, as I'll just use it on my mother's TT that uses that mount.
But, another person who might be looking for an ULTRA 300 might have made a mistake because of my mistake.
Which would have continued to be my mistake IF NOT FOR THE GOOD PEOPLE HERE PUSHING FOR ME TO CHECK IT TO BE SURE. Thanks!
 
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But the picture you posted is unequivocally not a p-mount. Is there a picture of one, anywhere?
Under closer examination, it is not an adapter but part of the shell. So it is not a P-Mount, as I had been told. I just glanced at it & it appeared to me that it was an adapter, at the time. Since at a distance, it appeared to be an adapter, that's what I figured that it was. I was wrong, it is not.
 
I believe that there was indeed a T4p version of the Ultra300/400 - the ML120P.... which used the same needle mountings as the Ultra300/400.... (it is possible the needles were different though, as compliance would need to match T4p...)

However if you can find the rather rare ML120p body, and a (now just as rare) Ultra300/400 needle - it could be an interesting proposition.... (picture borrowed from US Audio Mart after a search...)

Shure ML120p.jpg
 
I believe that there was indeed a T4p version of the Ultra300/400 - the ML120P.... which used the same needle mountings as the Ultra300/400.... (it is possible the needles were different though, as compliance would need to match T4p...)

However if you can find the rather rare ML120p body, and a (now just as rare) Ultra300/400 needle - it could be an interesting proposition.... (picture borrowed from US Audio Mart after a search...)

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Absolutely amazing! It's like a Yeti!
Killer ;)
 
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