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Stereophile Recommended Components 2024

As far as I'm concerned, the Stereophole Guide is just another advertising sales tool. It doesn't offer the reader a definitive guide and it's mostly made up of the most over priced items in the audio industry, which don't offer value or superior audible difference. Read it if you want to be lead down the yellow brick road of advertising. It's a great way to confuse new people looking for a nice audio system.

Items that perform better at more reasonable prices are not included. If someone was going to produce a valuable guide for improving audio performance, price would be figured into the equation and it wouldn't be limited to product sent to the publisher for free. This guide has about as much value as a roll of Charmin.
 
Reviewers that make a point of buying everything themselves are the exception - like Consumer Reports (sort of like the ASR of everything except audio) - it's clearly the most ethical situation, but not the most practical for the majority of reviewers or publications.
At one time Consumer's Reports was the ASR of audio. They were big promoters of Acoustic Research and Heathkit gear in the late 1960s/1970s. I bought my first real stereo system based on their reviews - AR-3s, AR XA, AR Amp, Shure 91 ed cartridge. They bought the gear, tested the gear and had no advertising. I knew I could trust them.
 
At one time Consumer's Reports was the ASR of audio. They were big promoters of Acoustic Research and Heathkit gear in the late 1960s/1970s. I bought my first real stereo system based on their reviews - AR-3s, AR XA, AR Amp, Shure 91 ed cartridge. They bought the gear, tested the gear and had no advertising. I knew I could trust them.
I think they still do some audio reviewing here and there, but ASR / EAC are definitely more sophisticated than what they're doing these days.
 
Just clicking through the first few pages with the turntables, tonearms, cartridges and phono preamps, I can't comprehend why anyone in 2024 would want to spend money on this scale to listen to vinyl! How about this for example.

CH Precision P1 Phono Stage
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Inside, it's got lots of stuff....

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(1) External power supply input. For X1 optional external power supply only
(2) Mains switch and power cord receptacle (on back panel)
(3) Adjustment shaft sand screws
(4) Mains filter board
(5) Power supply section
(6) Main power transformer
(7) Stand by power transformer (ensures green mode standby)
(8) Front panel power supply board
(9) Display(on front panel)
(10) Balanced and single-ended outputs
(11) XLR/RCA connectors for the MM/MC voltage input. Only the XLR or the RCA can be connected to a cartridge at a time
(12) XLR/RCA connectors for the two MC current inputs. For each input (MC1 and MC2), only the XLR or the RCA can be connected to a cartridge at a time
(13) Control board (USB plug for firmware update and Ethernet RJ-45 plug for control from Android App)
(14) Single-channel phono stage board (one or two per unit)
(15) Backplane board
(16) Power supply regulation board
(17) User interface push-buttons

website: https://www.ch-precision.com/product/p1-dual-monaural-phono-stage/


So what's this going to achieve? A better reproduction of surface noise, clicks and pops? It can't put back all the components of the music that were excluded in the mastering process. Okay, so you can plug three pickups into it and there's a bunch of options you can select but why fluff about with all this archaic crap when you can listen to the cleanest version of almost anything via streaming.

Don't worry, the manufacturer has supplied the answer.........

"Thirty years ago few people predicted that, not only would we still be listening to records in the 21st Century, we would still be pressing them too. For many listeners, the vinyl record is more than just a viable source – it’s the pre-eminent source of recorded music."

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Ok, so that's part of the scam? If you don't send us your product you can't be in the Stereophile Recommended Components listing? :facepalm:
If you don't send me your product, I cannot hear/test it and, consequently, cannot recommend it. Also, we don't pay for the product because we send it back.
I only recommend product I get for free. No bias or conflicts at all.
Recommendations from product purchasers are all over the web. No bias there. :facepalm:
 
In many cases I think they are doing that.
Can you give one example outside of loudspeakers where this is the case? I haven't read anything except the measurements section in decades, but unless there's been a massive change there, no-one ever actually evaluated the sound, as opposed to telling stories about it. And they go out of their way to discredit the idea of doing actual sonic evaluation, which certainly brings their honesty into question.
 
