Star Trek: Starfleet Academy

[Marc v E]

I'm showing my age, but I have to admit, I've just lost interest in the eternal regurgitation of the Star Trek and Star Wars universes. Ditto Marvel and any superheros. I've had enough for a lifetime.

I was on the set in 1968, lobbied NBC for series continuation in 1969, went to one of the first ST conventions in 1973 where I purchased tribbles from David Gerrold's booth. And cheered on The Next Generation and enjoyed the first series of movies. Even enjoyed the first Bad Robot ST reboot in 2009. But after that it just seems...endless.

Same here

 

[Joe Smith]

I mean, it's fine that these things get fresh blood/content for a new generation of fans. I don't begrudge them the new stuff. It's just that I personally have had enough. I was happy that Lucas got to complete the entire original x3 trilogies, but for those of us of a certain age, Episodes 4-5-6 are the heart's core.

Great characters and ideas get reworked over and over. Alice in Wonderland. Sherlock Holmes. The ever-expanding Harry Potter universe. It's human nature.

But it's also OK for any person to say, ehh...I think I'm done with that...and go on to something else.

I did think the idea behind Academy was a good one, to jump forward, change up the time period in a big way.

 

[Andreas007]

I find this show extremely boring. Nothing happens except childish storytelling with no relevance.
The actors are mediocre to poor, and the characters behave like teenagers from our time.
Their habits and expressions correspond to our time, and progressive thinking is not integrated into the narrative but seems artificial and inauthentic.
I don't think we'll ever see an episode that makes you reflect on your worldview after watching it, or think that you've seen something that has made you smarter or given you insight. It's a shame and lost opportunity.

If you'd like to read calm reviews that aren't just bashing, I recommend Bernd Schneider's website: Ex Astris Scientia

 

[Jimshoe]

I think it is utter crap.

Here is some proper Star Trek:

Horrendous accents and plot explanation via improbable dialogue. I could only take a few minutes . . . its a hard no from me.

I think critical thresholds are dropping

 

[Chr1]

Have to say that I feel like I outgrew StarTrek/Wars about 25 years ago.

My recent personal sci-fi recommendation is "Love, Death and Robots" on Netflix.
An assortment of animated shorts, of various styles, so easy to dip into.
Some quite fun(ny), others pretty grim.
Worth a watch imo.

 

[Sal1950]

But it's also OK for any person to say, ehh...I think I'm done with that...and go on to something else.

Have to say that I feel like I outgrew StarTrek/Wars about 25 years ago.

Sure that's a perfectly fine opinion.
Just don't slam a new production simply cause your tired of watching them.
Ignor them and this thread.

Horrendous accents and plot explanation via improbable dialogue. I could only take a few minutes . . .

Accents? Oh yea, your from the UK. LOL

I've found most of the Academy episodes just good fun entertainment. I've looked forward to each week.
Where as I was totally bored with 4 or 5 episodes of Andor, a waste of my hour, and I just hoped it might improve. Never did.

 

[Joe Smith]

Horrendous accents and plot explanation via improbable dialogue. I could only take a few minutes . . . its a hard no from me.

I think critical thresholds are dropping

I watched the cold open of this, years ago I'd watched a few of these ones - that NY state set is truly impressive. I was struck by how well the character - dialogue match mimics TOS, also the editing/camera angles and pacing. The casting physical appearance is good, for sure. But the acting is, well, just "functional"...makes you aware of how good Shatner, Nimoy, Doohan et al were. And I say that with love, as a fellow actor. These guys are working it, but it just doesn't quite get there.

 

[monkeyboy]

horrible...ruined by being woke...like much of everything else...

 

[Sal1950]

horrible...ruined by being woke...

It was a bit much, isn't about everything today, at least it is to me.
I'm sure there were many casting a like opinion about OG in 1966.

 

[Puddingbuks]

Starfleet academy is terrible. Woke messaging over quality.

ST is an army. Why are there fat people? Because of the message. Someone in a wheelchair. A wheelchair, hundreds of years in the future? Because of the message.

Oh look at me, I’m a captain who want to sit in absurd ways, just because I can. A captain with a speech problem.

Those people from that divided planet who went extinct - guess what, they are back. Now with even their hair split black and white. The writers of this show do not give a damn about the whole story. Sad to watch.

 

[Sal1950]

Sad to watch.

Easy don't You know what they say about opinions. LOL

I can' wait for the crowds to die down and go see The BRIDE Bride of Frankenstein re-imagined.
A love that defies death:
I bet many here will hate that too.
Maybe I will too, I promise to do a full review.

