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Stereophile Recommended Components 2024

Are you sure I can’t interest you in a 7 watt SET amp and a $40,000 turntable?

You’ve never heard music sounds so natural!
Unfortunately not at the moment. I just “bought me” a 2.2 W tube amplifier and a custom made $300K 16 ohm speaker set (FR is 120–7,300 Hz that sounds so sweet... I sold a kidney to raise the money. I will rewrite my will and leave them to you to take care when I am gone. ;)
 
Unfortunately not at the moment. I just “bought me” a 2.2 W tube amplifier and a custom made $300K 16 ohm speaker set (FR is 120–7,300 Hz that sounds so sweet...
Is that the speaker with the ~15dB peak at 7kHz?
They are purported to be phenomenal for those with acute hearing loss.
 
The most important task of a critic/reviewer isn't even to rank order what's under consideration. Rather it's to separate the genuine from the spurious. There's a lot of junk in the audiophile marketplace, spurious crap which co-exists right along with some absolutely brilliant products,

I agree with you that Stereophile does recommend some crazy products.

On the other hand, there’s a large contingent as you know who aren’t looking for the same type of stuff ASR members are looking for.
Magazines like Stereophile serve those interests. I suspect you and I may disagree over some Stereophile review items you might dismiss as “ junk” and not worthwhile, whereas I may find something compelling in how that component sounds.

There’s plenty of items that Stereophile has reviewed that I thought was terrific, but which will never make the pages of ASR much less the top of an ASR list of recommendations.


That's why it's impossible to take Stereophile seriously or consider it relevant anymore. The most important task of a critic/reviewer isn't even to rank order what's under consideration.

That’s an important task perhaps from an ASR member view. But that’s not seen as an important task necessarily from Stereophile point of view, nor from the view of many of their readers.

I don’t really care so much how a reviewer chooses to “ rank” equipment. I have my own taste and I’ll do my own ranking. What I care about is whether the review has given me a good picture of the Sonic characteristics of the equipment. Then I can decide for myself whether it’s worth seeking out. If I want I will give it my ranking.

I’m quite sure plenty of stereophile readers feel the same.

Rather it's to separate the genuine from the spurious. There's a lot of junk in the audiophile marketplace, spurious crap which co-exists right along with some absolutely brilliant products, and if the publication which positions itself as the primary reviewer doesn't differentiate between those two polar opposites, but actually in many cases misinforms, why should anyone consider its offerings worth anyone's time anymore?

I think the mistake is to imagine that Stereophile readers are sort of all empty headed dupes, who just uncritically swallow everything in the magazine. While maybe that describes some contingent, in subjective forums you will see Stereophile criticized all the time.

I’m a longtime audiophile and I’m a big boy and I can make my way through what I think is nonsense and seek what I find to be valuable in such a magazine. I think that is the case with plenty of other audiophiles.
 
There is the idiom about “throwing out the baby with the bath water” that seems appropriate here.

Stereophile:Editor-in-chief::United States:Commander-in-chief.

Does the United States believe in _______? Depends which 4 year interval you are looking at.

In the 80’s, Stereophile spent some time to discuss blind testing.


But they also invested a lot of time in measuring speakers

And in more modern era, you can definitely see proponents of blind testing in Stereophile
I pulled this quote from the "Blind Listening" column:

"Over 10 years ago, for example, I failed to distinguish a Quad 405 from a Naim NAP250 or a TVA tube amplifier in such a blind test organized by Martin Colloms (footnote 2). Convinced by these results of the validity in the Consumer Reports philosophy, I consequently sold my exotic and expensive Lecson power amplifier with which I had been very happy and bought a much cheaper Quad 405—the biggest mistake of my audiophile career!" - John Atkinson

Let's assume that the amps in question do in fact all sound essentially the same, at least indistinguishably the same. The fact is we do not use our amps and associated equipment to help us track and measure finite objects like the Higgs boson particle. We use our audio gear to bring us joy. If we get a higher level of that joy by knowing we have the cheapest amp extant that measures well, or we get that higher level of joy by appreciating the massive heat sinks of our class A amp, so what?

Each is the right answer for the person who appreciates either of these two very different amps.

If the audio reviewer feels he is getting "closer" to the musical event or whatever, good for him. It is up to us to determine if this matters to us. In my case, not so much, but for someone else this may be just what the reader needs to hear.
 
Streophile always halfway recommends stuff, but there are caveats there for the halfway trained reader with in IQ over 80. And the companies that get their reviews published always get a chance to speak out, invariably thank the test (even when it did not measure well) and add a blurb.
 
It is kind of interesting these recommendations end up meaning more to owners of the gear than proprective buyers?

the parts in reviews where there's a recommendation are of no interest to me. I'd rather look at measurements with my current awareness of whether it means anything to my personal preferences... the personal takeaways I always ignore.
 
