Supra Audiophile USB Cable Review

[CD2]

Not at all, 95% or so of PC's are retail purchased, home-brews are a niche market, like ASR readers are. And, of course the 6-7% (in the UK) of those which are Muckintoshes are completely non upgradeable.

Yep. I still roll my own, but I know almost nobody else who does. Normies buy laptops. Judging from the parts available, most of the remaining home-brewers are gamers.

 

[EJ3]

Most PCs are NOT shop built, they are corporate built, e.g.Dell, Lenovo, etc..

I have seen a corporate PC once (that was not a laptop) in my mother's home, she has a Dell. (I am excluding corporations & businesses because most have corporate computer systems).
But I know no one that has a personal desktop in their home that was not built by either themselves or a local builder.
I also do not live in a big city (which may have something to do with it, I guess).

 

[DonDish]

Ive built and upgraded gamer PC

True, for "tower" PCs but most PCs (95%+) are corporate built, non "tower" PCs and have minimal expansion potential.

They still sell alot of gamer PCs, but I wouldnt recomend one. No use in considering USB electrical noise when your PC is spewing out 35db+ of fan noise. You have to subtract that from SNR. I just recently bought a MAC M4 mini 16/256, best buy ever, and cheap too. It has a fan, but its virtually noiseless. I bought a Satechi stand with it. It has 3xUSB A + SSD extension from MACs thunderbolt port. So that holds my music library.
If you are worried about USB noise and other ghosts, remember you need an environment where you could actually hear and discern that stuff.

 

[DonDish]

Yep. I still roll my own, but I know almost nobody else who does. Normies buy laptops. Judging from the parts available, most of the remaining home-brewers are gamers.

Ive built gaming PCs since Nvidia TNT2 was the hottest. Parts became too expensive. These days its just insane. The GPU alone cost as much I would consider for a new build, not considering SSD and RAM is tripeling.

 

[SanojS]

USB is a digital cable. You can't measure "quality" of the signal after the DAC has done its job.
The end signal will either be corrupt (because the signal wasn't transmitted in a good fashion) or it isn't. Even jitter can be removed if the receiving end is competently built.

But - a standard, competently built "cheap" cable will be as good as an expensive, and even a ****** cable could have no difference in end result of audio signal, as long as you haven't lost any bits and the USB receiving end has jitter control...

You have to measure the digital signal quality, jitter, impedance and shielding to see if it is "good", "adequate" or "bad".

 

[M.C. Logan]

Ive built and upgraded gamer PC

They still sell alot of gamer PCs, but I wouldnt recomend one. No use in considering USB electrical noise when your PC is spewing out 35db+ of fan noise. You have to subtract that from SNR. I just recently bought a MAC M4 mini 16/256, best buy ever, and cheap too. It has a fan, but its virtually noiseless. I bought a Satechi stand with it. It has 3xUSB A + SSD extension from MACs thunderbolt port. So that holds my music library.
If you are worried about USB noise and other ghosts, remember you need an environment where you could actually hear and discern that stuff.

Indeed, I use Roon and only listen over Ethernet, completely isolating source from DAC. PC noise is then irrelevant.

 

[DonDish]

PC noise is then irrelevant.

Is that PC fan noise or noise from USB transmission?

So it goes from PC with Roon over network to streamer/DAC?

I have MAC via USBC to Interface to amplifier or DAC/HPamp. Ive investigated streamers, but always find them redundant in this setup.