Hello,
after buying a pair of small 5" actives for nearfield, I just need a good subwoofer to finish to setup and I have a few general questions/topics.
Alternatives
It seems that a lot of people are using hi-fi subwoofers with an external crossover because you can get much more for your money. Especially in the US, where you have HSU or Rythmik; here in Europe, we still have SVS, at least.
So anything else than MiniDSP or Behringer to do this? Bonus if it can work without a computer, as few of us don't run Windows and need this. Apparently, Thomann has some rack units to compete with Behringer (e.g. https://www.thomann.de/intl/the_t.racks_dsp_204.htm) that seem promising.
Measurements
Any place where we can find measurements of subwoofers, especially studio ones? I've got
https://data-bass.com/
https://www.soundandvision.com/content/way-down-deep-i
https://www.soundandvision.com/content/way-down-deep-ii
https://www.soundandvision.com/content/way-down-deep-iii
and that's all. Genelec and Neumann give some useful specs, but I'd like more, personally.
Recommendations
I have a few requirements for my stuff:
* Studio subwoofer
* High-pass for the outgoing signal (duh)
* "Small" (you'll get it with the models I consider), it'll go under a desk
* Some degree of adjustable phase (at least what Genelec gives, which is 0 to -270° in steps of 90°)
* Made in Europe or USA and can be bought in France
* Robust, with drivers behind a grill. Handles are a nice bonus
So far, I'm considering:
* Genelec 7050C: the obvious choice when using the 8030; every box is ticked and the LSE technology is interesting. Sadly, I've heard some lone reports of port noise with the 7350A, which shares its body with it, and the maximum level is a bit low; most of their subwoofers also have a strangely low amplifier power. It has a longer warranty than other models, too.
* Neumann KH750DSP: pricier, but otherwise very nice. Even has a DSP, that can't be used without iOS, though (so useless). Same problem of "low" output, but it's still to be used in nearfield and boundary gain helps.
* Focal Sub 6 Be: seems a lot beefier, but, as usual for Focal, no relevant specs at all.
* Dynaudio 9S: except for the too coarse phase setting (0 or 180°) it seems very good. But paying almost 900€ for another vinyl wrapper MDF box isn't a pleasure (though I love the look of their woofers).
The problem is that once again, except Neumann and Genelec, I'm forced to consider models only based on marketing blurb and not hard data. So, right now, it's either a 950€ 7050C or an almost as pricy SVS SB-1000 (these are made in USA, right?) and Thomann/Behringer processor combo.
Any help concerning my choice and measurement websites is welcome.
PS: I haven't looked at the DIY route, but if there are some high quality complete kits with a competently designed enclosure (enough bracing) that can be bought here, I'm interested. Being in an appartement with no space nor tools, it's only idle interest, though.
after buying a pair of small 5" actives for nearfield, I just need a good subwoofer to finish to setup and I have a few general questions/topics.
Alternatives
It seems that a lot of people are using hi-fi subwoofers with an external crossover because you can get much more for your money. Especially in the US, where you have HSU or Rythmik; here in Europe, we still have SVS, at least.
So anything else than MiniDSP or Behringer to do this? Bonus if it can work without a computer, as few of us don't run Windows and need this. Apparently, Thomann has some rack units to compete with Behringer (e.g. https://www.thomann.de/intl/the_t.racks_dsp_204.htm) that seem promising.
Measurements
Any place where we can find measurements of subwoofers, especially studio ones? I've got
https://data-bass.com/
https://www.soundandvision.com/content/way-down-deep-i
https://www.soundandvision.com/content/way-down-deep-ii
https://www.soundandvision.com/content/way-down-deep-iii
and that's all. Genelec and Neumann give some useful specs, but I'd like more, personally.
Recommendations
I have a few requirements for my stuff:
* Studio subwoofer
* High-pass for the outgoing signal (duh)
* "Small" (you'll get it with the models I consider), it'll go under a desk
* Some degree of adjustable phase (at least what Genelec gives, which is 0 to -270° in steps of 90°)
* Made in Europe or USA and can be bought in France
* Robust, with drivers behind a grill. Handles are a nice bonus
So far, I'm considering:
* Genelec 7050C: the obvious choice when using the 8030; every box is ticked and the LSE technology is interesting. Sadly, I've heard some lone reports of port noise with the 7350A, which shares its body with it, and the maximum level is a bit low; most of their subwoofers also have a strangely low amplifier power. It has a longer warranty than other models, too.
* Neumann KH750DSP: pricier, but otherwise very nice. Even has a DSP, that can't be used without iOS, though (so useless). Same problem of "low" output, but it's still to be used in nearfield and boundary gain helps.
* Focal Sub 6 Be: seems a lot beefier, but, as usual for Focal, no relevant specs at all.
* Dynaudio 9S: except for the too coarse phase setting (0 or 180°) it seems very good. But paying almost 900€ for another vinyl wrapper MDF box isn't a pleasure (though I love the look of their woofers).
The problem is that once again, except Neumann and Genelec, I'm forced to consider models only based on marketing blurb and not hard data. So, right now, it's either a 950€ 7050C or an almost as pricy SVS SB-1000 (these are made in USA, right?) and Thomann/Behringer processor combo.
Any help concerning my choice and measurement websites is welcome.
PS: I haven't looked at the DIY route, but if there are some high quality complete kits with a competently designed enclosure (enough bracing) that can be bought here, I'm interested. Being in an appartement with no space nor tools, it's only idle interest, though.
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