No. I don't understand for sure what I thought I was hearing with the Revel M16 that bothered me. It could be that they just rolled off a little too fast. Could be the positioning in the room, and the nature of the room's acoustics They actually sounded good, but somehow made the room feel over damped, while the Sonys didn't. I experimented with various acoustic treatments and found that it was easy to make the room sound overdamped if I put anything absorptive on the walls near the speakers in my first room arrangement on the short wall, even with the Sonys. The delayed first reflection panel setup was a big winner however, although that was not an easy arrangement to live with, so it had to be taken down frequently. The Dayton waveguides with the JBL 2426h compression drivers and the 10" Faital Pro mids on the open baffle sounds great to me, and of course it can play a lot louder without strain. After experimenting with setting the crossover all over the place I've settled on 1100Hz now, which puts me back into orthodox territory. The off-axis looks really good there, and overall I found that is to my preference, even though the wacky 3500Hz setpoint does some nice things on some recordings. Maybe I should try it again now that I've got the side stereo channels added.
The Weiss looks like a nice unit. Maybe not overpriced, but out of my price range. That was an interesting read. I noticed he mentioned the behind the head effects, which is something I noticed on some electronic music when applying recursive XTC to my array.
Wow! That DIY speaker is like $2000 with all those quality drivers!?
I already had two of the tweeters and I knew from previous experience that I liked the Dayton waveguides, which are copies of JBL waveguides. I knew they were intended to be used with a matching midwoofer so I thought I'd give it a try. If I went with a dome tweeter I'd need to use a waveguide there too, or switch to a much smaller midrange, maybe a 3" or 4" diameter. I've built speakers like that before and really liked them. I chose 10" woofers but probably should have went with 12". Actually it probably doesn't matter much, but I see JBL matched these waveguides up with 12s. I'd been watching eBay for a 3rd 2426h in good condition at a decent price. I finally found one, still new in box, for a lot less than I originally paid for the other two. It works great and I'm really enjoying it.
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For some reason I thought you had 5. 600Hz and below on the far outside, 600 to 5000 for the inverse pair, the the full range summed. I guess that’s back with the Sony’s.
All three speakers in the center array run 220 to 20,000. The 10" woofers do 220 to 1100Hz, the tweeters 1100Hz and up. I've found it's best to keep them all the same. I've tried a lot of things, including changing the volume of the center compared to the sides, and EQing the sides different than the center. I think it's fundamentally more correct to run them all the same. That's what my ears are telling me.
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I placed them about 45 degrees off axis because I had a convenient place to put them. I read somewhere it should be 60 degrees off axis and elevated for optimal envelopement. I'm no longer doing that, although it was good for providing some stereo effect for poor souls stuck listening to my system off axis.
Does a 45-degree angle stimulate you well?
Yes. That's what I know. That elusive spot between roughly 45 and 60 degrees.
Yes, it did some nice things. I liked it for a while but the way I did it wasn't adequate. I may reexplore that again later. I started adjusting the main speakers to make up for tonal anomalies I thought I was hearing due to the side speakers and eventually it just all went off the rails and sounded not so pleasing.
Does a 45-degree angle stimulate you well?
Yes. That's what I know. That elusive spot between roughly 45 and 60 degrees.
Thanks for very kind and quick reply.
Thanks for advice. I am also experiencing this by practicing what you say myself. It definitely seems to be most active when I crosstalk cancel something that is almost front and center(Almost Mono placed).