If someone was going to produce a valuable guide for improving audio performance, price would be figured into the equation and it wouldn't be limited to product sent to the publisher for free. This guide has about as much value as a roll of Charmin.
Catering to those who can buy multi-million homes in terms of their item selections, TAS and Stereophile provide no value to those who will not mortgage their homes for any of the recommended items to build a “credible” system. Additionally, for those who could afford the recommendations there is no ability to elucidate, other than the steep prices, the benefits of one expensive piece of “jewelry” over another. Symptomatically, the loudspeaker recommendations for the group “A (Full Range)” lists only the name and prices to differentiate one recommended item from another. It only contributes to kill the audio hobby for anyone who has an interest.
 
This IS the jewelry industry, but for manly men who cannot knowingly accept that they are engaged in such. Selling high-cost audio gear as the jewelry that it is would be very difficult, but selling it based on pseudo science and word-salad engineering explanations is easy.
 
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Can you give one example outside of loudspeakers where this is the case? I haven't read anything except the measurements section in decades, but unless there's been a massive change there, no-one ever actually evaluated the sound, as opposed to telling stories about it. And they go out of their way to discredit the idea of doing actual sonic evaluation, which certainly brings their honesty into question.

I’m pretty much always thinking of loudspeakers when I write something like that. Those items within the realm of plausibility.

When it comes to things like amplifiers, I generally don’t pay attention to the claimed differences between solid state.

And I don’t have some vast range of experience with tube amplifiers to vet those reviews.

I can think of at least one review in Stereophile of the CJ amplifiers that I own which seems uncannily accurate to what I perceive. But of course I recognize this is just sighted evaluations, which don’t suffice as evidence.
 
Catering to those who can buy multi-million homes in terms of their item selections, TAS and Stereophile provide no value to those who will not mortgage their homes for any of the recommended items to build a “credible” system.

As someone who has found value in Stereophile reviews, I disagree. And I cannot buy $1 million homes, nor did I have to mortgage anything to buy my equipment.

Additionally, for those who could afford the recommendations there is no ability to elucidate, other than the steep prices, the benefits of one expensive piece of “jewelry” over another.

Again, I disagree. It’s easy to not find any value if you don’t want to find it, but it’s there for those who want to find it.

I bought my benchmark pre-amplifier partially based on Stereophile’s review, which showed bleeding edge, technical performance, and engineering competency. Same with my benchmark DAC reviewed in Stereophile.

And of course there’s measurements accompanying just about every one of their speaker reviews.

When you say, there’s no ability to elucidate between one expensive bit of gear and another, again it matters, whether you actually put an effort to do that or not.

I find Stereophile subjective descriptions of loudspeakers can be quite informative and helpful. For instance, Michael Freemer’s original review of the audio physic Virgo speaker lead me to seek out those speakers, and they sounded to me precisely as he described, and where incredibly rewarding in just the way he described. And that led me to having a number of audio physics speakers in my home, which I found immensely satisfying.

I could say the same for a number of other different loudspeakers, I’ve auditioned and owned.

I find that when I come across a reviewer, who is good at putting sound into words, and who seems interested in some of the sonic characteristics that I’m really looking for, and if they have any other reviews provided descriptions that match products, I know well, and/or seem to triangulate with what other audiophiles are describing, then I gain some confidence in that reviewers descriptions. And usually once I have a chance to hear a loudspeaker they have reviewed, I find the review captured some essential characteristics of the loudspeaker quite well.

Michael Freemer has absolutely nailed some of the sonic characteristics of speakers I owned. Herb Reichart has also elucidated exactly the type of differences I hear between loudspeaker brands I’ve owned.
(for instance he’s compared Joseph audio speakers to Harbeth speakers , and having owned both I find easier in on precisely the relevant differences I heard). Art Dudley picked up on characteristics of a certain loudspeaker brand that is disparaged here on their design and measurements. The type of Sonic characteristics Dudley described intrigued me - he was looking for the type of sonic character I was looking for.

And when I auditioned the loudspeaker several times, I was utterly blown away, and they became one of my favourites, displaying some of the characteristics Art Dudley had captured in his review. I almost bought the loudspeakers, but their form factor wouldn’t work for my room. I would never have been led to such enjoyable encounters with those loudspeakers via a place like ASR that would not be interested in such speakers, or would just dismiss them based on the design measurements.
(somebody here, looked at the measurements and said the speakers would “ sound like a kazoo” which was as far from how they actually sounded as could be)

So I have found my audiophile life quite enhanced by reading Stereophile and other audio magazines. So have a huge number of other audiophiles. It’s certainly true that there is also plenty of bs to navigate in that space, and that many audiophiles have also been misled into believing nonsense. But it’s not all bs IMO, and plenty of audiophiles have systems they find to be hugely satisfying based on looking at subjective reviews and reports. And not every audiophile falls for every bit of nonsense. I think the subjective review space can be navigated fairly successfully, you don’t have to be a dupe and believe absolutely everything (after all, there are a fair amount of contrasting opinions, even on this site to navigate), and I think a fair amount of audiophiles have navigated that space to achieve satisfying systems.

