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[dmac6419]

Stereophile's Products of the Year are up. What's interesting is that there is less obvious advertiser-friendly muck to wade through this time around. When Benchmark, Revel, and Dutch & Dutch are highlighted and not stuff like Wilson (OK, the dCS Rossini is there too), I take a bit of notice. I mean they are usually there, but the degree of visibility is surprising: it is striking that the AHB2 is still being flaunted by them as one of their products of the year in 2019. Is this the start of a brand new era where products that demonstratively measure well cannot be ignored?

Is ASR partly to blame? (lol.)

https://www.stereophile.com/content/stereophiles-products-2019

It's all artwork

 

[Purité Audio]

How on earth did the 8Cs not win.
Keith

 

[Kal Rubinson]

How on earth did the 8Cs not win.
Keith

I suspect it is because too few of the editors got to hear them.

 

[Ron Texas]

I suspect it is because too few of the editors got to hear them.

Or, was it the halo you put on the 228Be's.

 

[MattHooper]

Interesting if only for entertainment purposes. I can see why the Revel took top honours. I also noticed that the Joseph Audio Perspective speakers ("2" version) were runner-ups. I can see why, as a new owner of a pair of the Perspectives (first version). They seem to do it all (or almost) - super clarity, timbral accuracy, soundstaging/imaging like crazy, and punchy as heck so they can rock the house (ridiculously so, given their modest driver compliment and small size).

 

[Sal1950]

I suspect it is because too few of the editors got to hear them.

I know the reasons, etc you gave Kal. But the botton line was you purchased Revels for your personal system.

 

[Kal Rubinson]

I know the reasons, etc you gave Kal. But the botton line was you purchased Revels for your personal system.

Yes but different Revels (not the 228Be) and for reasons that were quite personal and somewhat tangential to considerations for POTY.

Or, was it the halo you put on the 228Be's.

Nah. I think that I expressed comparable enthusiasm for the two. It was probably due to a lack of familiarity with the product and, as likely, a lack of familiarity with the DSP/powered paradigm.

 

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[Ron Texas]

@Kal Rubinson your reviews are some of the best in the business. No BS and lots of careful listrening and thinking. I recall in your review of the Goldenear 1R's hearing something in a short audition a few weeks before, that you mentioned about female voices.

 

[Purité Audio]

I know the reasons, etc you gave Kal. But the botton line was you purchased Revels for your personal system.

I took a pair of Salon 2’s in part ex against some 8Cs.
Keith

 

[Kal Rubinson]

I took a pair of Salon 2’s in part ex against some 8Cs.
Keith

Both of us are right.

 

[Sal1950]

I took a pair of Salon 2’s in part ex against some 8Cs.
Keith

Your a good salesman.

 

[Purité Audio]

I wish I were, I just set the 8Cs up next to the customers Revel’s, I just ensured that he could switch between systems, I did measure his room of course and discussed any filters required .
They sell themselves.
Keith

 

[Darkweb]

Stereophile's Products of the Year are up. What's interesting is that there is less obvious advertiser-friendly muck to wade through this time around. When Benchmark, Revel, and Dutch & Dutch are highlighted and not stuff like Wilson (OK, the dCS Rossini is there too), I take a bit of notice. I mean they are usually there, but the degree of visibility is surprising: it is striking that the AHB2 is still being flaunted by them as one of their products of the year in 2019. Is this the start of a brand new era where products that demonstratively measure well cannot be ignored?

Is ASR partly to blame? (lol.)

https://www.stereophile.com/content/stereophiles-products-2019

You forget Stereophile has been posting measurements even before Amirm was doing the programming for Clippy at Microsoft.

 

[Kal Rubinson]

it is striking that the AHB2 is still being flaunted by them as one of their products of the year in 2019.

Then, you will appreciate the latest issue!

 

[Juhazi]

Here is another list of awards
https://www.soundstagehifi.com/inde...k-products-of-the-year-one-sentence-summaries

"Product of the Year awards fall into three main categories: Individual Awards, Outstanding Performance, and Exceptional Value. Under Individual Awards are four subcategories: Hall of Fame, Innovation in Design, Aesthetics and Sound, and Pioneering Design Achievement. Most years see only one winner per subcategory, but we’re happy to name two or more winners if the products are deserving. This year, for the first time, there are two awards for Pioneering Design Achievement awards: one each for a loudspeaker and an electronics component."

 

[Purité Audio]

Congratulations Dutch&Dutch,
Pioneering Design Achievement -- Dutch & Dutch 8c active loudspeakers, by Diego Estan (SoundStage! Hi-Fi, April 2019): “Overall, the Dutch & Dutch 8c’s not only exceeded my expectations for how a pair of stand-mounted speakers could perform, in many ways they bettered the performance of my current setup of satellites and subwoofer room-corrected with Dirac Live.”

Keith

 

[jjk]

@Kal, read your review of the Benchmark preamp. I am MCH too. Are there any other preamps you would consider “tri-preamping with.”?

 

[amirm]

You forget Stereophile has been posting measurements even before Amirm was doing the programming for Clippy at Microsoft.

In fact, Clippy was making its own measurements at Microsoft before I even arrived!

It just said this about what you wrote though: