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Stereo Set, which amp should I choose? Cambridge CXA81, Arcam A25+ or Cambridge EXA1000

I have one of those. Good amp section and a more capable power supply than most integrated amps, particularly just for 2ch use. Benched 2ch 8 ohms 186.7 wpc at .1% thd, 210.9 wpc at 1% thd, and into 4 ohm 238.9 wpc at .1% thd, 277.3 wpc at 1% thd....and its 5 and 7 ch ratings are quite good, indicating a much larger power supply than almost all 2 ch integrated amps....
That’s good to hear! To be honest I didn’t know that this receiver was powerful enough, however, we get back in the sound stage and refined sound, probably integrated amps have a better performance or am I wrong?
 
Why you choose LS50? Give me some insights, pros against the others speakers I’ve listed.

The integrated you mention, it’s way up to my budget! My budget for an amp integrated is around $1500-1800 max.
The 602 series 1 had a rather ripe, 'grand,' full-bodied tonal balance ideal for free space and smaller AV systems. The series 2 version had biting high frequencies that could take fillings out and strip paint at the same time - horrible things! The V3 was the same I seem to recall. This kind of biting 'treble' is NOT more detail, but actually a deliberate design flaw and choice to attract sales it seems and most B&Ws of recant years seem to do this it appears.

The LS 50 Meta seems a very well balanced smaller speaker and is widely available I believe internationally. It seems to need a sub or two to augment the very lowest octave but can sound very good I discovered if blended properly (our local record shop has a set with unknown subwoofer).

I do appreciate the 602s are pushing thirty years old now (mid 90s introduced?), but that doesn't have to condemn them you know ;) I know I know, maybe a change for the sake of a change. I'm so far out of things now, I can't really recommend good used not too old alternatives under a grand ($ and £) for a setup such as yours...
 
I don’t think it’s irrelevant, because the amps that I’ve listed have different signatures and will impact the speakers (each brand also has your signature).

I’m pretty happy with my actual sub!

And a bigger speakers, which you’d recommend?
If you go for any amp with inherent colouration, or a dependency on speaker load, then of course amps will vary in their sound. These would not be my choice.
If however, you go for a class D like Hypex or Purifi or even some of the better but pricier AB designs, you will find in blind test that it's all down to the room and speakers, by far.

As for speakers, I never make model recommendations - it's too subjective and depends on the room, the positional setup and so on. I have a preference for standmounts, accompanied by a pair of subs, but I will admit it takes a long time to manually blend the two together without built-in room correction. Which is a feature in your system you may consider, depending on budget.

No offence intended, but have you kinda decided what to buy already, but are looking for validation on here?
 
The 602 series 1 had a rather ripe, 'grand,' full-bodied tonal balance ideal for free space and smaller AV systems. The series 2 version had biting high frequencies that could take fillings out and strip paint at the same time - horrible things! The V3 was the same I seem to recall. This kind of biting 'treble' is NOT more detail, but actually a deliberate design flaw and choice to attract sales it seems and most B&Ws of recant years seem to do this it appears.

The LS 50 Meta seems a very well balanced smaller speaker and is widely available I believe internationally. It seems to need a sub or two to augment the very lowest octave but can sound very good I discovered if blended properly (our local record shop has a set with unknown subwoofer).

I do appreciate the 602s are pushing thirty years old now (mid 90s introduced?), but that doesn't have to condemn them you know ;) I know I know, maybe a change for the sake of a change. I'm so far out of things now, I can't really recommend good used not too old alternatives under a grand ($ and £) for a setup such as yours...
Thank you for this awesome insight!

How about the MA 100’s, anything to say?
 
If you go for any amp with inherent colouration, or a dependency on speaker load, then of course amps will vary in their sound. These would not be my choice.
If however, you go for a class D like Hypex or Purifi or even some of the better but pricier AB designs, you will find in blind test that it's all down to the room and speakers, by far.

As for speakers, I never make model recommendations - it's too subjective and depends on the room, the positional setup and so on. I have a preference for standmounts, accompanied by a pair of subs, but I will admit it takes a long time to manually blend the two together without built-in room correction. Which is a feature in your system you may consider, depending on budget.

No offence intended, but have you kinda decided what to buy already, but are looking for validation on here?
About the room correction, the Audyssey isn’t a good feature? I’ve used in my bedroom!

To be honest, I was in doubt about which speakers and integrated speakers to buy! That's why I came here, not for validation, but to open my mind more and see if my considerations made sense because of the many reviews I read on the internet.

No offense taken ;)
 
People are generally interested in helping!

But you have started off with saying it needs to be an integrated amp and naming a couple of speakers. Do you need streaming too? Would separates do? Your budget offers a lot of permutations.
 
People are generally interested in helping!

But you have started off with saying it needs to be an integrated amp and naming a couple of speakers. Do you need streaming too? Would separates do? Your budget offers a lot of permutations.
As I said, everything I've discussed is based on reviews and theories. I've never heard these speakers personally, much less the integrated amplifiers I mentioned. However, tomorrow I'll go to a B&W dealership to listen to the 606 S3 speakers that are in their showroom. And I also said that I'm open to suggestions for both speakers and amplifiers.

About the streaming that's depends if I choose a dedicated amplifier or amplfier integrated.
 
As I said, everything I've discussed is based on reviews and theories. I've never heard these speakers personally, much less the integrated amplifiers I mentioned. However, tomorrow I'll go to a B&W dealership to listen to the 606 S3 speakers that are in their showroom. And I also said that I'm open to suggestions for both speakers and amplifiers.

