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Supra Audiophile USB Cable Review

Rate this USB Cable:

  • 1. Poor (headless panther)

    Votes: 44 23.8%
  • 2. Not terrible (postman panther)

    Votes: 67 36.2%
  • 3. Fine (happy panther)

    Votes: 65 35.1%
  • 4. Great (golfing panther)

    Votes: 9 4.9%

  • Total voters
    185

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This is a review and detailed measurements of the performance of Supra Swedish USB audio cable. It was kindly donated to the forum by a member and sells for US $53 for 2 meter length:
Topping D70s USB Cable Comparison Test Supra Stereo Audio audiophile review.jpg

I like the light gray look and rather beefy construction. Alas, the latter makes it difficult to rotate the cable -- something you need to do as you align both ends of the cable to plug into their respective sockets. This can also put strain on the connectors and or lift light/rotate weight devices. There are worse offenders to be sure but would be good for cable companies to take this into consideration when making premium cables.

Company names the usual claims about the cable, but also some rarely seen electrical specs:

Features & Benefits:

  • Long cables lengths - provides for long distances between devices
  • Correct data transfer - utmost sound capabilities
  • Perfect shielding and twinning - minimum signal degradation
  • Robust type A and type B connectors - reliable, long mobile life
  • Made in Sweden - Modern research, production and quality
Mechanical Specifications

StandardUSB 2.0, Hi-Speed
ConnectorsUSB A Male to USB B Male
Signal Direction:<->
Application Examples:Computer, DAC
Data transfer rate:480 Mbit/s
Solder Tin:Almit SR-34 Super
Cable clamping:Molded


Number of pairs:2
Cross Area:0.24 / 23mm2/AWG
No. Wires/Conductor:19
Wire diameter :0.127(mm)
Wire Material:Tin Plated OFC
Insulation:PE
Screen:Aluminium/Pet Foil
Jacket:PVC
Flameretardancy:No
Ext. Size7.5(mm)
Weight56(g/m)
Electrical performance

Resistance:72(Ohm/km)
C:52(pF/m)
Imp. Z:90Ohm
Velo. Factor0.66c

It would have been nice to see actual performance measurements such as eye pattern. Still, they are providing far more data than many expensive audiophile USB cables.

Supra USB Audio Cable Measurements
As usual, we want to create a reference for our testing, so I grabbed a random 6 foot, rather thin USB cable and measured the Topping D70s with it:
Topping D70s USB Cable Comparison Test Generic Measurement.png


Swapping for Supra cable shows the usual run to run variations and nothing more:
Topping D70s USB Cable Comparison Test Supra Stereo Audio Measurement.png


Dynamic range shows the same:
Topping D70s USB Cable Comparison Test Supra Stereo Audio dynamic range Measurement.png


Finally, jitter measurement shows no difference:
Topping D70s USB Cable Comparison Test Supra Stereo Audio jitter Measurement.png

With USB interface, the USB clock is not used for the DAC anyway so external jitter wouldn't matter. But if the cable picked up noise, it could get transmitted to the DAC. Fortunately, in these short lengths and with a quality DAC, we see that there is no difference.

Conclusion
I know many of you would guess that the USB cable would make no difference, but it is important to test to make sure there is negative consequence either. Such is the case here. Unlike typical audiophile cables, you are hardly paying a premium for the Supra cable. Granted a free one comes with your DAC but with inflation what it is, $53 for something made in Sweden doesn't make my blood pressure go up.

While personally I have no use for the Supra USB cable, I won't be complaining if you bought one, especially if your in EU.
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Yeah, not stupid expensive. Probably small run production. But the question is why did Supra come out with this? It's not expensive enough to have credibility with the gullible and the marketing doesn't use the terms 'quantum' or 'AI' so I'm not sure they'll sell many.
 
Fathers day present.
Keith
 
It's an unnecessarily low gauge cable... regardless of price, thick cables mean "quality" in some peoples eyes and they can claim them to be audiophile grade cables then.
makes it difficult to rotate the cable
Thanks for showing the pointlessness of this cable @amirm.


JSmith
 
It's an unnecessarily low gauge cable... regardless of price, thick cables mean "quality" in some peoples eyes and they can claim them to be audiophile grade cables then.

Thanks for showing the pointlessness of this cable @amirm.


JSmith
Well, at least it looks and (probably) feels premium, without premium price,
and it does no harm, so okay for me, not snake oil.
 