 

[JeffS7444]

Star Trek was always "woke": It's an essential park of what makes ST ST. On the positive side, the ST universe is one in which the future (mostly) is as cool as we hoped it would be. But by setting it in a distant future, it's a way to discuss contemporary issues in the guise of entertainment. But I've felt that the various spinoffs have tended to be soap opera-ish.

 

[jbattman1016]

I'm showing my age, but I have to admit, I've just lost interest in the eternal regurgitation of the Star Trek and Star Wars universes. Ditto Marvel and any superheros. I've had enough for a lifetime.

I was on the set in 1968, lobbied NBC for series continuation in 1969, went to one of the first ST conventions in 1973 where I purchased tribbles from David Gerrold's booth. And cheered on The Next Generation and enjoyed the first series of movies. Even enjoyed the first Bad Robot ST reboot in 2009. But after that it just seems...endless.

We definitely need a few for spider man reboots.

I like the show and do consider it a bit detached from what star trek was (pre disco) but the seasons and doesn't ruin any of the prior shows for me. I also like to see new characters and actors trying to join the star trek universe.

My biggest gripe with the new shows is that they are really not child appropriate. I get it that TOS wasn't really either at times, but TNG, DS9, and VOY are pretty tame.

As for the latest episode of Academy (300th day) great story.

That wedding was is the low point for me as is completely skipable.

 

[jbattman1016]

Just got back from camping, so have not seen this weeks episode. So far, mostly positive without the "weirdness" of later Discovery seasons. Holly Hunter cracks me up as does Paul Giamatti.

I need more Paul Giamatti in this show.

 

[Geert]

I'm surprised with all our Trekkie's here no one has yet started a dedicate thread for the latest Starfleet Academy ?

I’d rather listen to Weird Al" Yankovic covering Thriller.

 

[JPA]

I thought I was the only one feeling that way....

No, you are not. Enough with the rehashes already.

 

[Extreme_Boky]

I do not necessarily mind new spins and angles. I am in my 6th decade, and I am okay with whatever angles/spins/gender the TV wants to promote. I love SciFi, so I can tolerate a lot just to see at least some story and nice special effects.

What I can't stomach is the spoken English by the main actress... It's like a seriously distorted audio signal - waaay into clipping - very unpleasant to listen to.

 

[Keith_W]

When Gene Roddenderry made his first pitch for Star Trek, studio executives rejected it because it was "too cerebral". And indeed it was, it asked questions about morality, how to deal with other civilizations, people who have different cultural values to us. It was indeed science fiction. Science fiction is not just having "futuristic stuff" in your story, it's about asking questions about the impact of technology. In this way, Blade Runner was science fiction. Yes, it had drama, explosions, and lots of running. But it also asked questions about the nature of humanity, and the morality of treating replicants as subhuman. It showed that if we lose our humanity, the future would be grim.

The rot started with the Star Trek reboot. They tried to turn it into an action flick. A lot of running, a lot of explosions, a lot of action. Star Trek was NEVER an action flick! And then STD and now Academy is trying to turn it into a vehicle of political messaging. About the only thing the current series has in common with TOS / TNG / VOY / DS9 is the name "Star Trek". It's not science fiction, and the writers don't seem to understand that. It is a shallow teenage flick.

 

[2tec]

There's certainly special effects, good acting and great settings, it's too bad the writing is so bad. So many great sci-fi stories they could adapt and retell but no, we get rich people writing crap they pretend is creative. None of the people in charge has any really talent, this is all just over-produced, recycled classist claptrap. It's insipid and uninspired. The upper class corrupted copyright law and took over our culture and is now just using it to placate us, manipulate us and exploit from us. It's sad we see that movies from seventy years ago are far more entertaining and creative than any of the violent spectacles we see produced these days. Popular culture is commercialized and devoid of any real merit. This is how the arts are in every declining civilization, decandent and immoral.

 

[Sal1950]

I need more Paul Giamatti in this show.

Agreed, his portrayal of Nus Braka in Episode 6 sets him up to be one of ST best villans since Ricardo and Khan, his acting in that episode was first great!.
The future for him in Academy looks bright.

The rot started with the Star Trek reboot. They tried to turn it into an action flick. A lot of running, a lot of explosions, a lot of action. Star Trek was NEVER an action flick!

So The Wrath of Khan wasn't a "action flick"

What I can't stomach is the spoken English by the main actress...

It's a speech impediment, Holly Hunter has a distinct, often described as
lisping or husky, vocal style resulting from profound hearing loss in her left ear, caused by childhood mumps.