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Supra Audiophile USB Cable Review

Rate this USB Cable:

  • 1. Poor (headless panther)

    Votes: 45 23.7%
  • 2. Not terrible (postman panther)

    Votes: 68 35.8%
  • 3. Fine (happy panther)

    Votes: 67 35.3%
  • 4. Great (golfing panther)

    Votes: 10 5.3%

  • Total voters
    190
Something wrong must have happened when the marketing department was doing its pricing strategy meeting for this product.

Surely they were all around the orange fireplace sitting smack dab in the middle of the pit of the sunken living room of their CEO's place:

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Passing joints, lines and shots of Aquavit around while their tall blond spouses, all wearing Agnetha Faitskog inspired pantsuits, listened intently and supplied peals of laughter at the appropriate times.

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Eventually this should have led to a five figure price for this extemely performant USB cable. After all, that's how Nordost does it.

So I gotta wonder if someone forgot the dope, the booze, the chicks, or the wood to make this is only around five times more expensive than it ought to be.

Thanks for the fine review, Amir.
 
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Valhalla :cool:
 
Thank you for another "Deja Vu, all over again" type of a confirmational review!;)
When I see the brand name Supra... all I can think of is...
"Oooh! Must read! Owned 2!"

My first stop was at the word "Twinning"? *Producing two offspring at a time. *Duplicate or match. *Grow as Twins. *Give birth to twins. [hmmmm!]
My next stop was at "Solder Tin >> Almit SR-34Super"? *Lead free. *Sn3.0Ag0.5Cu. *Fuse point @217-220°C. [Oooh!]
Final Stop was at "Eutektik Solder"? >> *Eutectic solders have several advantages over non-eutectic solders. [Okay!]

I knew the end of this cable-fable, without even cheating by viewing the votes. What I did not know was that I would learn three OT things I would've never known, otherwise.:)
 
IMHO: I vote for @amirm to send his review cable -as a birthday gift- to @Chester... for rounding out his collection! :facepalm:
He didn't send me anything for my birthday. And I was a good boy all year. Why should I send him something???
 
They have a more expensive USB cable as well.

The Excalibur:

Experience the pinnacle of USB technology with Supra USB 2.0 Excalibur – the Silver Edition. Engineered with uncompromising precision, this high-speed USB cable is the definitive choice for audiophiles, gamers, and professionals seeking unrivaled data and power transmission.

It costs 990 SEK (2m) here in Sweden (103 USD). Still inexpensive compared to most other "audiophile" cables, but a bit silly of course.

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At least this thing doesn't claim anything silly, and isn't priced insanely. It gets a pass from me. Producing cables here can't be cheap compared to other parts of the world.

This is my thoughts as well.

The cable seems well built, made in a country with a high cost of living, doesn't claim anything absurd, and seems to meet standards. Would I buy it, nope... Would I judge someone for buying it, nope!
 
I think some have gone gaga just because the cable comes from Sweden and looks nice. It is no better than one costing 1/50 of the price. Totally unjustifiable as a product. Let’s move on swiftly to the next review before the world implodes.
 
No one is claiming it performs better, just that it’s a well built, certified cable. To some that’s worth a few extra quid.

I hope all those complaining about the price only own the cheapest possible DAC in the ASR index.
 
I think some have gone gaga just because the cable comes from Sweden and looks nice. It is no better than one costing 1/50 of the price. Totally unjustifiable as a product. Let’s move on swiftly to the next review before the world implodes.
With quite many Amazon bought cables that end up not working after a short while I think this price is still OK
 
I think some have gone gaga just because the cable comes from Sweden and looks nice. It is no better than one costing 1/50 of the price. Totally unjustifiable as a product. Let’s move on swiftly to the next review before the world implodes.
Well the supra usb cable is $23 for 2 meter, I am not aware of any certified, spec’d at 90ohm usb cable out there costing 1/50 of $23.

Startech would be about $12-15 for a 2 meter I believe
 
At least this thing doesn't claim anything silly

Well seems they actually do if you read the whole thread. But it's not so obscene.
Honestly can't blame them too much.

Seems they offer superior quality at a not too high price for something made in EU which is, especially at this time, very relevant.
I'm glad if they capture those customers that would have fallen for perfectly normal cables sold at 20 times this price.
The "No nonsense" in their homepage seems to be a bit too much marketing but for sure better than the "Full nonsense" of other expensive audiophile stuff.

