Stable software XO

[3ll3d00d]

Sure interface can be improved but I don't see that as progress in the right direction. A player or media center ain't measurements software, I don't mind entering Q 0.71 for Butterwort or calculating and referring to table for bessel filter.

The point you are missing is the software that requires manual data entry of a potentially large number of values is software in which it is easy to make a mistake and which can take an awfully long time to even enter the data which then can discourage experimentation because it takes so long.

see that only as a resource hog and wouldn't like it to become part of JRiver ever nor seeing it rise in hardware requirements to Roon level so that someone like you could say UI is nicer.

It's a silly argument, making a UI more useable does not equate to a rise in hardware requirements.

Anyway this horse is beaten to death. OP asked for opinions about jriver for this use case and can judge for themselves whether usability is important and/or how complex their needs are.

 

[3ll3d00d]

One thing worth noting in this context is that mc34 will support importing filters in eapo text format (which is itself supported by various tools Inc rew) hence making use of other external tools for filter design a little easier.

 

[Angaria]

Appreciate hearing all the options you've tried and your experience - saves me much grief going forward.

 

[levimax]

Another software option, which I don't see mentioned much is DePhonica. It is old and no longer supported but it works fine on Windows 11. Compared to the other options it is powerful and flexible and very easy to use. The GUI is old school and weird but light years ahead of the other options. For a free download it is worth a look. I use it day in and day out without issue.

 

[john61ct]

Another software option, which I don't see mentioned much is DePhonica

Limited to 8 channels?

If a given "stack" of (say 4x for F-LR) boxen emulating a floorstander, can be addressed as a single upstream channel

crossovers within the stack need to be handled elsewhere?

and MSO is handling the mono trueSubs group...

Would that faffing around allow for testing DePhonica

or are there better workarounds?

 

[levimax]

Limited to 8 channels?

If a given "stack" of (say 4x for F-LR) boxen emulating a floorstander, can be addressed as a single upstream channel

crossovers within the stack need to be handled elsewhere?

and MSO is handling the mono trueSubs group...

Would that faffing around allow for testing DePhonica

or are there better workarounds?

I am not 100% sure your questions. Defonica is limited to 8 channels so it could handle 4 L&R boxes with up to 3 crossovers and any number of filters and delays and PEQs for for each of the 8 channels using IIR or Linearized IIR or FIR and it presents itself an an ASIO sink driver with L&R input to the operating system. I am not sure how that would interact with other MSO programs but it is probably possible. ASIO tends to be more cooperative than windows and you can use a "Matrix" programs to combine devices together to be presented as one device to the OS and many people do this. I have had limited success so just got an interface with enough outputs for my needs.

I think the up to date and supported software/ hardware combination of choice to do both crossovers and room correction is Reaper and a multi-channel interface. Reaper supports VST plug-ins and can do pretty much any dsp you can think of and it is free. There is going to be a steep learning curve but between AI and Google it is possible.

 

[john61ct]

Those 4ch L/R stacks are just an example, small fraction of the total endpoint channels.

Windows is a last resort path for me, I was just thinking your recommendation for DePhonica might make it worth exploring

if there is a good workaround for overcoming that 8ch limitation.

 

[levimax]

if there is a good workaround for overcoming that 8ch limitation.

No. For your purposes I would look at Reaper. They have a windows, mac, and linux version, and the only limits are how many hardware channels you have.