About the streaming that's depends if I choose a dedicated amplifier or amplfier integrated.
Try to hear as many speakers as you can, but note they will not sound the same in your room, compared with the shop. In the shop, try to use a Hypex or Purifi amp when listening to the speakers - why? It's because these designs are usually better at not being coloured or affected by the peculiarities of the speakers (i.e. "load independent"). If not available, try a good Topping or Benchmark, and failing that, maybe a chip-based class-D (Wiim etc)


I did not take note of where your music will be coming from - i.e CD, vinyl, media server, streamer etc....
As for amps, you could get an integrated amp that also includes streaming and a DAC if you want in your budget - note that "integrated" used to just mean a pre-amp and power amp in one box, but maybe that has changed. Or buy a DAC later (if not in your chosen amp), or a separate DAC/Streamer (people on ASR like Wiims, Eversolos etc).
 
Try to hear as many speakers as you can, but note they will not sound the same in your room, compared with the shop. In the shop, try to use a Hypex or Purifi amp when listening to the speakers - why? It's because these designs are usually better at not being coloured or affected by the peculiarities of the speakers (i.e. "load independent"). If not available, try a good Topping or Benchmark, and failing that, maybe a chip-based class-D (Wiim etc)


I did not take note of where your music will be coming from - i.e CD, vinyl, media server, streamer etc....
As for amps, you could get an integrated amp that also includes streaming and a DAC if you want in your budget - note that "integrated" used to just mean a pre-amp and power amp in one box, but maybe that has changed. Or buy a DAC later (if not in your chosen amp), or a separate DAC/Streamer (people on ASR like Wiims, Eversolos etc).
I'm pretty sure they won't sound the same in my bedroom (could be a good or bad thing). I don't think they you have a Hypex or Purifi in the showroom, probably will be a class-AB amplifier.

I'll check again some class-D amps.

Today I use Tidal as a streamer (via Chromecast), unfortunatelly the Chormecast limit to 16bit/48KHz, that's the reason I've consider choose an amplifier integrated.

My uncle borrow me the Eversolo A6 and I was very impressed, the sound changed from water to wine. Wide sound stage and much more refined.

Today, in my opinion, the weaker link of my set its the speakers (too old, lack of refine).
 
I did not take note of where your music will be coming from - i.e CD, vinyl, media server, streamer etc....
As for amps, you could get an integrated amp that also includes streaming and a DAC if you want in your budget - note that "integrated" used to just mean a pre-amp and power amp in one box, but maybe that has changed. Or buy a DAC later (if not in your chosen amp), or a separate DAC/Streamer (people on ASR like Wiims, Eversolos etc).

I meant to add that unless you are short of space, or have a partner concerned with aesthetics, separates are not a bad way to go, because you can upgrade a piece at a time to get best value or new features as time goes on.

I bought a Cambridge Audio Evo 75 (when they first came out) because my plan for a RasPi-stremer-DAC + Hypex-based Nord was rejected as being "messy" by my wife. It's what they called an "all-in-one", and I have to say it sounds good, looks good (especially to my wife) has been reliable, and was well-supported for 5 years by CA, so no complaints, but obviously, any upgrade will be a total change....

I bet it has been mentioned, but Wiim do some good streamer/amps, "all-in-ones", well-featured and good value.
 
I meant to add that unless you are short of space, or have a partner concerned with aesthetics, separates are not a bad way to go, because you can upgrade a piece at a time to get best value or new features as time goes on.

I bought a Cambridge Audio Evo 75 (when they first came out) because my plan for a RasPi-stremer-DAC + Hypex-based Nord was rejected as being "messy" by my wife. It's what they called an "all-in-one", and I have to say it sounds good, looks good (especially to my wife) has been reliable, and was well-supported for 5 years by CA, so no complaints, but obviously, any upgrade will be a total change....

I bet it has been mentioned, but Wiim do some good streamer/amps, "all-in-ones", well-featured and good value.
My order of priority would be:

1st - Change the speakers
2nd - Add an amplifier integrated (has DAC included) or dedicate amplifier, based in the speakers that I've chosen.
3rd (optional) - Add a DAC, could be a Eversolo A6 or similar.
 
Good luck!
My last word - prioritize getting the best speakers you can.
 
Thank you for this awesome insight!

How about the MA 100’s, anything to say?
Not really as I was out of it by then. The few smaller metal cone models I heard didn't appeal, as they all seemed to have an 'ccchhh' (as in Scottish 'loch') kind of sound to them, but there have been several generations since then and a lot can change in fairness.
 
Good luck!
My last word - prioritize getting the best speakers you can.
That's the most "difficulty" thing to do.

Speakers taste are subjective, very much personal. For me speakers "X" could sound amazing, for you could sound not so bad or vice-versa.

I don't like very much of "hot" highs (B&W signature), probably, I've get used to it, since I've being listening B&W for 30 years. Also, I've felt a lack of "punch" bass. That's my experience with 602 S1.

However, the 606 S3 is widely known for being analytical, open, and full of energy, with a strong emphasis on high-resolution treble and clarity of detail. It's famous for focusing on a lively, revealing, and dynamic sound. I've never heard them before, tomorrow will be the first time.

I do like strong bass and not too brightness in highs, therefore, without sacrificing detail and refinement. That's why I´ve suggested the Monitor Audio Silver 100 7G. Also I've never heard them before.

About the KEF LS50, I see they placed in the middle of both (606 S3 and Silver 100), the most balanced speakers. Or I am wrong?
 
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