And many of those systems would never have shown up on ASR.
 
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If you don't send me your product, I cannot hear/test it and, consequently, cannot recommend it. Also, we don't pay for the product because we send it back.

Recommendations from product purchasers are all over the web. No bias there. :facepalm:
The first statement in Mr. Rubinson’s rebuttal clearly indicates that the recommended components are biased: the vendors choose to send a product. Mr. Rubinson and others fail to understand sampling bias introduced by the selection process; free of charge or not is a red herring and does not remove the bias. It is vendor advertising. This “vendor bias” is no better than the “product purchaser bias” that Mr. Rubinson derides in the second statement of his rebuttal.

“Recommended Components Fall 2024 Edition” is a deceitful title as it does not even represent a random selection in a universe of components or an unbiased sample.

:facepalm: indeed.
 
As someone who has found value in Stereophile reviews, I disagree. And I cannot buy $1 million homes, nor did I have to mortgage anything to buy my equipment.



Again, I disagree. It’s easy to not find any value if you don’t want to find it, but it’s there for those who want to find it.

I bought my benchmark pre-amplifier partially based on Stereophile’s review, which showed bleeding edge, technical performance, and engineering competency. Same with my benchmark DAC reviewed in Stereophile.

And of course there’s measurements accompanying just about every one of their speaker reviews.

When you say, there’s no ability to elucidate between one expensive bit of gear and another, again it matters, whether you actually put an effort to do that or not.

I find Stereophile subjective descriptions of loudspeakers can be quite informative and helpful. For instance, Michael Freemer’s original review of the audio physic Virgo speaker lead me to seek out those speakers, and they sounded to me precisely as he described, and where incredibly rewarding in just the way he described. And that led me to having a number of audio physics speakers in my home, which I found immensely satisfying.

I could say the same for a number of other different loudspeakers, I’ve auditioned and owned.

I find that when I come across a reviewer, who is good at putting sound into words, and who seems interested in some of the sonic characteristics that I’m really looking for, and if they have any other reviews provided descriptions that match products, I know well, and/or seem to triangulate with what other audiophiles are describing, then I gain some confidence in that reviewers descriptions. And usually once I have a chance to hear a loudspeaker they have reviewed, I find the review captured some essential characteristics of the loudspeaker quite well.

Michael Freemer has absolutely nailed some of the sonic characteristics of speakers I owned. Herb Reichart has also elucidated exactly the type of differences I hear between loudspeaker brands I’ve owned.
(for instance he’s compared Joseph audio speakers to Harbeth speakers , and having owned both I find easier in on precisely the relevant differences I heard). Art Dudley picked up on characteristics of a certain loudspeaker brand that is disparaged here on their design and measurements. The type of Sonic characteristics Dudley described intrigued me - he was looking for the type of sonic character I was looking for.

And when I auditioned the loudspeaker several times, I was utterly blown away, and they became one of my favourites, displaying some of the characteristics Art Dudley had captured in his review. I almost bought the loudspeakers, but their form factor wouldn’t work for my room. I would never have been led to such enjoyable encounters with those loudspeakers via a place like ASR that would not be interested in such speakers, or would just dismiss them based on the design measurements.
(somebody here, looked at the measurements and said the speakers would “ sound like a kazoo” which was as far from how they actually sounded as could be)

So I have found my audiophile life quite enhanced by reading Stereophile and other audio magazines. So have a huge number of other audiophiles. It’s certainly true that there is also plenty of bs to navigate in that space, and that many audiophiles have also been misled into believing nonsense. But it’s not all bs IMO, and plenty of audiophiles have systems they find to be hugely satisfying based on looking at subjective reviews and reports. And not every audiophile falls for every bit of nonsense. I think the subjective review space can be navigated fairly successfully, you don’t have to be a dupe and believe absolutely everything (after all, there are a fair amount of contrasting opinions, even on this site to navigate), and I think a fair amount of audiophiles have navigated that space to achieve satisfying systems.

