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Stereophile doubles down on the snake oil!

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Something something depth of soundstage, something sparkle, closer to the recording, name drop a well recorded album, sat there tapping my feet well into the night, something something addition to your system. Hit print and grab a beer.
Don't forget that it competes with and sometimes even surpasses device X at twice the cost, but of course doesn't quite reach the heights of device Y at ten times the cost.
 
The general issue with all those "professional" reviews is the personal qualifications and capability of reviewers. Are we to believe that the hearing of a guy in his mid-60s is still as good as his (supposedly perfect) hearing in his teens? Unless such reviewers present verifiable results of their current auditory exams, the whole thing boils down to nebulous "personal impressions" and equipment critique "based on experience" (as in, "I've been writing about this for decades, therefore I am an authority"). In other words, training and experience in critiquing music and its performance does not automatically extend to being an authority in evaluating audio reproduction equipment.
 
The general issue with all those "professional" reviews is the personal qualifications and capability of reviewers. Are we to believe that the hearing of a guy in his mid-60s is still as good as his (supposedly perfect) hearing in his teens? Unless such reviewers present verifiable results of their current auditory exams, the whole thing boils down to nebulous "personal impressions" and equipment critique "based on experience" (as in, "I've been writing about this for decades, therefore I am an authority"). In other words, training and experience in critiquing music and its performance does not automatically extend to being an authority in evaluating audio reproduction equipment.
Anyone who cares about hi-fi sound enough to carefully evaluate gear and who can communicate clearly is welcome to the arena as far as I’m concerned, and that includes professionals (without sarcastic scare quotes) or you or me in this forum. Knowledge, experience, taste, and of course the ability to accurately and honestly address objective measurements, and to understand and communicate aspects of technical performance are important qualifications.

I find it difficult not to get angry when the conversation about qualifications and authority shifts to bizarre demands for reviewers to produce medical records certifying hearing health, or offensive generalizations about older listeners and their decrepit auditory prowess, as if the nearly universal loss of the ability to hear some high frequencies later in life is a crippling handicap and a geriatric gotcha that disqualifies a person from experiencing and judging sound quality. Or from competently correlating and comparing that experience with what measurements are telling us.
 
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Anyone who cares about hi-fi sound enough to carefully evaluate gear and who can communicate clearly is welcome to the arena as far as I’m concerned, and that includes professionals (without sarcastic scare quotes) or you or me in this forum. Knowledge, experience, taste, and of course the ability to accurately and honestly address objective measurements, and to understand and communicate aspects of technical performance are important qualifications.

I find it difficult not to get angry when the conversation about qualifications and authority shifts to bizarre demands for reviewers to produce medical records certifying hearing health, or offensive generalizations about older listeners and their decrepit auditory prowess, as if the nearly universal loss of the ability to hear some high frequencies later in life is a crippling handicap and a geriatric gotcha that disqualifies a person from experiencing and judging sound quality. Or from competently correlating and comparing that experience with what measurements are telling us.
I’m not about to ask reviewers to provide audio grams, but testing my own abilities in regards to distortion and having a custom curve based on my hearing ability has made me far more aware of what, exactly, will impact my enjoyment.
 
Knowledge, experience, taste, and of course the ability to accurately and honestly
That last word disqualifies 98% of "reviewers" ( the scary quotes because there not reviewers there marketing shills for the manufacturers, ie snake oil salesmen). Show me 2 reviews where the writer says he did not here a difference even thou we know there was no difference.
 
I dont know why the manufacturers even ship the gear. These "reviewers" can make up the same lies by looking at a picture of the gear.
Reviewers also need to feel the heft because hi end gear needs to be substantially massive to be resolving.
 
Reviewers also need to feel the heft because hi end gear needs to be substantially massive to be resolving.
If they're too light, the electrons flowing through tend to jostle the components and create microphonic noise. This is also why expensive cables have to be so thick.

-Some audiophile, probably
 
The general issue with all those "professional" reviews is the personal qualifications and capability of reviewers. Are we to believe that the hearing of a guy in his mid-60s is still as good as his (supposedly perfect) hearing in his teens? Unless such reviewers present verifiable results of their current auditory exams, the whole thing boils down to nebulous "personal impressions" and equipment critique "based on experience" (as in, "I've been writing about this for decades, therefore I am an authority"). In other words, training and experience in critiquing music and its performance does not automatically extend to being an authority in evaluating audio reproduction equipment.