It's an unnecessarily low gauge cable... regardless of price, thick cables mean "quality" in some peoples eyes and they can claim them to be audiophile grade cables then.

Thanks for showing the pointlessness of this cable @amirm.


JSmith
To add confusion, low gauge is useful for the power wires only AFAIK, in this case power wires are 23 AWG, that it is sub optimal for a lenghts > 3 m, so I'm not sure which is the reason for this choice. Anyway I appreciate the idea of solidity and robustness of the cable and the "made in Europe" badge.
 
For the price asked, I want a tiny representation of the flag of Sweden attached to the velcro to denote where the cable was assembled !
 
Well, modern DACs know how to handle PC noise. I used to have the original Schiit Modi and boy was it sensitive to noise. I measured the Modi's output using RMAA and my E-MU 0404 USB and there was repeatable measurable difference between different USB cables. Mind you I only had cheap ones on hand, no fancy expensive cables. What made the biggest difference in the cables was whether it had a ferrite choke or not. In the end the best way I found to get rid of as much of the noise as possible was to use a USB hub. I had a couple USB 2.0 hubs laying around and some let through more noise than others. I spent a lot of time measuing the Modi with all the different calbes and USB hubs and in the end I sold it to someone who did not care as long as he could not hear the noise.

Slightly OT: What was very cool at the time was that I had one of the Gigabyte Z97 motherboards that had 2 special USB 2.0 ports that were dedicated to be used for a DAC and the Modi had measurably less noise when connected via those USB ports compared to all the other USB ports on that motherboard. Shame that modern motherboards don't have those. But as shown in this review, modern DACs don't seem to need them, if well-designed.
 
I have a few of these I got cheap, they’re nice quality cables. I quite like them.

Their optical cable was rubbish though, kept falling out.
 
I have a few of these I got cheap, they’re nice quality cables. I quite like them.

Their optical cable was rubbish though, kept falling out.
in my opinion SUPRA items are a mixed bags, some of them smelling a bit as snake oil. E.g. see their analog interconnects. I have had also their premium Excalibur USB cable, with its star-quad power wires configuration: much more expensive and NOT USB certified. Anyway helped with a USB powered DAC, 5 metres far from the laptop. Other cables failed to power it.
 
I think supra makes fairly decent cables that meet or exceed spec usually. I know a lot of members here on the forum use them, i recently bought one of their toslink connectors and the cable does feel really decent, very flexible materials generally and im sure they perform just fine. As long as they aren't strained cables and work as their intent i don't really care how much you spend on them as long as you're not telling me they sound any better.
 
Years ago, I had a couple of lengths of their speaker cable (around 2mm conductor cross-section from memory). I was a bit depressed to find the copper was 'dirty' looking, which to me, indicated some form of degradation (Linn's K400 and K600 stuff was similar with the copper looking as if it had gone off). I've tended to ignore the stuff since...

My USB cables tend to have woven jackets on, bought for robustness mainly and cost a fraction the price of this one, so I'm happy enough.
 
I think supra makes fairly decent cables that meet or exceed spec usually. I know a lot of members here on the forum use them, i recently bought one of their toslink connectors and the cable does feel really decent, very flexible materials generally and im sure they perform just fine. As long as they aren't strained cables and work as their intent i don't really care how much you spend on them as long as you're not telling me they sound any better.
Exactly,

Price might be a bit high, but performance is as should be, but they don't make outrageous claims either, so all good to me.
 
It's an unnecessarily low gauge cable... regardless of price, thick cables mean "quality" in some peoples eyes and they can claim them to be audiophile grade cables then.

Thanks for showing the pointlessness of this cable @amirm.


JSmith
Heh, I love the power cables that look like boa constrictors.
 
It's an unnecessarily low gauge cable... regardless of price, thick cables mean "quality" in some peoples eyes and they can claim them to be audiophile grade cables then.
probably how they can achieve certification for longer lengths... in excess of 5m spec
 
It's always fun to google reviews for things Amir tests :)

It has impressive detail and secure timing. Its presentation is relaxed, and listening is an easy-going experience.
Overall, this is a cable with a great sense of rhythm – it provided a detailed and punchy ambience but still injected a relaxed air to the proceedings.

This is from two different reviews!

Now it makes me wonder if this Magical Cable (tm) will further tighten up Bonzo's virtuosity!
 
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