Each is the right answer for the person who appreciates either of these two very different amps.

The other part that isn’t really appreciated is how our brain can adapt during testing, which can make blind testing harder to distinguish differences.

It DOES mean that the differences are so small that our brain is able to adapt in the first place, and I am the first to say
1) put all your money into the room/house
2) then speakers
3) then DSP

But my own tests had me hearing differences between SACD and CD layers with ABX testing with 100% accuracy on day 1 because only one of them generated an ASMR style tingle. But subsequently, I was NEVER able to generate that ASMR tingle a second time.

Differences are small and when I have heard differences on specific tracks and gone through the trouble of measuring and analyzing, the PK Metric APPROACHES validity.



I even assumed that my love for physical media was sighted bias, but apparently streaming high res music has Watermarks.

 
Robin I understand that point of view.

I have a somewhat different point of view informed, in part, from my own experience.

During the short period did I did some speaker reviews long ago for online audiophile magazine I had only these goals:
To share my enthusiasm for a particular piece of gear that I really liked, and do my absolute best to describe the sound as accurately as I could so that if somebody heard it, they would say “ yes, it sounds like you described.”

If my prose was florid, it was in service of the above goals not for advertising.

Having known quite a number of reviewers, for the most part I find they are aiming for the same. For instance a very close friend writes for an audiophile mag, and I’m very familiar with the behind-the-scenes of his reviews. He puts a hell of a lot of work into his reviews, and his goal is strictly to be as entertaining and informative as he can be for the reader. (he often brings me over or other people he knows to double check his own impressions.)

I suppose you can say that such reviews as the ones I’m describing still “ exist for ad revenue” but then I guess in the big picture what content doesn’t in any magazine?
The point I’m making is that the prose itself being created is not necessarily done with advertising in mind.
How did you arrive at your enthusiasm, though?
 
The other part that isn’t really appreciated is how our brain can adapt during testing, which can make blind testing harder to distinguish differences.
Reference for that? I'm having trouble with the notion that listening rather than listening and peeking has some special adaptive quality unless there's actually evidence of this.
 
I pulled this quote from the "Blind Listening" column:

"Over 10 years ago, for example, I failed to distinguish a Quad 405 from a Naim NAP250 or a TVA tube amplifier in such a blind test organized by Martin Colloms (footnote 2). Convinced by these results of the validity in the Consumer Reports philosophy, I consequently sold my exotic and expensive Lecson power amplifier with which I had been very happy and bought a much cheaper Quad 405—the biggest mistake of my audiophile career!" - John Atkinson

Let's assume that the amps in question do in fact all sound essentially the same, at least indistinguishably the same. The fact is we do not use our amps and associated equipment to help us track and measure finite objects like the Higgs boson particle. We use our audio gear to bring us joy. If we get a higher level of that joy by knowing we have the cheapest amp extant that measures well, or we get that higher level of joy by appreciating the massive heat sinks of our class A amp, so what?

Each is the right answer for the person who appreciates either of these two very different amps.

If the audio reviewer feels he is getting "closer" to the musical event or whatever, good for him. It is up to us to determine if this matters to us. In my case, not so much, but for someone else this may be just what the reader needs to hear.

I generally agree with the tenor of what you are saying.

I disagree (like most ASR members) with the conclusions JA drew from his experience with blind testing (that there is something wrong with the tests).

But nonetheless sympathize with his personal sibjective experience as an audiophile regretting selling his exotic amp for the cheaper quad amp.

It reminds me of some experience I’ve had with my amps. I’ve been using CJ tube amps since I got in to audio in the 90s, with brief flings with solid state amps. For instance, my CJ’s blew fuse and I was feeling lazy about getting them fixed so just started using a Harman Kardon solid state amp.

But I wasn’t as engaged in listening when that amp was in the system. And over time, a few months, I found less and less interested in sitting down and listening to music on my system. It reached the point that I had concluded I guess I wasn’t really into the whole audio system thing anymore.

So I decided to start selling starting with my Conrad Johnson tube amps. I got the fuse fixed got them ready to sell, and to make sure that they were still working properly, I put them in my system for a listen and… wham!… there was that intoxicating sound that I have been missing: what I perceived as a more natural, organic, vivid yet relaxing, tonally rich sound. I was so bided. I listened late into the night, and then laid into the next night, and the next night. My system had that “ I can’t stop listening” factor again. I realized I still loved the system and there is no way in hell I was going to sell those amps.