I’m not sure how old @Kal Rubinson is, but I’ve been able to listen to a number of speakers that he has reviewed, and I found he described those speakers accurately to what I heard (and also his impressions seemed generally pretty consonant with the Stereophile measurements).
 
I’m not sure how old @Kal Rubinson is, but I’ve been able to listen to a number of speakers that he has reviewed, and I found he described those speakers accurately to what I heard (and also his impressions seemed generally pretty consonant with the Stereophile measurements).
My my, don't you have a golden ear.
I'm so impressed.
 
Something something depth of soundstage, something sparkle, closer to the recording, name drop a well recorded album, sat there tapping my feet well into the night, something something addition to your system. Hit print and grab a beer.

You forgot:

"Even my wife could hear the difference from the kitchen [where reviewers' wives seem to spend most of their time]."
 
If they're too light, the electrons flowing through tend to jostle the components and create microphonic noise. This is also why expensive cables have to be so thick.

-Some audiophile, probably
Absolutely true story, met Dieter ( Trinity Audio) at Munich he was going to make a range of fine measuring yet relatively inexpensive electronic components, they duly arrived and worked well.
Shortly afterwards he sold some units to Audio Exotics in HK they told him the components were ‘too light and too cheap’ for their market.
Dieter designed ‘milled from solid’ cases and swapped the the electronics over ( the exact same boards that had been in the first reasonably priced iteration) price tripled .
I ended our relationship.
Keith
 
Given 2 expensive products at the same price the heavier one is always better.
No, if the price point is the same they will each have a different balance of strengths and weaknesses so you'll have to audition to see which one you personally prefer; but both will always represent excellent value for money regardless of how many zeros are on the price tag.

Cheaper units will always come 'surprisingly close' to their more expensive brethren, just failing at the extremes (those few extra inches of soundstage width, or the 'musical communication' not quite reaching the heights of the pricier reference).
 
Show me 2 reviews where the writer says he did not here a difference even thou we know there was no difference.
May I cite some of mine here?
 
I’m not about to ask reviewers to provide audio grams, but testing my own abilities in regards to distortion and having a custom curve based on my hearing ability has made me far more aware of what, exactly, will impact my enjoyment.
I, too, have taken the testing for distortion and found myself unable to detect differences with distortion levels much higher than most would suppose.

However, I can still detect very slight spectral tilts and the presence of timbre-modifying harmonic distortions. These are generally not present in the electronics of today (at least unless intentionally colored) but they are still present in transducers and in the vintage equipment that interests me.

But I can easily hear distortion with test tones to levels much lower than with music. The difference between the -60 dB distortion in one signal generator and the -96 dB distortion in another was subtle but easy to hear, when playing a 1 KHz sine wave. The distortion at -45 from yet another signal generator was not subtle in comparison. While it is true that the music of the tests I took masks harmonic distortions at those levels, I do expect those distortions to become audible in certain situations, even if rare.

And the distortion related to clipping, or the strategies taken by different equipment to manage clipping, is likewise audible enough to detect or evaluate with training and experience. Of course, in the presence of audible clipping, distortion levels rise quickly to levels easily detected. The experience helps to detect it on dynamic percussion or sharp musical attacks where the clipping occurs for only a brief period. I don't find many measurement-based reviews to cover that aspect of performance, and it is still not obvious as to whether one amplifier (or speaker) will play realistic dynamic music louder than another amplifier (or speaker) based on specifications or the reports in reviews, even Amir's reviews.

Another reason there is still room for expert reviewers, in my view, is that they have an opportunity to audition a wide range of equipment in listening environments where they have a lot of listening experience. Few of us have that opportunity, and there seems to me enough variability in the performance of parts of the system to give value to the comparisons.

And one more thing: Reviewers for magazines, if they are any good, review usability aspects that Amir, for example, specifically does not address beyond perhaps a sentence or two about terminal spacings on the rear panel and maybe the impression of the overall aesthetics. Nor does he provide much description of the features and how they are manipulated by the user, but I see those aspects in good professional reviews, too. Amir specifically avoids those precisely because, as he said it, they are already provided in the audio press. For me to want to buy something requires not only excellent measurements but also the right set of features and controls.

All that said, too many reviews suffer from English-Major Disease and look for flowery descriptions and obscure references instead of plain, clear writing. And--with connection back to the subject of this thread--too many reviewers think their role is to be the antidote for measurements, rather than to supplement measurements with aspects the measurements didn't evaluate.

Rick "no problem with opinions when expressed as such" Denney
 
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