And many of those systems would never have shown up on ASR.
I have searched for value in the reviews but generally I could not other than scanning the measurements. I am so happy for you that you did. ;)
 
The first statement in Mr. Rubinson’s rebuttal clearly indicates that the recommended components are biased: the vendors choose to send a product.

I find this a very strange commentary.

Of course, a review depends on being sent to the product. Most often products are requested by a publication. Occasionally, they aren’t sent. A publication is never going to sample every possible product. No matter what model you use.

Further, the recommended components are based on the assessment of reviewers. Hence on reviews. If you want to claim those reviews are strictly influenced by advertisement concerns or by what the manufacturer wants, then it would be on you to produce evidence for that rather than insinuation.

The fact that a manufacturer advertising in the magazine, despite some peoples’s intuitions, does not automatically equate to collusion.

Recommended Components Fall 2024 Edition” is a deceitful title as it does not even represent a random selection in a universe of components or an unbiased sample.

Do you realize that the ASR reviews of speakers, including the speaker review and measurement index, don’t represent an unbiassed sample of available gear? It represents entirely whatever gear a member was willing to send ASR. That scenario heavily biases or skews the selection you were going to see here . it’s not some unbiassed representative slice of the loudspeakers available. If there is some new loudspeaker burning up the audiophile world, which many people want to read about, there’s a pretty good chance it will be reviewed in a place like Stereophile, but very unlikely it will show up here.
 
The first statement in Mr. Rubinson’s rebuttal clearly indicates that the recommended components are biased: the vendors choose to send a product. Mr. Rubinson and others fail to understand sampling bias introduced by the selection process; free of charge or not is a red herring and does not remove the bias.
Sampling bias in selection is unavoidable and applies to every review source that I know of. I'd be curious to know if there is one.
“Recommended Components Fall 2024 Edition” is a deceitful title as it does not even represent a random selection in a universe of components or an unbiased sample.
Nope. It is not deceitful because it does not purport to include any product except those we have already reviewed.

I understand what you are asking for and would be happy if they could be implemented by anyone. I do not believe it is economically practical.
 
The first statement in Mr. Rubinson’s rebuttal clearly indicates that the recommended components are biased: the vendors choose to send a product. Mr. Rubinson and others fail to understand sampling bias introduced by the selection process; free of charge or not is a red herring and does not remove the bias. It is vendor advertising. This “vendor bias” is no better than the “product purchaser bias” that Mr. Rubinson derides in the second statement of his rebuttal.

“Recommended Components Fall 2024 Edition” is a deceitful title as it does not even represent a random selection in a universe of components or an unbiased sample.

:facepalm: indeed.

Unless you have 500 pages every month, it is kind of hard not to have sampling bias.
If you have to actually buy the hardware you review in those 500 pages, you better have a paying audience that is, at least a couple of magnitude larger than it is now.

How successful would a magazine be if it reviewed a truly random unbiased sample of components?

As it stands the magazine just samples the hyperplane of positive metaphors. Don't get me wrong here, the Stereophile recommended component lists has always been a source of entertainment. Most of their writers are at best a bit delusional, at worst just shills.

As far as Mr Rubinson is concerned, most of his reviews have been rational and fair. I can't remember a single time I thought he was delusional or peddling stuff. He reviewed, occasionally, outlandish stuff: in those circumstances he mostly used the Atkinson writing strategy. Atkinson almost always tells you what you need to know, in a slightly obfuscated way.
 
Which are totally irrelevant to the curation of the list.

I'm so pleased they (measurements) don't overwhelm the decision as to whether an item should be included. Otherwise I'd never have bought the speakers I purchased in 2002 to replace ones that doubtless measured better. Thanks to Robert Deutsch, the reviewer who described in meaningful terms exactly the type of sound he was hearing from these great speakers that were later awarded Stereophile's Speaker of the Year. It's sad that so few good reviews are now available to help us choose our gear. Most are by self-appointed "experts" on Youtube and not worth watching.
 
That compelled me to look.

Turns out I have 4 Stereophile recommended components:

Benchmark LA4 preamp
Joseph Audio Perspective 2 loudspeakers
Degritter UltraSonic record cleaner
Benchmark DAC2
(2014)

All Class A recommended! Whoo-hoo!
Oh my god I have one too. In class A.

I never thought I would see the day.
 
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