Their audio cables are probably going to be very interesting, will consider them in the future.
About the USB cables, this one specifically I probably wouldn't buy it.
You can find it for 59€ here in EU (that's the standard, non discounted price) and it's a bit too much for any 2mt USB cable in my opinion.
Even considering the high quality standards and lower risks.

The "secret sauce" of this cable it's in the datasheet https://supracables.se/datasheets/en/USB-cables/usb-2_0-a-b-datasheet-en.pdf:

The trick is as always, the shielding, separate for each pair of leads, correctly twisted leads and the exact impedance alignment of 90ohm, which is absolutely vital for USB applications for jitter-free transmissions. Supra USB2.0 will reward you with a dynamic, rich and detailed music experience. Undoubtedly!

The big delta seems to be the additional shielding for each pair of leads; AFAIK in general the other USB cables doesn't have it.
But does it matter for a 2mt cable? I'm quite skeptical but for sure it doesn't hurt.
I guess it does for >5mt as 90% of USB cables over that length suffers signal degradation, often so severe that is causing signal loss.
I would definitely consider the Supra USB cables for 5-15mt lengths; at 15mt it's a miracle to find something that works, even USB2.0

Can't judge about the correctly twisted pairs and perfect 90ohm impedance; to be honest that's something I would expect from any correctly manufactured cable with proper materials.
But maybe I'm wrong and at least it shows a dedication to quality.

Let's not comment about the music experience, pure marketing sauce :D

There are a few things which I don't like about this cable, considering the price.

First the connector; it's bulky and die-cast.
At this price I would have preferred and expected a removable one like they use in their much more expensive Excalibur series.
In general it's much more practical and probably more durable the no casing solution used in the expensive (23,5€) Chinese Amazon cable I bought on Amazon, the magnificent (I'm joking) Tertullus:

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It's a pure joy to plug it in the PC and the DAC.

Second, the beads.
Why there are no beads?
It's one of the few things that really makes a difference in filtering upstream noise form the source (if you have, like me).
My cheap/expensive Tertullus have them already.
Maybe the additional shielding makes them no/less relevant but I doubt it.

Third, the CE & ROHS declaration:


I understand that you can self-certify if you are very confident in your manufacturing process but at this price I would have expected 3rd party testing.
Plus I don't think this CE Declaration of Conformity is even proper; I'm pretty sure it's mandatory to declare the EU regulations which the product is subject to and the related standards.
Love the EIA-364 standard for the mechanical robustness of connectors but where is the EMC?
This makes me feel a little less confident on the quality side but at the end it's more likely just administrative paperwork than else.

Anyway that's what I was expecting to see, it comes from another USB cable EU DoC:

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I recently had to buy a new USB-B cable here in Germany, when I added the HS02 filter.
Have a large stash in Italy due to the old printers, scanners, USB HDD enclosures but none here.
There are almost no physical shops left here, if you don't know exactly what to buy the only option is Amazon.
Since there's theoretically no reason to spend more than 5-10€ on a 2mt USB cable I bought, tested with MTA, sent back almost a dozen.

They are all incredible crap today, keep your old USB cables as they are valuable.
The new ones are from straight out faulty to poor filtering of the noise up to polluting the USB bus.
Only one decent, at the level of the DAC cable, was just like the others but costing a whooping 16€.
That's how I ended up buying the funny Tertullus which at least has the no-connector advantage, the beads, it's fancy (if that matters to you) and works a bit better than the DAC cable.
For just a few euros more it's a decent buy in my opinion and more than enough for anything which is not super hi-end.

The better quality is probably irrelevant with my Yamaha amp but I love that it measures better :cool:
Against the already excellent Fosi ZD-3 cable it has 1-2db less noise which brings the ENOB from 17.8-17.9 to 18.0-18.1.
 
It seems that we got used to Amir's and others generous ways of offering measurements for free.
That's not a case with a company though, measuring and documentation is a full extra cost.

If you like to buy blind do it, by all means.
But as we are at ASR now, this must have some value, right?
 
Well seems they actually do if you read the whole thread. But it's not so obscene.
Honestly can't blame them too much.

Seems they offer superior quality at a not too high price for something made in EU which is, especially at this time, very relevant.
I'm glad if they capture those customers that would have fallen for perfectly normal cables sold at 20 times this price.
The "No nonsense" in their homepage seems to be a bit too much marketing but for sure better than the "Full nonsense" of other expensive audiophile stuff.

Their audio cables are probably going to be very interesting, will consider them in the future.
About the USB cables, this one specifically I probably wouldn't buy it.
You can find it for 59€ here in EU (that's the standard, non discounted price) and it's a bit too much for any 2mt USB cable in my opinion.
Even considering the high quality standards and lower risks.