That actually happened other times when tried putting solid amps in my system again.
What I perceive (and here I’m including bias as part of perception ) when I use solicit amps in my system is a sort of tighter, harder, more squeezed and slightly more “ uptight” sound, that sort of gets my shoulders scrunched up a bit. When the tube amps go in I feel “aaahhh” and the sound strikes me as more, relaxing and engaging in my shoulders feel like they relax down.

My point here isn’t to make the claim that when I seem to perceive in the above is actually true or accurate to the sound. It is obviously the case that it could be a pure bias effect on my part.

My point is though: that IS my subjective experience. That IS how I feel when the tube amps are in play in my system. Given how strong and persistent this subjective experience is, I am happy to avail myself of whatever is happening. And in that sense, it would be a “mistake” for me to sell those amps and replace them with solid state just because solid state measures better. I’ve come close to making that mistake, and I’m glad I didn’t.

Again, I diverge with JA on the subject of line testing. He concluded that informal sighted listening is ultimately more informative than blind testing about gear. He trusts his sided subjective impressions.

I don’t make that conclusion. I still hold out my subjective sighted listening could always be a bias effect. That using scientific controls is always going to get more accurate information.

Burden the real world or I’m not able to blind test absolutely everything, and pragmatism mixes with personal idiosyncrasies, I’m OK going with my informal listening impressions.
That’s how I’m going to be listening to gear.
And so I can sympathize with your post, and with JA’s experience of regretting selling some beloved amp.
 
How did you arrive at your enthusiasm, though?

I presume you mean my enthusiasm for the gear I chose to review?

I had spent a year or two doing a massive speaker audition search, literally travelling between Canada and the USA auditioning some of the more lauded speakers of the time, as well as encountering others I’d never heard of.

I selected out of that speaker search some speakers that stuck out to me as having certain special qualities. The ones that I found the most compelling.

For instance I wanted to write about the Shun Mook Speakers that I’d stumbled across at an audio store, because I figured no one much less myself would’ve guessed they sounded as good as they did. (given Shawn Mook’s well-known reputation for woo.).

Or the WaveForm speakers which really stood out from the pack when I’d heard them. I’ve always been intrigued by loudspeaker reviews which aren’t of the nature “ the manufacturer has sent us these to review so here you go” but rather “ why have I chosen to write about THESE in particular when they could’ve been any number of other choices. What is special about the particular speakers under the review? “

To me, Robert E. Green of TAS did that particularly well (with a far higher technical knowledge, than I could ever bring).
 
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Reference for that? I'm having trouble with the notion that listening rather than listening and peeking has some special adaptive quality unless there's actually evidence of this.
I think we can safely call it sighted bias.

Where I diverge from the most ardent objectivists is that I say if sighted bias makes you happy, then what is the harm? I don't advocate obvious snake oil and what so many charlatans of our hobby happily try to sell us, but if a beautifully machined faceplate and balanced flywheel volume knob lets you enjoy the music a bit more even though the rational brain knows it doesn't matter... just go with it and enjoy the better experience. Same with glowing tubes... as long as they aren't actually negatively impacting the performance.

I disagree (like most ASR members) with the conclusions JA drew from his experience with blind testing (that there is something wrong with the tests).
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Where I diverge from the most ardent objectivists is that I say if sighted bias makes you happy, then what is the harm?
If you are reviewing for money and putting your opinions forth with a claim of expertise, the harm is creation and spread of ignorance and abetting fraudulent claims of sonic superiority.
 
I think we can safely call it sighted bias.

Where I diverge from the most ardent objectivists is that I say if sighted bias makes you happy, then what is the harm? I don't advocate obvious snake oil and what so many charlatans of our hobby happily try to sell us, but if a beautifully machined faceplate and balanced flywheel volume knob lets you enjoy the music a bit more even though the rational brain knows it doesn't matter... just go with it and enjoy the better experience. Same with glowing tubes... as long as they aren't actually negatively impacting the performance.


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The harm is spreading your opinion as fact....
 
If you are reviewing for money and putting your opinions forth with a claim of expertise, the harm is creation and spread of ignorance and abetting fraudulent claims of sonic superiority.
I understand your position.

If I was reviewing equipment my prose would be far different than what we typically read, but I do not think blanket condemning the reviewer for describing their honest experience is the right approach.
 
I understand your position.

If I was reviewing equipment my prose would be far different than what we typically read, but I do not think blanket condemning the reviewer for describing their honest experience is the right approach.
What is an "honest" experience tho?
 
I think that harsh. Sharing an opinion is different than trying force it as gospel.
Yes, that's essentially what I said aside from the harsh thing.

ps forcing gospel how? Gospel isn't necessarily truth/reality.
 
The harm is spreading your opinion as fact....
When a foodie tells you that some special purveyor of olive oil is superior to another, it is no different. Reviewers are sharing opinions and if a reader doesn't understand that, then it is on the reader to get better educated.
 
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