pmc : I don’t know if the sound is good but they are imposing.
I wonder if after GLM that sounds almost identical to the 8350 with more SPL?Genelec 8030C + Genelec 7040A
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pmc : I don’t know if the sound is good but they are imposing.
I wonder if after GLM that sounds almost identical to the 8350 with more SPL?
These are just "Classic" models. GLM is not compatible with these. Room correction is via dip switches and dual subs evening out room modes.
Do you use any correction for subs?
Thanks! I guess the cross over is then handled in your subs, correct? From what I see, the signal is notebook -> subs -> monitors. correct?No, I don't. Just plug and play, and I don't fret too much over it since it sounds very good as is.
Thanks! I guess the cross over is then handled in your subs, correct? From what I see, the signal is notebook -> subs -> monitors. correct?
The add on sub here is just a second transmission line cabinet as the main MB2 speaker but without the mid and tweeter making it a MB3What model is that? Is there a driver on the back or just the one?
Yes, the crossover is in the Genelec subs (85 Hz). Source is Mac > Apple USB C dongle (£8) > 3.5mm to stereo XLR's > TC Electronic Level Pilot > Genelec 7040's > Genelec 8030's. A three-way system that goes down to 30 Hz (-6dB). All for less than £1600 excluding the computer.
https://www.genelec.com/7040a
https://www.genelec.com/8030c
Unfortunately, cardioide dispersion does not help you much in the room's resonating area. Standing waves will build up energy while bouncing around and will ignore the dispersion characteristics because there's no longer any controlled directivity to stop it once the initial wave hits the walls and reflects. In the resonating area the steady-state response is the best metric to use as a visual aid to see what we hear, and in the same steady-state response even Kii and the like will suffer from the same room-behavior as other speakers. Here's a few examples with the Kii;
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https://www.stereophile.com/content/kii-audio-three-loudspeaker-measurements
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https://www.gearslutz.com/board/high-end/1048540-kii-three-have-you-heard-them-23.html#post12588247
I have a ton of measurements demonstrating the same thing in my own room with Kii and other speakers. Differences can of course be seen, but they are completely dwarfed by the evilness of the room and could mostly be explained by small differences in placements.
Above about 200 hz the effects will begin to show.
Don't take this as criticism of Kii or any other cardioide speakers because it isn't.
My room. really needs flexible placement of low frequency emitters.
I really like the idea of the W371, and I plan to order a couple someday to go under my 8351s. I don't consider the W371 as a "stand subwoofer", though. I suppose you could call it that, but "stand subwoofer" is somewhat of an oxymoron in my eyes .
A true subwoofer(in my view), should only be playing sub 100Hz content, so that way it can be moved around the room independently to generate the most accurate response, without the fear of it being localized. The W371 performs well much higher in the frequency range than typical subwoofers, but to use that capability, you have to co-locate it with the front speakers.
Also the W371A only extends (-6) to 23Hz, and I generally look for (-3)16-18Hz extension. Very little music has sub 20Hz content, but it does exist, and it's an awesome feeling to listen to at high volumes.
I view the W371 essentially as a way to turn your Genelec stand mount speakers into Genelec tower speakers. Instead of selling a Revel Gem2 and Revel Salon2 in the same speaker line, Genelec just sells a Gem2, with the option of converting it into a Salon2 as a separate charge.
Whenever I do purchase the W371s, I'll treat the 8351 + W371 as a single speaker, and still cross it over to real subwoofers below 80Hz or so.