The "secret sauce" of this cable it's in the datasheet https://supracables.se/datasheets/en/USB-cables/usb-2_0-a-b-datasheet-en.pdf:

The trick is as always, the shielding, separate for each pair of leads, correctly twisted leads and the exact impedance alignment of 90ohm, which is absolutely vital for USB applications for jitter-free transmissions. Supra USB2.0 will reward you with a dynamic, rich and detailed music experience. Undoubtedly!

The big delta seems to be the additional shielding for each pair of leads; AFAIK in general the other USB cables doesn't have it.
But does it matter for a 2mt cable? I'm quite skeptical but for sure it doesn't hurt.
I guess it does for >5mt as 90% of USB cables over that length suffers signal degradation, often so severe that is causing signal loss.
I would definitely consider the Supra USB cables for 5-15mt lengths; at 15mt it's a miracle to find something that works, even USB2.0

Can't judge about the correctly twisted pairs and perfect 90ohm impedance; to be honest that's something I would expect from any correctly manufactured cable with proper materials.
But maybe I'm wrong and at least it shows a dedication to quality.

Let's not comment about the music experience, pure marketing sauce :D

There are a few things which I don't like about this cable, considering the price.

First the connector; it's bulky and die-cast.
At this price I would have preferred and expected a removable one like they use in their much more expensive Excalibur series.
In general it's much more practical and probably more durable the no casing solution used in the expensive (23,5€) Chinese Amazon cable I bought on Amazon, the magnificent (I'm joking) Tertullus:

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It's a pure joy to plug it in the PC and the DAC.

Second, the beads.
Why there are no beads?
It's one of the few things that really makes a difference in filtering upstream noise form the source (if you have, like me).
My cheap/expensive Tertullus have them already.
Maybe the additional shielding makes them no/less relevant but I doubt it.

Third, the CE & ROHS declaration:


I understand that you can self-certify if you are very confident in your manufacturing process but at this price I would have expected 3rd party testing.
Plus I don't think this CE Declaration of Conformity is even proper; I'm pretty sure it's mandatory to declare the EU regulations which the product is subject to and the related standards.
Love the EIA-364 standard for the mechanical robustness of connectors but where is the EMC?
This makes me feel a little less confident on the quality side but at the end it's more likely just administrative paperwork than else.

Anyway that's what I was expecting to see, it comes from another USB cable EU DoC:

View attachment 467178

I recently had to buy a new USB-B cable here in Germany, when I added the HS02 filter.
Have a large stash in Italy due to the old printers, scanners, USB HDD enclosures but none here.
There are almost no physical shops left here, if you don't know exactly what to buy the only option is Amazon.
Since there's theoretically no reason to spend more than 5-10€ on a 2mt USB cable I bought, tested with MTA, sent back almost a dozen.

They are all incredible crap today, keep your old USB cables as they are valuable.
The new ones are from straight out faulty to poor filtering of the noise up to polluting the USB bus.
Only one decent, at the level of the DAC cable, was just like the others but costing a whooping 16€.
That's how I ended up buying the funny Tertullus which at least has the no-connector advantage, the beads, it's fancy (if that matters to you) and works a bit better than the DAC cable.
For just a few euros more it's a decent buy in my opinion and more than enough for anything which is not super hi-end.

The better quality is probably irrelevant with my Yamaha amp but I love that it measures better :cool:
Against the already excellent Fosi ZD-3 cable it has 1-2db less noise which brings the ENOB from 17.8-17.9 to 18.0-18.1.
Ferrite beads are a myth in terms of better USB signal integrity. They can be useful if a device connected to USB cannot comply by itself with EMI regulation and so need the added ferrite to avoid spreading energy in the environment. There are some posts here on ASR explaining that. AS for the plugs, SUPRA look professionally executed and not DIY-like :)
 
The "secret sauce" of this cable it's in the datasheet https://supracables.se/datasheets/en/USB-cables/usb-2_0-a-b-datasheet-en.pdf:

The trick is as always, the shielding, separate for each pair of leads, correctly twisted leads and the exact impedance alignment of 90ohm, which is absolutely vital for USB applications for jitter-free transmissions. Supra USB2.0 will reward you with a dynamic, rich and detailed music experience. Undoubtedly!
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Is this really that important for jitter suppression, and if so, how to measure it exactly (between which pins?)
I can't remember any jitter comparison tests with vs without these 90 ohms.
 
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